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Maybe if i said
Tweet Topic Started: Nov 4 2008, 11:49 AM (1,378 Views)
The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Nov 8 2008, 03:28 PM Post #61
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	MaxJ Nov 8 2008, 02:11 PM Jack the IV Nov 8 2008, 12:00 AM Um Max, a square is a rectangle. Oh lol I thought a squar had 4 equal sides and a rectangle 2 longer and 2 shorter ones that's right, a square isn't a rectangle...
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


Incog	Nov 8 2008, 03:48 PM Post #62
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	It's a type of rectangle... it's like right triangles, they're triangles...with 90° corner.
	Black tulip Tribute to the the greatest of the great.


Jam	Nov 8 2008, 07:28 PM Post #63
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	A triangle is just half a rectangle.
	Long live Carolus


UnknownCow	Nov 8 2008, 07:44 PM Post #64
Lieutenant Posts: 381 Group: Member Member #131 Joined: October 22, 2008	Hyperactive Jam Nov 8 2008, 07:28 PM A triangle is just half a rectangle. Unless the half of the rectangle is a rectangle.



Vondongo	Nov 8 2008, 08:01 PM Post #65
Moo. Posts: 5,434 Group: Member Member #130 Joined: October 15, 2008	UnknownCow Nov 8 2008, 03:44 PM Hyperactive Jam Nov 8 2008, 07:28 PM A triangle is just half a rectangle. Unless the half of the rectangle is a rectangle. Or the triangle isn't in a rectangle at all.



Jam	Nov 8 2008, 08:06 PM Post #66
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	Redemption Nov 8 2008, 03:01 PM UnknownCow Nov 8 2008, 03:44 PM Hyperactive Jam Nov 8 2008, 07:28 PM A triangle is just half a rectangle. Unless the half of the rectangle is a rectangle. Or the triangle isn't in a rectangle at all. Fine, a right triangle is half a rectangle. A triangle is half a rectangle or trapazoid.
	Long live Carolus


Goodsbee	Nov 8 2008, 08:11 PM Post #67
life is grand :) Posts: 5,199 Group: A414A Member Member #105 Joined: July 20, 2008	wow...how off topic is this... germee don't leave



MxDiane	Nov 9 2008, 07:16 AM Post #68
Worteltjes World Posts: 10,700 Group: Pegasus Member #3 Joined: December 13, 2007	Hyperactive Jam Nov 8 2008, 08:06 PM Redemption Nov 8 2008, 03:01 PM UnknownCow Nov 8 2008, 03:44 PM Hyperactive Jam Nov 8 2008, 07:28 PM A triangle is just half a rectangle. Unless the half of the rectangle is a rectangle. Or the triangle isn't in a rectangle at all. Fine, a right triangle is half a rectangle. A triangle is half a rectangle or trapazoid. Now can we change the subject?
	"He orders something unusual, like a Black Russian or a Tom Collins, and when you request a beer he says that surely a complex woman deserves a complex drink. " - Travis Grandt


MaxJ	Nov 9 2008, 10:19 AM Post #69
Wij van A414A adviseren A414A Posts: 9,339 Group: Moderator Member #58 Joined: April 21, 2008	MxDiane Nov 9 2008, 08:16 AM Hyperactive Jam Nov 8 2008, 08:06 PM Redemption Nov 8 2008, 03:01 PM UnknownCow Nov 8 2008, 03:44 PM Hyperactive Jam Nov 8 2008, 07:28 PM A triangle is just half a rectangle. Unless the half of the rectangle is a rectangle. Or the triangle isn't in a rectangle at all. Fine, a right triangle is half a rectangle. A triangle is half a rectangle or trapazoid. Now can we change the subject? Yes please, I didn't understand anything of that anymore :rolleyes:
	Jouw wereld, jouw A414A forum.


MxDiane	Nov 9 2008, 12:57 PM Post #70
Worteltjes World Posts: 10,700 Group: Pegasus Member #3 Joined: December 13, 2007	MaxJ Nov 9 2008, 10:19 AM MxDiane Nov 9 2008, 08:16 AM Hyperactive Jam Nov 8 2008, 08:06 PM Redemption Nov 8 2008, 03:01 PM UnknownCow Nov 8 2008, 03:44 PM Hyperactive Jam Nov 8 2008, 07:28 PM A triangle is just half a rectangle. Unless the half of the rectangle is a rectangle. Or the triangle isn't in a rectangle at all. Fine, a right triangle is half a rectangle. A triangle is half a rectangle or trapazoid. Now can we change the subject? Yes please, I didn't understand anything of that anymore :rolleyes: Haha, well you were right the first time :) just ignore the rest : P now lets go on to.... trigonometry! more shapes woohoo! ok lets talk about apples now. i love apples. an apple a day keeps the doctor away.
	"He orders something unusual, like a Black Russian or a Tom Collins, and when you request a beer he says that surely a complex woman deserves a complex drink. " - Travis Grandt


MaxJ	Nov 9 2008, 01:01 PM Post #71
Wij van A414A adviseren A414A Posts: 9,339 Group: Moderator Member #58 Joined: April 21, 2008	MxDiane Nov 9 2008, 01:57 PM MaxJ Nov 9 2008, 10:19 AM MxDiane Nov 9 2008, 08:16 AM Hyperactive Jam Nov 8 2008, 08:06 PM Redemption Nov 8 2008, 03:01 PM UnknownCow Nov 8 2008, 03:44 PM Hyperactive Jam Nov 8 2008, 07:28 PM A triangle is just half a rectangle. Unless the half of the rectangle is a rectangle. Or the triangle isn't in a rectangle at all. Fine, a right triangle is half a rectangle. A triangle is half a rectangle or trapazoid. Now can we change the subject? Yes please, I didn't understand anything of that anymore :rolleyes: Haha, well you were right the first time :) just ignore the rest : P now lets go on to.... trigonometry! more shapes woohoo! ok lets talk about apples now. i love apples. an apple a day keeps the doctor away. Do you like soft or hard apples?
	Jouw wereld, jouw A414A forum.


MxDiane	Nov 9 2008, 05:32 PM Post #72
Worteltjes World Posts: 10,700 Group: Pegasus Member #3 Joined: December 13, 2007	MaxJ Nov 9 2008, 01:01 PM MxDiane Nov 9 2008, 01:57 PM MaxJ Nov 9 2008, 10:19 AM MxDiane Nov 9 2008, 08:16 AM Hyperactive Jam Nov 8 2008, 08:06 PM Redemption Nov 8 2008, 03:01 PM UnknownCow Nov 8 2008, 03:44 PM Hyperactive Jam Nov 8 2008, 07:28 PM A triangle is just half a rectangle. Unless the half of the rectangle is a rectangle. Or the triangle isn't in a rectangle at all. Fine, a right triangle is half a rectangle. A triangle is half a rectangle or trapazoid. Now can we change the subject? Yes please, I didn't understand anything of that anymore :rolleyes: Haha, well you were right the first time :) just ignore the rest : P now lets go on to.... trigonometry! more shapes woohoo! ok lets talk about apples now. i love apples. an apple a day keeps the doctor away. Do you like soft or hard apples? i like both. i tend to eat hard more though. you?
	"He orders something unusual, like a Black Russian or a Tom Collins, and when you request a beer he says that surely a complex woman deserves a complex drink. " - Travis Grandt


MaxJ	Nov 9 2008, 06:05 PM Post #73
Wij van A414A adviseren A414A Posts: 9,339 Group: Moderator Member #58 Joined: April 21, 2008	MxDiane Nov 9 2008, 06:32 PM MaxJ Nov 9 2008, 01:01 PM MxDiane Nov 9 2008, 01:57 PM MaxJ Nov 9 2008, 10:19 AM MxDiane Nov 9 2008, 08:16 AM Hyperactive Jam Nov 8 2008, 08:06 PM Redemption Nov 8 2008, 03:01 PM UnknownCow Nov 8 2008, 03:44 PM Hyperactive Jam Nov 8 2008, 07:28 PM A triangle is just half a rectangle. Unless the half of the rectangle is a rectangle. Or the triangle isn't in a rectangle at all. Fine, a right triangle is half a rectangle. A triangle is half a rectangle or trapazoid. Now can we change the subject? Yes please, I didn't understand anything of that anymore :rolleyes: Haha, well you were right the first time :) just ignore the rest : P now lets go on to.... trigonometry! more shapes woohoo! ok lets talk about apples now. i love apples. an apple a day keeps the doctor away. Do you like soft or hard apples? i like both. i tend to eat hard more though. you? I also like them both, sometimes is a soft red one very tasty and sometimes(more in the morning) are green hard ones better. Like Jonagolds and Granny Smith, but they sell apples fresh from the tree just outside the city
	Jouw wereld, jouw A414A forum.


Jam	Nov 9 2008, 07:15 PM Post #74
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	Shall I derive the formula for the instantaneous slope of a point on a graph?
	Long live Carolus


gs	Nov 9 2008, 07:19 PM Post #75
Slow down Posts: 16,297 Group: Animals Member #1 Joined: December 12, 2007	Goodsbee Nov 8 2008, 09:11 PM wow...how off topic is this... germee don't leave she didn't, really.



_Saladin_	Nov 9 2008, 09:33 PM Post #76
Major Bullshit Posts: 2,763 Group: A414A Member Member #28 Joined: January 1, 2008	Hyperactive Jam Nov 9 2008, 07:15 PM Shall I derive the formula for the instantaneous slope of a point on a graph? How are you going to draw a tangent using text?



Jam	Nov 9 2008, 10:09 PM Post #77
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	_Saladin_ Nov 9 2008, 04:33 PM Hyperactive Jam Nov 9 2008, 07:15 PM Shall I derive the formula for the instantaneous slope of a point on a graph? How are you going to draw a tangent using text? I don't have to draw anything.
	Long live Carolus


_Saladin_	Nov 9 2008, 10:40 PM Post #78
Major Bullshit Posts: 2,763 Group: A414A Member Member #28 Joined: January 1, 2008	Elaborate



Jam	Nov 9 2008, 11:49 PM Post #79
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	_Saladin_ Nov 9 2008, 05:40 PM Elaborate You have a non-linear line with point A and point B farther to the right of point A. For simplicity, this is a positive parabola. Now consider the coordinates of the points. A: (x, y) B: (x+h, y+z) take into consideration this way of writing the difference in value between A and B: since y is a function of x, f(x), we can say that A: (x, f(x)) B: (x+h, f(x+h)) Now imagine a straight line connecting point A and B. The forumla for the slop of this straight line is (y1 - y2) / (x1 - x2) according to the f(x) functions this is: [f(x+h) - f(x)] / (x+h) - x) simplifies to just h at the bottom Now you have the slope of the straight line connecting piont A and B, but you want to find the slope of the parabola at point A, not the line between A and B. To do this you must descrease the difference between A and B until they are the same, in other words make 'h' equal to 0, in other words Newton was a fucking genious. Notation for this is lim (h->0) aka 'h' approaching 0 So the final forumla for the instaneous slope of a point on a curve is: f '(x) = lim [f(x+h) - f(x)] / h ........h->0 the dots are there to push the h->0 under the lim where it should be. __________________________________________________________ Now say our function is x^2 and we want the slope at x=5 [(x + h)^2 - x^2 ] / h We can't make h=0 or its undefined, so we rewrite the eqation until we cancel out the h at the bottom. [(x+h)(x+h) -x^2] / h (x^2 + 2xh + h^2 - x^2) / h (2xh + h^2) / h h(2x + h) / h 2x + h 2x + 0 2x 2(5)= 10 the slope at x=5 is 10 Of course there are other rules so you don't have to go through the whole thing, for example the power rule: x^n becomes nx^(n-1) so x^2 becomes 2x^(2-1) or 2x
	Long live Carolus


gooback	Nov 9 2008, 11:52 PM Post #80
Lieutenant Posts: 260 Group: Member Member #133 Joined: October 29, 2008	Hyperactive Jam Nov 9 2008, 10:09 PM _Saladin_ Nov 9 2008, 04:33 PM Hyperactive Jam Nov 9 2008, 07:15 PM Shall I derive the formula for the instantaneous slope of a point on a graph? How are you going to draw a tangent using text? I don't have to draw anything. but drawing a tangent line is so much easier, but you know what, if you draw a tangent line, unless the slope is 0 or undefined, you can turn it into a right triangle, which can become a square or a rectangle, or both if its a square...



Jam	Nov 10 2008, 12:06 AM Post #81
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	gooback Nov 9 2008, 06:52 PM Hyperactive Jam Nov 9 2008, 10:09 PM _Saladin_ Nov 9 2008, 04:33 PM Hyperactive Jam Nov 9 2008, 07:15 PM Shall I derive the formula for the instantaneous slope of a point on a graph? How are you going to draw a tangent using text? I don't have to draw anything. but drawing a tangent line is so much easier, but you know what, if you draw a tangent line, unless the slope is 0 or undefined, you can turn it into a right triangle, which can become a square or a rectangle, or both if its a square... And how do you draw the tangent line to point A without knowing the slope at point A?
	Long live Carolus


gooback	Nov 10 2008, 12:17 AM Post #82
Lieutenant Posts: 260 Group: Member Member #133 Joined: October 29, 2008	Hyperactive Jam Nov 10 2008, 12:06 AM gooback Nov 9 2008, 06:52 PM Hyperactive Jam Nov 9 2008, 10:09 PM _Saladin_ Nov 9 2008, 04:33 PM Hyperactive Jam Nov 9 2008, 07:15 PM Shall I derive the formula for the instantaneous slope of a point on a graph? How are you going to draw a tangent using text? I don't have to draw anything. but drawing a tangent line is so much easier, but you know what, if you draw a tangent line, unless the slope is 0 or undefined, you can turn it into a right triangle, which can become a square or a rectangle, or both if its a square... And how do you draw the tangent line to point A without knowing the slope at point A? approximation, less accuarate, but way easier, you see, Im lazy....



Jam	Nov 10 2008, 12:21 AM Post #83
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	gooback Nov 9 2008, 07:17 PM Hyperactive Jam Nov 10 2008, 12:06 AM gooback Nov 9 2008, 06:52 PM Hyperactive Jam Nov 9 2008, 10:09 PM _Saladin_ Nov 9 2008, 04:33 PM Hyperactive Jam Nov 9 2008, 07:15 PM Shall I derive the formula for the instantaneous slope of a point on a graph? How are you going to draw a tangent using text? I don't have to draw anything. but drawing a tangent line is so much easier, but you know what, if you draw a tangent line, unless the slope is 0 or undefined, you can turn it into a right triangle, which can become a square or a rectangle, or both if its a square... And how do you draw the tangent line to point A without knowing the slope at point A? approximation, less accuarate, but way easier, you see, Im lazy.... Well then draw the tangent using your calculator.
	Long live Carolus


gooback	Nov 10 2008, 12:27 AM Post #84
Lieutenant Posts: 260 Group: Member Member #133 Joined: October 29, 2008	Hyperactive Jam Nov 10 2008, 12:21 AM gooback Nov 9 2008, 07:17 PM Hyperactive Jam Nov 10 2008, 12:06 AM gooback Nov 9 2008, 06:52 PM Hyperactive Jam Nov 9 2008, 10:09 PM _Saladin_ Nov 9 2008, 04:33 PM Hyperactive Jam Nov 9 2008, 07:15 PM Shall I derive the formula for the instantaneous slope of a point on a graph? How are you going to draw a tangent using text? I don't have to draw anything. but drawing a tangent line is so much easier, but you know what, if you draw a tangent line, unless the slope is 0 or undefined, you can turn it into a right triangle, which can become a square or a rectangle, or both if its a square... And how do you draw the tangent line to point A without knowing the slope at point A? approximation, less accuarate, but way easier, you see, Im lazy.... Well then draw the tangent using your calculator. Like I have a TI - 83 graphing calculator lying around, we only get those when were learning how to use them in school, otherwise I draw a tangent and say "the ball is moving around 10 km/h, with 0 significant digits...



Jam	Nov 10 2008, 12:29 AM Post #85
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	gooback Nov 9 2008, 07:27 PM Like I have a TI - 83 graphing calculator lying around, we only get those when were learning how to use them in school, otherwise I draw a tangent and say "the ball is moving around 10 km/h, with 0 significant digits... Well I'm required to have one so I assumed...
	Long live Carolus


gooback	Nov 10 2008, 12:33 AM Post #86
Lieutenant Posts: 260 Group: Member Member #133 Joined: October 29, 2008	Hyperactive Jam Nov 10 2008, 12:29 AM gooback Nov 9 2008, 07:27 PM Like I have a TI - 83 graphing calculator lying around, we only get those when were learning how to use them in school, otherwise I draw a tangent and say "the ball is moving around 10 km/h, with 0 significant digits... Well I'm required to have one so I assumed... when you assume, you make an ass out of u and me, get it, ass u me, assume. hee



Jam	Nov 10 2008, 12:37 AM Post #87
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	neigh
	Long live Carolus


gooback	Nov 10 2008, 12:38 AM Post #88
Lieutenant Posts: 260 Group: Member Member #133 Joined: October 29, 2008	and just what is that supposed to mean??



Jam	Nov 10 2008, 12:39 AM Post #89
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	donkey sounds
	Long live Carolus


gooback	Nov 10 2008, 12:41 AM Post #90
Lieutenant Posts: 260 Group: Member Member #133 Joined: October 29, 2008	donkeys dont say neigh, horses do. Donkeys say aaaooooonhhhhhhh



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