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| About Dragon kits; Ki 61 tony | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 3 2012, 03:09 AM (612 Views) | |
| plasticdownunder | May 3 2012, 03:09 AM Post #1 |
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To the members here, Im thinking of buying the Dragon " golden wing series" Ki61-1 Hien ( tony) Looking at the box art etc seems a good kit, including some PE as well! Has anyone here had experience with this kit? I have no experience with building Dragon kits. Many thanks. |
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| Graham Boak | May 3 2012, 09:53 AM Post #2 |
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I presume this is the original kit with extra goodies. I must admit finding it less attractive than the older Hasegawa Ki61, so much so that when I bought it on its first appearance I rapidly offloaded it at a loss. I thought it was the same variant (so a missed opportunity) with less crisp tooling than HG presenting a somewhat "soggy" appearance. In fairness, I should add that when I posted this comment some time ago, others were quick to disagree with me, and I no longer had the kit to argue in detail. |
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| InchHigh | May 3 2012, 01:44 PM Post #3 |
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It's a good day to build.
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I built one recently: http://z15.invisionfree.com/72nd_Aircraft/...wtopic=1602&hl= It's a good kit, and does not suffer from Dragon's notorious fit problems. I can recommend it, and I would not hesitate to build another. An enjoyable build! |
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Jeff Time spent modeling is not deducted from your lifespan. I spent most of my money on beer and women. The rest of it I just wasted. | |
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| Les Moore | May 7 2012, 03:45 AM Post #4 |
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Hand me that piano.
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I hope their Tony kit is better than the other Dragon (DML) kits I've built. Usually they have a "pebbly" finish and fit poorly. Their "P/E" is nickel plated and extremely hard to cut. Good luck...I'll be watching on the sidelines and rooting for you. |
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Les Moore Summerfield Florida Keep thinkin' that. | |
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| Mark Schynert | May 7 2012, 05:34 AM Post #5 |
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A few observations: [1] My Dragon Ki. 61 has brass PE, not nickel-plated, so evidently the materials were changed at some point in the run. [2] The Hasegawa kit differs in scale from the Dragon kit, with the fuselage, wingspan and wing chord all being slightly and proportionately larger on the Hasegawa example. I don't which (if either) is right for 1/72; this would require breaking pieces off the respective sprues and taping them up, but I imagine someone around here knows the answer already. By comparison, the RS Ki. 61-II-KAI has essentially the same wing as the Dragon kit, though the fuselage is at least half a centimeter longer (and it should be longer, because of the engine). This makes me suspect the Hasegawa is over scale, unless, of course, RS simply copied the Dragon wing. [3] The Dragon kit has interior detail; the Hasegawa next to none. OTOH, the Hasegawa exterior detail is more delicate, though the Dragon detail does not look overdone. They don't quite match in detail, which is to be expected--most subjects kitted by two different companies will differ. Again, which is the better rendition requires further investigation. [4] The Dragon kit caters to the armament variations of the Ki. 61-I, listed as Koh, Otsu and Hei; again, how accurately? |
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| Graham Boak | May 7 2012, 10:33 AM Post #6 |
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I would certainly agree about the pebbly finish on my Dragon Ki61 (though not on any of my other Dragon kits!), but suspect there have been different releases of the Ki61 as there was no choice of variant, either. There might have been pe but I don't remember it. Given that different versions of the Ki61-I had different nose lengths, I'd be careful about which variants are specified, and this could explain a difference in fuselage lengths from the Hasegawa. Again, I remember them as side-by-side the same. I was disappointed that the opportunity hadn't been taken to produce a slightly different version. I don't recall any difference in the wingspan, but would consider checking against the known dimensions rather than another kit. I suppose I could go and check whether the later Fine Molds wings differ in semi-span and chord from the Hasegawa ones, and measure them while I'm at it. |
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