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| Theory of modeling; What type of modeler are you? | |
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| stimpy | Sep 29 2016, 11:51 PM Post #31 |
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Is It Safe?..... Nope
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INTERESTING SUBJECT, yet I cannot put into words my theory, however an example this month, the Brengun yak-1 kit. Described as best in its class yet it is missing most of the cockpit details, I know because I checked references to 1/48 scale kits. It's an 'easy ' build compared to other manufacturers, due again to online research. I didn't like the boring kits decal options so looked for alternatives. I found some from AML yet their profile shows the a/c with an antenna; none of the Brengun options have the antenna, yet most online builds of the a/c in question have been built with an antenna.... some more research and I find some actual photos of the aircraft that clearly show there is no antenna..... Research is important even if it's to confirm some simple facts. So yes, I do not take what the kit states as Gods' given accuracy. |
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| jbank | Sep 30 2016, 04:11 AM Post #32 |
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I don't know where to place me. I like building. I like adding details. I like to paint. I like to decal. I like to weather. Mostly I like to problem solve. I don't much care about the finished model. Shape is important to except when it's not. I'm more about improving or developing technique. I'm willing to try about anything and I try to try something new with each kit. I've completed 13 models so far this year, but haven't posted all here. Some are not to our scale, some are off topic (like the 72nd Gundam I built with my granddaughter), and some are magazine builds. I expect to finish another 5 more before the end of the year. I build because I have to. It keeps me sane (arguably.) |
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| dknights | Sep 30 2016, 12:39 PM Post #33 |
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The court of LAST RESORT!
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I think this is an important aspect to the hobby. I try to do something new or different with each model, and my only goal is that each model be better than the last one. |
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David M. Knights Fortes fortuna adiuvat 14 Finished: Special Armor V-2, Airfix P-51 15 Finished: SBS Gladiator engine 16 Finished: Brengun C2 Wasserfall, Merit SS-N-2 Styx, World's smallest diorama, Airfix Hurricane. 17 Finished: Japanese Carrier Deck, 18 Finished: NONE The bench:Platz T-33, Trump. T-34/85, Meng F-106, Airfix P-51 #2, Airfix P-40 Revell MiG-21F-13, Ace Citroen V-11 | |
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| RexTN | Sep 30 2016, 03:10 PM Post #34 |
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Accidental CAG
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I'm on the opposite end of that one, David. I try to just build models, without having to learn something in the construction process every time I build a model. I spend my "learning time" on the actual aircraft information. The only reason I still build models is because I already know how to do it. I treat it just like driving, I know how, so I just do it. |
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yep, one of each USN squadron http://hangardeckview.blogspot.com/ http://z15.invisionfree.com/Hangar_Deck_Re...dex.php?act=idx | |
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| dknights | Sep 30 2016, 03:38 PM Post #35 |
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The court of LAST RESORT!
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That is interesting Rex. I'm not sure I've encountered a modeler with that outlook before. |
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David M. Knights Fortes fortuna adiuvat 14 Finished: Special Armor V-2, Airfix P-51 15 Finished: SBS Gladiator engine 16 Finished: Brengun C2 Wasserfall, Merit SS-N-2 Styx, World's smallest diorama, Airfix Hurricane. 17 Finished: Japanese Carrier Deck, 18 Finished: NONE The bench:Platz T-33, Trump. T-34/85, Meng F-106, Airfix P-51 #2, Airfix P-40 Revell MiG-21F-13, Ace Citroen V-11 | |
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| RexTN | Sep 30 2016, 04:33 PM Post #36 |
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Accidental CAG
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I am sure it is rare today. And if anyone else does it this way, they are either fairly new, or fairly old. I think of modeling techniques as a tool box, just like I have for 1/1 cars. If I want to do something, I just reach in and grab an old trusty tool, and use it. I don't have a need for 12 different 1/2" wrenches, I just need to have two in each tool box. I think we talked about this before, maybe in Louisville? I want the difference in the parts, the markings, or the load to be the focus. Not "enameled this, Lacquered that one, Acryliced that one, weathered this way, that way, or the other way." I did get dragged kicking and screaming into using Aqueous Acrylics a while back,,,,,,,but, that was out of necessity, not because I wanted to. Now, for those, I have a system that works,,,,,so, I will do that for the next 10-20 years, as long as the products I've chosen stay on the market. If one of those things goes out of business, I will find a new one, and stick with it for as long as I can. |
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yep, one of each USN squadron http://hangardeckview.blogspot.com/ http://z15.invisionfree.com/Hangar_Deck_Re...dex.php?act=idx | |
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| Joe Hegedus | Oct 1 2016, 12:28 AM Post #37 |
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Well, Rex, I haven't completely decided yet, but I'll problaby end up using more than one technique. Most likely it will be some combination of carved wood, laminated and shaped plastic, and "plank on frame", with modified kit parts used where I can. Exactly what techniques are used where will somewhat be determined by the final scale I end up choosing, which will partially be driven by where I can find a cowling that is somewhat close to what I need - that looks to be the single most challenging part of the scheme, with something like 14 teardrop-shaped bulges for valve cover clearance around the circumference. I may be able to use a cowl from something like a Henshel 123 or some early WWII Macchi cowl as a starting point. I'm not ready to try and make something that can be reproduced as a kit (yet). Preliminary thoughts are to carve a fuselage, then cut out the cockpit area and use thin plastic to add the fuselage skin back on in that area so I have a hollow interior. I'll probably use something like basswood for the main shapes of the fuselage and wings, suitlably carved, sanded, and sealed. |
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| Mark Schynert | Oct 1 2016, 12:39 AM Post #38 |
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Yeah, that too. Though in my case, it's not a complete treatment. It helps
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| dixieflyer | Oct 2 2016, 03:42 PM Post #39 |
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Hero
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What a great topic for discussion. (The board has been burning up lately with good discussion topics. PLEASE, keep it up!) As for me and my house: My few decades of doing living history and reenacting infected me with a desire to make a historical reproduction out of the kit in terms of color, finish, equipment, details, etc. Therein lies my biggest problem. I've got several projects that have been stagnated for years due to either: - I lack the skill set or talent to overcome a problem that I either tried to fix and messed something up, or I just can't figure out how to fix it. - Or I just bit off more than I can chew. I became my own worst enemy. I do love researching what I want to build, just as I loved the research on my various historical impressions. (What kind of fabric was this uniform made of? Is it made today? Is it constructed to the same manner and by the same methods?) (Is the kit dimensionally (sp?) correct? Are the markings correct, and of the correct color? ) Real life issues from work, health issues with the spouse, etc. have reduced my output the past few years to absolute zero. I hang out here to draw inspiration, and y'all are a very inspiring and great group to do that. I try not to be intimidated by some of the superb builds I see here. Warren |
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| Aaron_w | Oct 6 2016, 03:35 AM Post #40 |
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I guess I fall somewhere in the middle. I make an effort at accuracy but I don't lose sleep over perfection. When it comes to instructions I follow a policy of trust but verify. I'll fix things that jump out at me, but am pretty tolerant of small errors. If I need to measure something to find the problem, it probably isn't going to bother me. I'm also more likely to be annoyed by an error in a defining characteristic of the aircraft than something generic. Getting the size of the wings wrong on a spitfire is going to jump out at me less than getting the distinctive wingshape wrong. For example the Italeri / Revell H-34 has a well known (amongst helicopter modelers anyway) error of the tail rotor turning in the wrong direction. To me this is just an error I can live with because the effort to fix it (cutting off the blades and reversing them) just isn't worth the effort to me. I don't really notice the issue and I'm pretty sure 99% of the people who will see the model have the slightest clue about that. Plus this error has been traced to the museum example that the model was based on, good enough for a museum, good enough for my model case. Now taking another example from the same kit family, Italeri offers a Wessex (the UK variant of the Sikorsky H-34) with the colorful RAF yellow air sea rescue markings. However they are included for the wrong variant, a version only used by the RN. This has also been traced to an incorrect museum piece. In this case I will not use the kit decals as I know better and it would bug me despite the fact that once again 99% of the people seeing my model wouldn't know any better. The closeness of the subject also plays a major role in my persnickityness. I am far more fussy over small issues on the fire apparatus models I build because I work with the real thing on a regular basis. Small errors there will leap out at me far more than larger errors of a subject I mostly know from photos in a book. |
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| dknights | Oct 6 2016, 03:48 AM Post #41 |
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The court of LAST RESORT!
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Reading over this thread, I am not sure I can clearly identify what bugs me and what doesn't. Different things on different aircraft. |
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David M. Knights Fortes fortuna adiuvat 14 Finished: Special Armor V-2, Airfix P-51 15 Finished: SBS Gladiator engine 16 Finished: Brengun C2 Wasserfall, Merit SS-N-2 Styx, World's smallest diorama, Airfix Hurricane. 17 Finished: Japanese Carrier Deck, 18 Finished: NONE The bench:Platz T-33, Trump. T-34/85, Meng F-106, Airfix P-51 #2, Airfix P-40 Revell MiG-21F-13, Ace Citroen V-11 | |
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