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Hasegawa Spitfire Mk.VIII
Topic Started: Sep 1 2012, 10:45 PM (771 Views)
mbittner
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I've recently acquired a partially-started Hasegawa Spitfire Mk.VIII. Thankfully only the wing has been put together, but my question is, can I use Mk.IX aftermarket on this and it will still be a Mk.VIII? In particular, I'm thinking about cockpit pieces.

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693514V
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Cockpits remained pretty much the same for all Spitfires, and in 1/72 it shouldn't be a problem. Roy Sutherland had a nice build blog for one of these on his website, and showed how he fit one his own cockpits to the Hasegawa kit.



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Flyboy72nd
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The question one needs to ask; "Canopy open or closed?"
Open and yes you should worry about cockpit detail. Closed and as lond as there are seat belts visible you are golden!?
I've built 2 of these so far (one's in completed models for this year) and with the canopy closed you need a light to see anything in the cockpit and even then it's limited.
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Seahawk
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Don't forget to remove the bulges above the wheel wells.
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Seahawk,Sep 2 2012
01:32 PM
Don't forget to remove the bulges above the wheel wells.

Anything else I should know about building this as a Mk.VIII? What are good references? So far the only thing I have on the Spitfire are the books from The Aviation Workshop on PR-types.

Thanks for everything so far, fellow modelers!
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Matt, in 1/72 scale i wouldn't obsess too much over the differences in cockpits between a Mk VIII and IX. I built a Hasegawa VIII back in 1997 and right from the box its a great kit. I used a Hawkeye Models resin spinner and propeller set (done by Roy Sutherland, IIRC) and the end result looks very nice.

I'd definitely "droop" the elevators and open up the side cockpit door. If you want an idea as to what would be good to incorporate in a Spitfire cockpit, i suggest you look at Len Thomson's excellent spitfire builds over at ARC.

And don't forget to remove the bulge over the wheel wells.

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You MUST replace the prop!! The Hasegawa blades are in need of some steroids! I have just assembled the Quickboost offering and have 10 sets of the 3D Kit version for my Mk IXs and others. If I can get my camera to cooperate I'll see if I can get a comparison pic.
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Flyboy72nd,Sep 2 2012
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I have just assembled the Quickboost offering and have 10 sets of the 3D Kit version for my Mk IXs and others. If I can get my camera to cooperate I'll see if I can get a comparison pic.

Agree that the Hasegawa egg-whisk has to go. Would be interested in that HA/QB/3D comparison: I have 3 sets of the 3D Kits offerings myself but, while they're undoubtedly better, I suspect them of still being a bit undernourished.
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Flyboy72nd,Sep 2 2012
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You MUST replace the prop!! The Hasegawa blades are in need of some steroids! I have just assembled the Quickboost offering and have 10 sets of the 3D Kit version for my Mk IXs and others. If I can get my camera to cooperate I'll see if I can get a comparison pic.

I have a 3D set, so I take it I should use its prop on the Mk.VIII? What about what's in the rest of the set?
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mbittner,Sep 3 2012
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I have a 3D set, so I take it I should use its prop on the Mk.VIII? What about what's in the rest of the set?

Not needed: the rudder's already in the kit and the gun blisters are only needed if you want to convert the kit to e wing, which is not applicable to the Mark VIII.

Two other minor points (besides the undercarriage bulges)

- on all non-bubbletop Spitfire except the pressurised Mark VII rpt VII there is a step upwards in the canopy glazing behind the sliding hood. Because the Hasegawa kit is engineered to accommodate the Mark VII option, it does not have that step. Very quickly fixed with a strip of painted transfer sheet.

- the kit is also engineered to accommodate both long and short aileron Spitfire variants: you will see that there are two engraved lines at the outer end of the ailerons. The Mark VIII, IIRC, has the shorter ailerons so the outer lines need to be filled. Again, easily done. (If I do not RC, please someone put me out of my misery!)

Both of these points may or may not be picked up in the instructions.
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Seahawk,Sep 3 2012
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- on all non-bubbletop Spitfire except the pressurised Mark VII rpt VII there is a step upwards in the canopy glazing behind the sliding hood. Because the Hasegawa kit is engineered to accommodate the Mark VII option, it does not have that step. Very quickly fixed with a strip of painted transfer sheet.

Thanks for everything. However, with this one I don't quite understand. Do you have a photo or drawing to illustrate?

TIA!
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mbittner,Sep 3 2012
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Seahawk,Sep 3 2012
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- on all non-bubbletop Spitfire except the pressurised Mark VII rpt VII there is a step upwards in the canopy glazing behind the sliding hood.  Because the Hasegawa kit is engineered to accommodate the Mark VII option, it does not have that step.  Very quickly fixed with a strip of painted transfer sheet.

Thanks for everything. However, with this one I don't quite understand. Do you have a photo or drawing to illustrate?

TIA!

I didn't think I'd explained it very well. Afraid I'm not up to this posting photos lark so here goes with another description. Assuming it's not a teardrop-canopied variant, all Spitfires have a portion of glazing just behind the sliding part of the hood. On nearly all marks this is slightly shallower than the sliding hood, resulting in a step in the bottom edge of the canopy glazing which is about 3-4 inches in real life. All credit to Hasegawa that they realised that the Mark VII didn't have this step (ie the lower edge of the hood is continued in a straight line to the very back of the canopy): they kindly provided a canopy suitable for the Mark VII. However for a Mark VIII or IX you need to apply an approx 1mm stripe of paint along the bottom edge of the rearmost section of the canopy. What I'm wittering on about will be pretty obvious from a side view of any Spitfire - other than a Mark VII!
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693514V
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Matt,

this may help help: http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2001...tfire_ix_04.htm



Scott J
We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
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693514V,Sep 3 2012
03:37 PM

Thanks: first photo is just the job.
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Chuck1945
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It has been too many years since I built that kit to remember what the instructions say, but regardless, the prybar on the side access door should not be painted red. Interior grey-green, black, or even a dark metallic would be appropriate.
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