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| Vondongo | Nov 21 2010, 08:44 PM Post #511 |
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Five and a half hours. Sitting there continuously and not moving around, with your eyes glued to the screen the whole time. I'd get bored and go do something else in about a quarter of that time. |
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| gs | Nov 21 2010, 08:49 PM Post #512 |
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try half i was watching six feet under whenever we weren't fighting (which was half the game), and i was eating during the fight as well |
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| Jack the IV | Nov 21 2010, 10:42 PM Post #513 |
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I think you forgot to eat your cereal :D And yea i ate supper and was playin some league of legends |
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| gs | Nov 22 2010, 12:03 AM Post #514 |
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i didn't forget, i took a bite like every 10 min 21 |
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| The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom | Nov 22 2010, 04:38 PM Post #515 |
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That's what I meant; when all your mosque technologies are researched, you don't have to spend thousands of food/wood/gold (Depending upon civilization) on replenishing your worker count after having your economy ruined by an enemy attack. |
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| gs | Nov 22 2010, 05:13 PM Post #516 |
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you said fastest... and mosque ups have nothing to do with cost. they're free either way |
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| The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom | Nov 23 2010, 11:01 AM Post #517 |
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Yes, fastest; 3,000 food to replace 30 villagers isn't gathered in an instant, and mosque technologies greatly increase the efficiency at which your town centres produce villagers, in addition to increasing the villager population cap. The base speed at which ottoman villagers spawn is agonisingly slow, and designed to be balanced in the discovery and colonial ages... beyond that, you're disadvantaging yourself by not venturing into the mosque to research your unique techs. |
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| gs | Nov 23 2010, 03:04 PM Post #518 |
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believe me i do all the mosque ups asap, but we're talking about late game here, where everyone has near infinite resources. ottos are the slowest to rebuild their eco. (btw even if you start with limited res other civs are still faster) |
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| The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom | Nov 23 2010, 04:49 PM Post #519 |
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So if you have unlimited resources, why do you have villagers anyway; open up those pop slots :P |
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| gs | Nov 23 2010, 05:34 PM Post #520 |
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near infinite by that i mean 100k. you still need an eco |
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| The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom | Nov 24 2010, 10:50 AM Post #521 |
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100k is still plenty to survive upon for a while. You could train 1,000 musketeers with 100,000 units of resources. |
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| Jam | Nov 24 2010, 11:20 AM Post #522 |
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You could kill 1000 musketeers with less. |
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| Jack the IV | Nov 24 2010, 01:24 PM Post #523 |
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1k musks is nothing lol |
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| gs | Nov 24 2010, 02:45 PM Post #524 |
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which really isn't that many in late game. if your opponent has the same amount of res and an eco while you don't have an eco, there's no way you're gonna win that. |
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| The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom | Nov 24 2010, 03:40 PM Post #525 |
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Yeah but I'd prefer to have 200 musketeers at one time, and the capability to spam that same quantity five times over, rather than just ~140. |
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| gs | Nov 24 2010, 03:49 PM Post #526 |
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well who do you guess knows better  if i wanted to lose then yeah i would prefer that too. |
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| The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom | Nov 24 2010, 04:39 PM Post #527 |
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200 musks > 140. |
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| gs | Nov 24 2010, 05:13 PM Post #528 |
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lol are you serious i really need to explain this to you? yes 200 musks beat 140 but there won't be just 1 battle... you both will fight until one of you runs out of resources, and because your opponent is gathering the whole time while you're not, even with the military pop advantage you're not gonna be able to keep up. |
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| The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom | Nov 24 2010, 06:03 PM Post #529 |
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| The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom | Nov 24 2010, 06:04 PM Post #530 |
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Forum mechanic that automatically separates ellipses and punctuation marks kinda ruins it, oh well. |
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| MaxJ | Nov 24 2010, 06:12 PM Post #531 |
Wij van A414A adviseren A414A
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Andy you look quite fat. |
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Jouw wereld, jouw A414A forum. | |
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| The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom | Nov 24 2010, 06:25 PM Post #532 |
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Didn't know I was suddenly cartman ;_; |
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| Vondongo | Nov 27 2010, 03:17 AM Post #533 |
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In that situation you're right but that isn't always the case. Doing Russia in team games I'd intentionally slow my economy down to get a gigantic mass of strelets (closer to about 140-60 rather than 100 or less) despite not being able to make as many villagers. Of course this was when I was playing against the guy who thought that doing a fast industrial with Germans made him the best player ever, so it was kind of fun to be able to read his strategy and predict he'd do the same thing every game........and be right. |
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| gs | Nov 27 2010, 04:39 AM Post #534 |
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yeah maybe you would, but that's never actually a viable thing to do. |
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| The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom | Nov 27 2010, 04:54 AM Post #535 |
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It is in my world :D |
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| Vondongo | Nov 27 2010, 04:59 AM Post #536 |
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It is when you're trying to completely flood the opponent and harrass him and aging up for upgrades or Suvorov is basically handing extra time over for the German to lame Czapkas and cav-speed doppels everywhere. That and both of your partners are going cavalry and they love stopping when they've got the advantage so they can age up (despite the fact that the German is clearly going Indus and has no army yet). So why waste time? I got the food eco and map control to get a gigantic mass of infantry, and I'm not taking mines away from my partners or shipping gold. So why would I not make an army to pick up the slack? Again, that's buying the other guys time, especially the one who's doing fast industrial. |
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| gs | Nov 27 2010, 05:02 AM Post #537 |
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never said anything about aging up, but you should always be producing vills no matter what... the only exception is india's 10/10 rush. it's not like it would hurt your inf mass that much. i still don't understand why casual players can actually think they're right in a disagreement with an expert who has played this game actively since 2006. |
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| Ichigo1uk | Nov 27 2010, 05:06 AM Post #538 |
Huh?
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| The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom | Nov 27 2010, 09:09 AM Post #539 |
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Human ego dictates that the individual self is always correct. |
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| Vondongo | Nov 27 2010, 12:41 PM Post #540 |
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And when did I say anything about stopping villager production? I'm talking about having 40 villagers or some such already made (constantly, duh), a few population spots for another batch or two or three, and +140 strelets already out. The point of that being a factor of slowing my economy down is that if I age, going triple tc is out of the question because I've already got too many slots filled up, and because I just spent a huge amount of food that I could've apportioned out to food and gold to age. If you're not talking about aging, what are you suggesting? Sitting in colonial for the entire game? If I'm Russia and I want to get a sick eco out ASAP I'm going to go fort sooner rather than later (oblig, since that's the case with other civs too, but Russia benefits maybe the most of all when it hits fortress). But I'm avoiding doing that and making such a big army so that I can't go triple tcs, even if I aged up, as the price of getting such a large army on the field at once and completely overwhelming the opponent since he's trying to age/boom and get an army out and won't have much. By the way, when I get into discussion with a casual person about history, I don't lambast them regardless of what they say just because I have a history degree and they don't. I mean hey, I've disowned that thing before on this very board, but it still counts for something, right? One of those things it counts for not being arrogant just because I've got a shiny piece of paper. |
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