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Eduard Me110; Versions in the box
Topic Started: Aug 8 2012, 12:03 PM (1,669 Views)
seifert
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Hi fellow modellers
A little newbie question (my first here)

I have bought the beautifull Me 110 E from Eduard

I have a plan to build it as a Me110 C nachtjager from Njg3 (L1+DH)

In the box there seems to be all the parts to backdate the model to the early version (another Mg nose and short tailwheel) but I'm a liile unsure if there is other changes aswell (engines?)

So if any outhere have any input please let me know :unsure:

best regards
Dan
Enjoy your modelling- build them ,not just put them on storage...

Best regards
Dan
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Chuck1945
Hero
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Engines are the same, the parts are there for a Bf 110C

And welcome :wub:
Chuck
Eastern WA, USA
Finished 2018:
Eduard Spitfire IXc, VIII, Monogram/Starfighter BFC-2
On the active bench:
Eduard Bf 110C, Hasegawa B-24D, SH P-40E
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seifert
Newbie
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Hi again
Thanks for the welcome! ;), and thanks for the input, so if all the parts is in the box, do i miss anything, when I look at the parts overwiew there at 2 types of mainwheels and 2 types of rearwheels, which do I choose ?
Tthere is a possibillity to build the version with the extra long fuselage (was that only for the D version ?)
Am I right to choose the rudder whitout the extended trimflaps?
Then there is several types of extragasoline tanks and bombs ,but I dont need them when a nightfighter is in question right ?

Sorry for all these questions, but my reference is very limited! :(
Enjoy your modelling- build them ,not just put them on storage...

Best regards
Dan
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Billy
Beast
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looking at the profiles in ospreys nightfighter aces, none of the 110 Cs have external tanks. Photo evidence would seem to suggest that only the later 110s used tanks.
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Chuck1945
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seifert,Aug 9 2012
06:40 AM
Hi again
Thanks for the welcome! ;), and thanks for the input, so if all the parts is in the box, do i miss anything, when I look  at the parts overwiew there at 2  types of mainwheels and 2 types of rearwheels, which do I choose ?
Tthere is a possibillity to build  the version with the extra long fuselage (was that only for the  D version ?)
Am I right to choose the rudder whitout the extended trimflaps?
Then there is several types of extragasoline tanks and bombs ,but I dont need them when a nightfighter is in question right ?

Sorry for all these questions, but my reference is very limited! :(

The Bf 110C could carry EIC racks under the fuselage center section (bombs) but did not have wing attachment points (no drop tanks or bomb racks on a C)

The big under fuselage fuel tank is specific for the D version. The D series also introduced 'wet' points for underwing fuel tanks, although not on the earliest D series. These were added (the wet points) when it became obvious the big fuselage tank wasn't a viable option. The E added the ability to carry either under wing tanks or bomb racks.

The longer fuselage was for the carriage of an inflatable dingy (or raft) for over water flying and again did not appear on the C although the Ds and, I believe, some Es could have that feature.

The smaller wheels (main and tail) are also C specific. Finally the stabilizers with the smooth profile are appropriate for the C.
Chuck
Eastern WA, USA
Finished 2018:
Eduard Spitfire IXc, VIII, Monogram/Starfighter BFC-2
On the active bench:
Eduard Bf 110C, Hasegawa B-24D, SH P-40E
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InchHigh
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Thanks for the info, Chuck. That's very useful! I find the more I think I know about aircraft, the more I don't know. :lol:
Jeff

Time spent modeling is not deducted from your lifespan.

I spent most of my money on beer and women. The rest of it I just wasted.
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seifert
Newbie
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Hi Chuck
Many thanks for the information, that is very usefull, I can now begin a little build on this aircraft....more to follow ;)
Enjoy your modelling- build them ,not just put them on storage...

Best regards
Dan
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dknights
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This is great news. I picked up a 110E at the Nats, but I'd really like to build a BoB 110C. I'd love someone who knows this kit to post what part numbers to use for a 110C including any changes needed besides what is in the kit.
David M. Knights
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15 Finished: SBS Gladiator engine
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Chuck1945
Hero
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Out of the box, everything needed for a BoB Bf 110C is there, the only exception would be the cannon armed C-6 (under fuselage cannon pod a la the Hs 129) that was used experimentally by E.Gr 210. There is even the offset trough for the rear gun as seen on the C-1.

The additions of wing hard points, drop tanks, and bomb racks (and bombs) increased the all-up weight and the larger tires were one of the methods of dealing with the additional weight.

I dont have time just now to attempt to give part numbers, but will make that project for tomorrow. Someone else who knows more than I may well fill the details first however (I am hoping :)).
Chuck
Eastern WA, USA
Finished 2018:
Eduard Spitfire IXc, VIII, Monogram/Starfighter BFC-2
On the active bench:
Eduard Bf 110C, Hasegawa B-24D, SH P-40E
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Chuck1945
Hero
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OK, at least a partial list of 'C' specific part numbers for the Eduard kit.

Tail fins: E11 and 14
Main wheels: B6 and 7
Tail wheel: H6
omit all wing racks
ETC rack (fuselage) ok for a fighter-bomber; part A7
B34 instead of B35 if doing a C-1
Upper nose part H8 instead of e17
Pitot tube A18
Clear parts per the E kit except not D4 (armor glass for windshield) This may have been added to Cs later in their service life, but wasn't a factory item as far as I can tell.

Personally, I would just wait till Eduard does a 'C' specific boxing since it will include appropriate decals for a Bf 110C and direct the builder to the correct C parts for each of the markings options included. Meanwhile build the kit in one of the markings options provided in the Bf 110E box :D (or save it and use it as a basis for another C once the C box comes out)
Chuck
Eastern WA, USA
Finished 2018:
Eduard Spitfire IXc, VIII, Monogram/Starfighter BFC-2
On the active bench:
Eduard Bf 110C, Hasegawa B-24D, SH P-40E
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popeye
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Hero
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Thanks Chuck !

Very much hope that somebody "in the know" will start an "in Progress" here sooner or later.
The kit is really mouth watering.....

And while you all are looking into possible builds - has anybody an idea if suitable after market parts for modification to a recce 110 E or F might be offered somewhere?

Rolf
Rolf B. - Basel, Switzerland
"Nobody is perfect, not even a perfect fool"
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ww2nut
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Hero
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The E was the first 110 to have the square intake installed in the nose between the guns so if building a C or D be sure to use the smooth nose part (H8).

The pitot tube was changed during the E production run but your in good shape here as Eduard gives you the C,D and early E model underwing pitot tube.

Joe


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renscho
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ww2nut,Aug 17 2012
06:38 PM
The E was the first 110 to have the square intake installed in the nose between the guns so if building a C or D be sure to use the smooth nose part (H8).

The pitot tube was changed during the E production run but your in good shape here as Eduard gives you the C,D and early E model underwing pitot tube.

Joe

Joe, most F models and some early G models had the curved underwing pitot as well. I think certain parts were mixed and matched somewhere starting maybe in the E range and continuing, because it is somewhat less easy to give specifics on those models.

I recall how tough it was pinning the differences between the F and the so-called E Trop (which I believe was actually an E adapted for glider towing).

Good old 110s...
Robert E. Rensch
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ww2nut
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Hero
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The book I'm drawing my info from is the superb Vasco and Estanislau authored "Messerschmitt Bf 110 C,D and E. An Illustrated Study".

This book is pretty amazing and a must have reference for the Bf 110 fan. I'd love to have the same book for the later versions but I don't think it exists yet.

Here's the book,

http://www.amazon.com/Messerschmitt-Bf-110...keywords=bf+110

Joe
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renscho
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John Vasco knows his stuff better than anyone by a far piece...

He pops in on the Luftwaffe Experten Message Board sometimes. Questions pertaining to the 110 are sure to attract his attention.

I'm sure the book is well worth having.
Robert E. Rensch
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