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Some 72nd Decal Love
Topic Started: Mar 8 2017, 04:54 PM (1,777 Views)
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datguy,Mar 15 2017
06:42 PM
Starfighter Decals,Mar 15 2017
08:45 AM
No kit exists of the F9F-5 or -5P.

Matchbox's F9F-5 has shown up in Revell boxes. They're on eBay from time to time.

I believe Airwaves once had the -5P nose in resin.

The Matchbox kit is a -4 and it's a "Matchbox" kit. The last re-issue by Revell Germany languished in discount bins for years. It took years for me to sell thru the 6 I got for sell-thru stock, and then at a 40% discount.

One would have though Hobbyboss with it's very nice -2/2P/3 Panther would have followed up with the one most wanted: -5. I know as few friends in the industry that has piles of Panther 5 markings itching to be released in 1/72. If the Matchbox dash 4 was that good and build-able as a Dash 5, you would have your pick of markings. But, alas, we still wait.
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f14tomcat,Mar 15 2017
08:15 PM
Mark, two things! Going to be in Gastonia for the Regional. And, second are you planning a resin cockpit for the F4U-4?

Wayne B)

No to the R-12 Regional. Same day as one of the largest 1 day shows on the East Coast: IPMS No.VA Modelfest. :( I was hoping to go.

No cockpit set for the F4U-4. A bit out of my comfort zone.
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Starfighter Decals,Mar 15 2017
03:45 PM
You have some info you can share? I found one or two F9F-2Ps that I can use. No kit exists of the F9F-5 or -5P.

If you can get Airfix to re-issue the F2H (early version and I think had the photo recon parts?) I'm game on those.

I have the Ginter books on F9F's, and the Osprey F9F Panther units book, that's all. If you need any pic's, I'm happy to help you with scans. :)
One or two F9F-2P's would be excellent, currently all we have is the Hobbyboss kit's decals full with mistakes.
About the F9F-5P's: you're right, the Matchbox kit don't worth the trouble.
I think Sword has a quite good F2H-2P Banshee, maybe it makes sense to make a common sheet to both types.
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J.C. Bahr
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SzaboP,Mar 16 2017
08:10 AM
About F-9F-5P's: you're right, the Matchobx kit don't worth the trouble.
I think the Sword has a quite good F2H-2P Banshee, maybe it makes sense make a common sheet to both types.

Oh I don't know... if some cross-kitting is done with parts from Hasegawa and a little bit of extra work, I think a respectable -5/5P can be done from the old Matchbox kit. The only issue I've had with that kit is that the intakes are kind of wonky and need some work to look right.

Also, I think a decal sheet dedicated specifically to photo-recon versions of the Panther and the Banshee would be interesting.
J.C. Bahr

"A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP" - Leonard Nimoy
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I have those books mentioned and a few more. As I said before, only 2 F9F-2Ps have enough info to make a decal sheet. I need photos of both sides (burned to many times), and some accurate (and i can't stress this enough) time information.

Combining an F9F-2P and a F2H-2P sheet just might work.....I have more info on Photo Banshee's (because more of them actually were used vs. the Photo Panthers).

Of course if the Panther sheets I had would sell better, this would be an easy decision.

I have a hard time justifying decals for short run kits like Sword, AZ, RS, and so forth. Limited availability and limited production. When I have to print as many decals as they produce in kits really limits sales...
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Starfighter Decals,Mar 17 2017
09:03 AM
Of course if the Panther sheets I had would sell better, this would be an easy decision.

I have a hard time justifying decals for short run kits like Sword, AZ, RS, and so forth. Limited availability and limited production. When I have to print as many decals as they produce in kits really limits sales...

Anything else photo-recon that you can include on the sheet? Mark's (Wolfpak) formula for multiple subjects on a sheet seems a viable one when it comes to trying to move a sheet.
J.C. Bahr

"A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP" - Leonard Nimoy
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Greenshirt
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Photo Navy/Marines: F4F-3P/7, F6F-5P, F9F-2P...

I think I already have a sheet from Mark that had a F4F-3P/7...but I could be wrong. Anyway, I'd like the set as I have been collecting photo birds of the Navy/Marines but decal choices are limited.
Tim Holland

I'm a "green shirt" because I work on the carrier's flight deck and maintain US Navy aircraft. Safe sorties are my life so we can be anywhere, anytime -- from the Sea.

http://greenshirt-modeler.blogspot.com/
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Paul Boyer
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You could even add photo Cougars, too. They were all gray/white if I'm not mistaken, 'cept maybe the prototype. I made this one from the Falcon nose on the Hasegawa kit. All the red areas (really orange but my camera/flash has trouble reproducing orange properly) are paint and all the makings came from spares sheets.

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Mark, just throwing this out there.

How about a "Navy Recon sheet"

Put a couple of RF-8 with GA and PP codes on it, with some of the stripes and stars they used.

Then some RF Cougars, RF Banshees, and whatever you can verify for RF Panthers.

I am sure if you leave off the data and warning markings, we can get those from kits or from other decal sheets.

Mix and match this in your head, leave out whatever you think is already covered, etc.

That way, at least one or two of the markings fit available kits or conversions, which might help them sell, and the "weird" guys that want to do rare subjects can do those too. (counting myself as one of the "weird" guys, lol)

(sneak in a pair of white UP, HU, and/or UR in a corner of the sheet, and you would help the "helo angel" guys out a bit, too)
yep, one of each USN squadron

http://hangardeckview.blogspot.com/
http://z15.invisionfree.com/Hangar_Deck_Re...dex.php?act=idx
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Paul Boyer
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Yeah, call it "Fifties Fleet Foto Fighters"! There! You've already sold one to me!
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Paul Boyer,Mar 17 2017
02:00 PM
"Fifties Fleet Foto Fighters"

4-F? Unfit for military service, or as originally used in the American Civil War, "unfit for military service due to the lack of four front teeth" (with which to open cartridge cases).
Jeff

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I spent most of my money on beer and women. The rest of it I just wasted.
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TIL...
Tim Holland

I'm a "green shirt" because I work on the carrier's flight deck and maintain US Navy aircraft. Safe sorties are my life so we can be anywhere, anytime -- from the Sea.

http://greenshirt-modeler.blogspot.com/
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Good ideas all. I have a pile of RF-8A markings from the CVW sets.

There were some F7U-3Ps as well to add to the "4-F" theme. And AJ-3Ps? Getting carried away here.... :wacko:
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I don't think the F7U-3P ever saw service beyond testing. Yes, you can buy a Fujimi kit of the photo Cutlass, but it really was not a "player."
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Starfighter Decals,Mar 16 2017
08:17 AM
The Matchbox kit is a -4 and it's a "Matchbox" kit.

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No question that it's a Matchbox kit. I've built it, and it's not bad - for a Matchbox kit - 'nuf said there. I'm sure your sales experience is typical.

On the other hand, both Joe Baugher's summaries and Jim Sullivan's "In Action" book say that the -4 and -5 were externally indistinguishable.

A nice -4/5 would definitely be welcome. And, come to think of it, a F9F-6/6P would be good too.

David
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