In God We Trust

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In God We Trust
Tweet Topic Started: Jul 30 2009, 07:12 PM (5,922 Views)
DragonLegend	Jul 30 2009, 07:12 PM Post #1
Field Marshal Posts: 15,575 Group: Member Member #40 Joined: January 19, 2008	Would it satisfy Atheists if the national motto was changed to ''In God We Trust As Long As He Actually Exists''?



Jam	Jul 30 2009, 07:41 PM Post #2
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	I don't think that many atheist give a shit about the national motto.
	Long live Carolus


Vondongo	Jul 30 2009, 07:56 PM Post #3
Moo. Posts: 5,434 Group: Member Member #130 Joined: October 15, 2008	HOLY CRAP SHUT UP ABOUT ATHEISTS AND RELIGION.



Jam	Jul 30 2009, 08:02 PM Post #4
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	AND POLITICS
	Long live Carolus


Vondongo	Jul 30 2009, 08:04 PM Post #5
Moo. Posts: 5,434 Group: Member Member #130 Joined: October 15, 2008	THAT TOO. Erm...yeah, I'm not one to call people trolls and accuse them of this or that, but you really keep trying to egg on argument with everyone, Dragon. Know why I don't discuss religion at this board or most other boards? Because it never goes anywhere. It either ends up as an "agree to disagree" or drags on eternally.



Incog	Jul 30 2009, 08:49 PM Post #6
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	Isn't it obvious teh national motto sucks?
	Black tulip Tribute to the the greatest of the great.


_Saladin_	Jul 30 2009, 08:54 PM Post #7
Major Bullshit Posts: 2,763 Group: A414A Member Member #28 Joined: January 1, 2008	It shouldn't be there in the first place, but who the fuck cares anyways? I'm not gonna stop saying omg or god damnit. Edited by _Saladin_, Jul 30 2009, 09:00 PM.



Supervizor	Jul 30 2009, 08:56 PM Post #8
Major Posts: 1,483 Group: Member Member #79 Joined: June 5, 2008	dude, ur slogan says " oh my godess, it' s a saladin" :D



_Saladin_	Jul 30 2009, 09:01 PM Post #9
Major Bullshit Posts: 2,763 Group: A414A Member Member #28 Joined: January 1, 2008	My goddess and I are currently going through tough times, we're still working it out.



DarkAngel	Jul 30 2009, 09:18 PM Post #10
Captain Posts: 501 Group: A414A Member Member #160 Joined: June 16, 2009	Rather "In pizza we trust"



Goodsbee	Jul 31 2009, 12:25 AM Post #11
life is grand :) Posts: 5,199 Group: A414A Member Member #105 Joined: July 20, 2008	X 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.5!



Big Richard	Jul 31 2009, 04:45 AM Post #12
Gay People Read This. Posts: 5,323 Group: World's Finest Member #113 Joined: July 26, 2008	i just dont say it



The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Jul 31 2009, 05:38 AM Post #13
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	I don't care.
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


DragonLegend	Jul 31 2009, 02:05 PM Post #14
Field Marshal Posts: 15,575 Group: Member Member #40 Joined: January 19, 2008	Actually, Red, this thread was meant as a joke. Sarcasm, anyone? And Sal, every one knows of the Atheist movement to change the national motto. USA Today: Quote: The Freedom From Religion Foundation, a Wisconsin-based church-state watchdog group, claimed the engravings are unconstitutional and would exclude the 15% of Americans who identify themselves as non-religious� Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., who sponsored the bill in the Senate, said historical references to God should not be censored for political correctness. �The Founders based the Constitution and our laws on religious faith and principles that clear the way for individual freedom,� he said in a statement. �Our true motto, �In God We Trust,� expresses this fact, and we cannot allow a whitewash of America�s religious heritage.� However, Gaylor said the mottos are inaccurate since �In God We Trust� and the insertion of �under God� into the Pledge of Allegiance were adopted in the 1950s as anti-communist measures. �They wanted this up there because they think God is the foundation of our government,� Gaylor said. �Boy, are they misinformed.�



The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Jul 31 2009, 02:25 PM Post #15
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	Not all atheists have nothing to do in their lives but to cause trouble.
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


Big Richard	Jul 31 2009, 05:07 PM Post #16
Gay People Read This. Posts: 5,323 Group: World's Finest Member #113 Joined: July 26, 2008	actually many founding fathers weren't religious and were actually somewhat against it, the country was founded on seperation of church and state so it should be removed. that's what I believe but 85% of Americans wont agree



Incog	Jul 31 2009, 05:24 PM Post #17
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	Redemption, check PM.
	Black tulip Tribute to the the greatest of the great.


DragonLegend	Jul 31 2009, 05:26 PM Post #18
Field Marshal Posts: 15,575 Group: Member Member #40 Joined: January 19, 2008	Every single one of the founding fathers was a devout Christian. What are you talking about? Read the Constitution and Decleration of Independance; they're all filled with Christian stuff, including Bible quotes. Read this. You might not like the source, but the article is basically comprised of quotes.



_Saladin_	Jul 31 2009, 06:26 PM Post #19
Major Bullshit Posts: 2,763 Group: A414A Member Member #28 Joined: January 1, 2008	Yah, that summed it up pretty well: Quote: Our Founding Fathers wrote the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." QED, next topic.



DaOoof	Aug 1 2009, 12:00 AM Post #20
? Posts: 1,347 Group: A414A Member Member #20 Joined: December 23, 2007	In God Some of us Trust :P



The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Aug 1 2009, 12:09 AM Post #21
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	YES make that the motto.
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


Big Richard	Aug 1 2009, 02:28 AM Post #22
Gay People Read This. Posts: 5,323 Group: World's Finest Member #113 Joined: July 26, 2008	dragon, are you insane? devout christians? LOL



DragonLegend	Aug 2 2009, 01:13 PM Post #23
Field Marshal Posts: 15,575 Group: Member Member #40 Joined: January 19, 2008	_Saladin_ Jul 31 2009, 06:26 PM Yah, that summed it up pretty well: Quote: Our Founding Fathers wrote the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." QED, next topic. In what alternate universe does that prove the Founding Fathers weren't religious? And Richard, you need to stop reading those Freemason alien conspiracy theories. EDIT: Sal, if you're talking about the national motto, well then...the question remains. How does the First Amendment prohibit the government from putting the word "God" in the national motto, especially since the overwhelming majority of Americans were (at the time) and still are Christian? Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists et al don't object. The only people who do are the Atheists, and the rule of the minority over the majority is not how American democracy works. Edited by DragonLegend, Aug 2 2009, 01:17 PM.



The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Aug 2 2009, 01:58 PM Post #24
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	DragonLegend Aug 2 2009, 01:13 PM _Saladin_ Jul 31 2009, 06:26 PM Yah, that summed it up pretty well: Quote: Our Founding Fathers wrote the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." QED, next topic. In what alternate universe does that prove the Founding Fathers weren't religious? And Richard, you need to stop reading those Freemason alien conspiracy theories. EDIT: Sal, if you're talking about the national motto, well then...the question remains. How does the First Amendment prohibit the government from putting the word "God" in the national motto, especially since the overwhelming majority of Americans were (at the time) and still are Christian? Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists et al don't object. The only people who do are the Atheists, and the rule of the minority over the majority is not how American democracy works. Buy MSN, fool.
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


Big Richard	Aug 2 2009, 05:39 PM Post #25
Gay People Read This. Posts: 5,323 Group: World's Finest Member #113 Joined: July 26, 2008	thomas jefferson called religion stupid or something like that and many, and I mean many of the founding fathers were members of the freemason group including benjamin franklin, that is based on seperation of church from state



Big Richard	Aug 2 2009, 05:39 PM Post #26
Gay People Read This. Posts: 5,323 Group: World's Finest Member #113 Joined: July 26, 2008	its a fact, not a conspiracy I pity the fool



Germee	Aug 2 2009, 05:44 PM Post #27
luke, i am your mother Posts: 5,159 Group: Goddess Member #36 Joined: January 11, 2008	-yawn-
	Barry: I�m lookin� at your face and I just wanna smash it. I just wanna fuckin� smash it with a sledgehammer and squeeze it. You�re so pretty.


DragonLegend	Aug 2 2009, 05:45 PM Post #28
Field Marshal Posts: 15,575 Group: Member Member #40 Joined: January 19, 2008	Big Richard Aug 2 2009, 05:39 PM thomas jefferson called religion stupid or something like that and many, and I mean many of the founding fathers were members of the freemason group including benjamin franklin, that is based on seperation of church from state I'll just leave you with this: "God who gave us life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God?" - Thomas Jefferson I'm sure in an alternate universe, that means he thought God was stupid.



Jack the IV	Aug 2 2009, 05:46 PM Post #29
The Gent's Club Posts: 7,869 Group: Mr. Pink Member #43 Joined: February 19, 2008	I feel obligated to make it so no threads are unread but I hate this thread
	In battle, in the forest, at the precipice in the mountains, On the dark great sea, in the midst of javelins and arrows, In sleep, in confusion, in the depths of shame, The good deeds a man has done before defend him.


Goodsbee	Aug 2 2009, 05:47 PM Post #30
life is grand :) Posts: 5,199 Group: A414A Member Member #105 Joined: July 20, 2008	pwned!



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