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Topic Started: Jul 30 2009, 07:12 PM (5,930 Views)
DragonLegend
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"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries."

For crying out loud, listen to Winston!
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DarkAngel
Aug 13 2009, 09:07 PM
Indeed socialism doesn't work in America because of the 'values' you put in things there. And you being arrogant and selfish as well. BECAUSE YOU CANT LET THE MONEY GO. Indeed, you pay VERY small taxes which you can just choose to not pay even.

Look at Finland. We pay 14-51%(yes, you didn't misread) taxes, but we have totally free healthcare, schools and stuff. We also get money from the state if we don't have a job or are kicked out. Different bonuses from childbonus to pensions from that 14%. We got top students and listen mainstream to metal music. What more can you ask for?

And that all with about 30% of the people voting for different socialist parties.

So stfu about things you have no clue of and have never experianced yourself please. You American kids.
I actually have no problem with socialism if done in a country where it can be pulled off. But the U.S. isn't it. Our demographics are different, our mindsets are different, our population is too big, and the country is too disparate. Socialism works great in Northern Europe because your populations are much smaller and are far closer to being homogenous than ours. Welfare--just as an example here--doesn't work in our country because most people who collect it are lazy and contribute nothing to our country's growth other than population. If someone works hard every day and they're injured and can't work--yeah, I'd support a system for that. But that's not how it is here. At all.

Too bad you're too condescending to appreciate the differences between our countries.
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Even when I tried to end that your feelings were hurt so you started continuing the discussion.


My feelings were hurt? Really? I wasn't the one to say something like this now, did I...?

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and redemption, just because we're talking through computers doesn't mean you don't have to show respect, you know, especially because the person on the other side of the screen is human. So if we ever meet up, I'll make sure we meet and bring a friend and then just completely ignore you and talk to my friend the entire time, but seeing how much fun it is here, you'll have no problem with that right?


I'm sorry if I offended you, but man. This just smacks of trying to get attention. There's just no other way of interpereting that.

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besides you talk about my logic whereas I had a very good point in that post. I didn't talk about internet rules, I just talked about common sense and knowing how to use something. Do you take a hammer to drill in a screw? No, so why use a forum to talk to one person.


I do know how to use a board, actually. To talk to people. Oh well, I talked to one person in several conversations. So hey, why do you care? Like I said before, other boards I post at, nobody cares if you only talk to one person, as long as you're talking and it's not breaking any rules.
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Yeah sorry Richard, but Redemption is painfully right.

I'm sorry, but turns out you were right, this is going nowhere. (sloothbie)

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Huh?
I'd say Adams beats Richard in a debate, but that'd be obvious anyways.
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Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM
I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
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What the hell are you talking about ichi, and I forgot to reply to this lol

the first thing you said doesn't make sense

and I wasn't trying to get attention when I said that, I was just putting another example of how you go to place you expect to talk to a collective group of people and only find conversations on two people, thats how activity dies down.

there's no rules, its just common sense
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You just wouldn't beat Adams.

You'd need a mental capacity of a brick to see through his debates.

E.g. your mind would blow up.
Incog
Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM
I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
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is someone deleteing my posts or something?
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by the way, dragon you told me to get my numbers right, how about this

United States religiosity
Religion Percent
Christianity   78.4%
No religion   16.1%
Judaism   1.7%
Buddhism   0.7%
Islam   0.6%
Hinduism   0.4%
Other   1.2%


According to a 2007 survey,the following is the order of religious preferences in the United States:

Christianity: (78.4%)
Protestantism (51.3%)
Roman Catholicism (23.9%)
LDS (1.7%)
Jehovah's Witness (0.7%)
Orthodox Church (0.6%)
other Christian (0.3%)
no religion (16.1%)
Judaism (1.7%)
Buddhist (0.7%)
Islam (0.6%)
Hinduism (0.4%)
other (1.2%)


http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_prac2.htm
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Edited by DarkAngel, Aug 14 2009, 07:50 AM.
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Aug 14 2009, 08:44 AM
your sig pwns btw.
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Big Richard
Aug 14 2009, 04:14 AM
by the way, dragon you told me to get my numbers right, how about this

United States religiosity
Religion Percent
Christianity   78.4%
No religion   16.1%
Judaism   1.7%
Buddhism   0.7%
Islam   0.6%
Hinduism   0.4%
Other   1.2%


According to a 2007 survey,the following is the order of religious preferences in the United States:

Christianity: (78.4%)
Protestantism (51.3%)
Roman Catholicism (23.9%)
LDS (1.7%)
Jehovah's Witness (0.7%)
Orthodox Church (0.6%)
other Christian (0.3%)
no religion (16.1%)
Judaism (1.7%)
Buddhist (0.7%)
Islam (0.6%)
Hinduism (0.4%)
other (1.2%)


http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_prac2.htm
That's great and all, but I don't see how it makes irreligious people a majority. Maybe you were responding to the "%5 Atheists" part? Still, it doesn't change anything.
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What it changes is how people look at you, a hypocrite.

and I showed that to show you how its not 90% christian, and the funny thing is the # of christians is dropping heavily each year, last year or I think a few years back it was 84% then it dropped to 78%. They predicted that by like 2050 the number of non-religious people in america would out number the number of Christians if this slope continues. But whats wierd is the fastest growing religion in America is wicca rofl
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When did I say %90 of Americans are Christian?

And these polls are highly inaccurate. You don't interview a few people and then go around saying all 300 million Americans share their views.
Edited by DragonLegend, Aug 14 2009, 08:26 PM.
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religion is a fad richard ;/
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Aug 10 2009, 10:30 PM
Religious music is "personal" too. I listen to it for entertainment purposes. I have no problem with Hindu, Buddhist, irreligious or Jewish (or any other religion) music being broadcasted on the radio. If I don't like it, I'll just change the station.

You're not making any sense. You want religion banned from all public places? You need to grow up. %90 of Americans are religious, they have no problem with religious music on the radio, and last time I checked, this is a democracy, where the minority doesn't control the majority. Sorry, bubba. If you don't like it, you can always go live in Atheist Cuba, China or North Korea. ;)
right here, you didn't say christian but you said religious
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you got your information from wikipedia, dragon, which highly uncredible and the poll they took counts atheism as a religion having 14%. So if you remove that from the 90% religious it would be alot less religious people than 90%
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DragonLegend
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%90, %81.8 - Big difference!
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Big Richard
Aug 14 2009, 08:54 PM
atheism as a religion
hahahahahahahahaa
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DragonLegend
Aug 14 2009, 08:55 PM
%90, %81.8 - Big difference!
Doesn't matter what the difference is. You used a statistic that's incorrect.
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I was off by %8. I didn't bother to waste 5-10 minutes looking for the exact number, but I knew it was something close to %90.

Even if it was %70, it still wouldn't change the fact that religious people are a huge majority.
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DragonLegend
Aug 14 2009, 08:55 PM
%90, %81.8 - Big difference!
yes it is a big difference when you're talking about a country with 300 million people, that 10% difference is millions of people.
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DragonLegend
Aug 14 2009, 09:13 PM
I was off by %8. I didn't bother to waste 5-10 minutes looking for the exact number, but I knew it was something close to %90.

Even if it was %70, it still wouldn't change the fact that religious people are a huge majority.
no it doesn't, the point is you're a hypocrite because I was off by 1000 soldiers in the death statistic of Iraq, you made a big deal, now you're saying 8% is not a big deal. nice job
Edited by Big Richard, Aug 14 2009, 09:18 PM.
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DragonLegend
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1000 is pretty big when discussing the Iraq war death toll; 1000 is 1/4 the actual number. On the other hand, the difference between %90 and %81 isn't so big; a mere %8
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Aug 14 2009, 08:20 PM
religion is a fad richard ;/
Incy, every time I've talked with you you've displayed beliefs common to the particular form of New Atheism. I believe in a religion that goes back for thousands of years, developed in liturgy and literature, defined more precicesly every year, yet true to it's early self. If anything is a fad.....
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Percentages are skewed because you interview a few thousand, than magnify it to millions. They're usefull, but innacurate.
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Heaney it is rather uncalled for to bring my name into this.
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Aug 14 2009, 09:17 PM
DragonLegend
Aug 14 2009, 08:55 PM
%90, %81.8 - Big difference!
yes it is a big difference when you're talking about a country with 300 million people, that 10% difference is millions of people.
Like I said, these polls are not accurate. They interview a thousand people and then claim that all 300 million Americans share the same beliefs.
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