Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]

CLICK HERE to see new posts in last 24 hours
Mark all forums read
Welcome to 72nd Aircraft. We hope you enjoy your visit.


You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.


Join our community!


If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Username:   Password:
PBM-5 conversion for Minicraft PBM-5A
Topic Started: Mar 18 2015, 05:49 AM (2,051 Views)
Chuck1945
Hero
[ * ]
I am also confused, the BM review implies the GR 1 is a PBM-3C but with British markings, at least that is what I got from a quick reading. Decals I can manage, but what else would be needed to make a -3 from the Minicraft -5A?
Chuck
Eastern WA, USA
Finished 2018:
Eduard Spitfire IXc, VIII, Monogram/Starfighter BFC-2
On the active bench:
Eduard Bf 110C, Hasegawa B-24D, SH P-40E
Goto Top
 
erussell
C'est
[ * ]
This is my understanding of PBM-3 models (modified from various sources). I can't see any parts you need for pretty much any PBM-3 that aren't included in the combination of kit plus GR.1.

If you have a specific question about one you want to make post a picture here and I'll try and give you the best combination of kit parts and conversion parts.

Quote:
 
Sounds like you've got all the pieces made for a -3C already, just not all in the same box

Quote:
 
if you have the parts (molds) available to make a -3, and there is an interest in it, why not offer it as a proper set?

To make a saleable USN PBM-3 conversion we would to supply decals and we don't see that we would ever sell 100 items of it, particularly as some people have already bought GR.1's with the intention of doing a USN one.

PBM-3 (Model 162B) 1,700 hp (1,270 kW) R-2600-12 engines; 32 built
PBM-3R (Model 162B) Unarmed transport version of PBM-3. 18 new build plus 31 converted from PBM-3. This is what the RAAF kit represents
PBM-3C (Model 162C) Improved patrol version with twin .50 in machine guns in nose and dorsal turrets, and single guns in tail turret and waist positions. AN/APS-15 radar in radome behind cockpit; 274 built.
PBM-3B (Model 162C) Designation for ex-RAF Mariner GR.1A after return to U.S. Navy.This is our GR.1 conversion.
PBM-3S (Model 162C) Dedicated anti-submarine aircraft with reduced armament (2× fixed 0.50 in machine guns in nose, single machine gun in port waist position and single gun in tail turret) and increased range; 94 built as new plus 62 conversions. GR.1 conversion plus kit nose transparency, no upper turret.
PBM-3D (Model 162D) Patrol bomber with increased power (two 1,900 hp (1,417 kW) R-2600-22s) and increased armament (twin 0.50 in machine guns in nose, dorsal and tail turrets, plus two waist guns). 259 built.
Ed Russell at www.redroomodels.com
Goto Top
 
erussell
C'est
[ * ]
Big Kohona,Apr 23 2015
01:15 AM
Doesn't that make it a rather pricy proposition for someone wanting to make a -3? Purchasing two sets,

You need the original kit and the GR.1 conversion so it's no more pricey than doing a GR.1 unless you get custom decals made I guess.
Ed Russell at www.redroomodels.com
Goto Top
 
erussell
C'est
[ * ]
Chuck1945,Apr 23 2015
02:54 AM
I am also confused, the BM review implies the GR 1 is a PBM-3C but with British markings, at least that is what I got from a quick reading. Decals I can manage, but what else would be needed to make a -3 from the Minicraft -5A?

Essentially true but 3B not 3C (see above, both Model 162C). You need a GR.1 kit plus markings.
Ed Russell at www.redroomodels.com
Goto Top
 
Chuck1945
Hero
[ * ]
Ed, PM sent

Thanks.
Chuck
Eastern WA, USA
Finished 2018:
Eduard Spitfire IXc, VIII, Monogram/Starfighter BFC-2
On the active bench:
Eduard Bf 110C, Hasegawa B-24D, SH P-40E
Goto Top
 
Big Kohona
Hero
[ * ]
. .
Goto Top
 
erussell
C'est
[ * ]
If anyone wishes to follow this up when GR.1 is back in stock, join our mail list and I'll make sure we send one out when it happens.

What often happens is that just a few essential parts are the limiting factor on producing more sets.
Ed Russell at www.redroomodels.com
Goto Top
 
erussell
C'est
[ * ]
We have just re-stocked out shelves with a few GR.I conversions. So, to make a PBM-3 you need the Mariner kit and this conversion set and you need to cobble up some decals yourself.
The markings were mostly fairly basic, A reference book (Squadron-Signal, or even better, the Ginter book) is strongly recommended.
if you need more help contact me. We have become, faute de mieux, Mariner "experts".
Ed Russell at www.redroomodels.com
Goto Top
 
erussell
C'est
[ * ]
Review here

http://www.hyperscale.com/2015/reviews/acc...7reviewmd_1.htm
Ed Russell at www.redroomodels.com
Goto Top
 
« Previous Topic · Kits, Aftermarket, etc. What's New? · Next Topic »