You know, if people don't like a certain song on the radio, they can just turn it off.
I don't see the point of doing something as drastic as repressing (call it whatever you want) religion just to please a tiny minority. I know plenty of Atheists, Agnostics and other irreligious people who aren't obsessed with banning religion from Western culture. You people need to get a life and start worrying about things that actually matter, like socialized medicine, cap-n-trade, national security or Middle-Eastern wars instead of fretting about the national motto or Christmas.
Idc about either the national motto or xmas. Nor do I care for all of these dumb politics you keep bringing up.
You know, if people don't like a certain song on the radio, they can just turn it off.
I don't see the point of doing something as drastic as repressing (call it whatever you want) religion just to please a tiny minority. I know plenty of Atheists, Agnostics and other irreligious people who aren't obsessed with banning religion from Western culture. You people need to get a life and start worrying about things that actually matter, like socialized medicine, cap-n-trade, national security or Middle-Eastern wars instead of fretting about the national motto or Christmas.
Idc about either the national motto or xmas. Nor do I care for all of these dumb politics you keep bringing up.
yes because first its the radio then its school then its everywhere, you have to draw the line somewhere. I respect their holidays because only the people who do celebrate christmas do it, whereas on radio its public and not everyone who listens to radio is christian so they dont want to hear that shit, now everyone who's not christian has to either listen to that horrible crap or turn off the radio? How bout keep that shit to yourself and others like you and dont spread it everywhere
What? You don't like Christian songs, so they should be banned? Well, I don't like rap or hip-hop, does that mean they shouldn't be broadcasted on the radio?
yes because first its the radio then its school then its everywhere, you have to draw the line somewhere. I respect their holidays because only the people who do celebrate christmas do it, whereas on radio its public and not everyone who listens to radio is christian so they dont want to hear that shit, now everyone who's not christian has to either listen to that horrible crap or turn off the radio? How bout keep that shit to yourself and others like you and dont spread it everywhere
What? You don't like Christian songs, so they should be banned? Well, I don't like rap or hip-hop, does that mean they shouldn't be broadcasted on the radio?
they shouldn't be put on radio because if one religious song is on radio, then every song from every religion should be aswell. rap and hip hop is not about personal beliefs and stuff its just music (and good too) where as religious music is very personal which shouldn't be played on a public thing like radio
Religious music is "personal" too. I listen to it for entertainment purposes. I have no problem with Hindu, Buddhist, irreligious or Jewish (or any other religion) music being broadcasted on the radio. If I don't like it, I'll just change the station.
You're not making any sense. You want religion banned from all public places? You need to grow up. %90 of Americans are religious, they have no problem with religious music on the radio, and last time I checked, this is a democracy, where the minority doesn't control the majority. Sorry, bubba. If you don't like it, you can always go live in Atheist Cuba, China or North Korea.
yes because first its the radio then its school then its everywhere, you have to draw the line somewhere. I respect their holidays because only the people who do celebrate christmas do it, whereas on radio its public and not everyone who listens to radio is christian so they dont want to hear that shit, now everyone who's not christian has to either listen to that horrible crap or turn off the radio? How bout keep that shit to yourself and others like you and dont spread it everywhere
What? You don't like Christian songs, so they should be banned? Well, I don't like rap or hip-hop, does that mean they shouldn't be broadcasted on the radio?
they shouldn't be put on radio because if one religious song is on radio, then every song from every religion should be aswell. rap and hip hop is not about personal beliefs and stuff its just music (and good too) where as religious music is very personal which shouldn't be played on a public thing like radio
Radio stations pay money for the music that they play, in order to attract listeners, and from that, advertisers. As I said, I don't like the commercialization of religious music, but if there's a market for religious music, why can't they buy the rights to play said music?
Religious music is "personal" too. I listen to it for entertainment purposes. I have no problem with Hindu, Buddhist, irreligious or Jewish (or any other religion) music being broadcasted on the radio. If I don't like it, I'll just change the station.
You're not making any sense. You want religion banned from all public places? You need to grow up. %90 of Americans are religious, they have no problem with religious music on the radio, and last time I checked, this is a democracy, where the minority doesn't control the majority. Sorry, bubba. If you don't like it, you can always go live in Atheist Cuba, China or North Korea.
find me exactly where I said that. if you can't find me saying that word for word then stfu and stop making assumptions to make me look like some crazy old cat lady
I said religious music is personal...thanks for restating. and when I mean religious music I mean christian music, which is the only religious music they play on radio. In a country where you are allowed freedom of religion, this is like a knife.
If they only endorse christian music by playing it on the radio, then that would mean freedom of religion would be like America saying "90% of us are christians, but you're allowed to belive in other things too" which would mean America is a christian country which it is not. Even if the majority are christian, that does not mean they should allow only christian music on radio. Do you ever hear muslim music on radio?
Minority over majority is for politics, music is not politics. If you're going to be a douche and overuse that term and apply it to everything then why dont we bring our troops home, since 72% of the soldiers want out, and 53% of americans want no war. Ooo but now it doesn't apply right? Gtfo.
Yes because the NHS is the pioneer in Communist ideals.
Incog
Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM
I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
Yes because the NHS is the pioneer in Communist ideals.
@ dragon: oh no! medicine for everyone! We can't have that in a country that states everyone is equal, especially since we can't make money off sick people any more!
How bout keep that shit to yourself and others like you and dont spread it everywhere
not everyone is a repressed asshole that takes shits on baby animals and steals little children ice cream.
Like i said before, most of America is christian, you are a minority, minorities count for shit.
Incog
Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM
I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
How bout keep that shit to yourself and others like you and dont spread it everywhere
not everyone is a self repressed asshole that takes shits on baby animals and steals little children ice cream.
Like i said before, most of America is christian, you are a minority, minorities count for shit.
ok so, majority of america is white too, so fuck all the niggers and negras right?
majority of america wanted bush out of office after 2nd term...did it happen? no.
most of america wants the war over...did it happen? No.
Two things:
1. It was never supposed to be a democracy, the founding fathers wanted a republic which is different 2. Majority rules is the most overused statement in America, this was only applied to the Senate and congress where they talk about laws and politics, not whether christian songs should be played on radio
If majority rules for everything in America, why did women get rights, and blacks too?
find me exactly where I said that. if you can't find me saying that word for word then stfu and stop making assumptions to make me look like some crazy old cat lady
You want radio stations not to broadcast religious music and you don't want anything like "national jesus day." Seems to me you don't want religion in public places, regardless of what %90 of Americans think.
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I said religious music is personal
Yeah, I'm gonna need you to explain what you mean by "personal."
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and when I mean religious music I mean christian music, which is the only religious music they play on radio.
Are you kidding me? Are you seriously telling me that, in the entire country, there is not one single radio station that broadcasts, say, Hindu music? What about the numerous Atheist pop/rap songs? Should they be banned, too?
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In a country where you are allowed freedom of religion, this is like a knife.
Freedom of religion is the liberty to practice your faith without the government telling you not to. Freedom of religion does not mean the ban of religious music; that's repression of religion.
And it's the radio stations that decide which songs to play. There's a thing called freedom of speech in America, which basically means that people are free to play any songs they want.
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If they only endorse christian music by playing it on the radio, then that would mean freedom of religion would be like America saying "90% of us are christians, but you're allowed to belive in other things too" which would mean America is a christian country which it is not.
That's not what freedom of religion is. Read my previous point.
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Even if the majority are christian, that does not mean they should allow only christian music on radio.
What the hell are you talking about? Hindu and Buddhist music is broadcasted on radio stations all the time.
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Minority over majority is for politics, music is not politics.
Music? What are you talking about? Are you saying people shouldn't have the right to play religious music? How the hell does that make any sense? Whatever happened to freedom of speech? You're obviously one of those lunatics who would love it if they could ban all religion.
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f you're going to be a douche and overuse that term and apply it to everything then why dont we bring our troops home, since 72% of the soldiers want out, and 53% of americans want no war. Ooo but now it doesn't apply right? Gtfo.
Dummy, that's foreign policy. We're talking social issues here. We're talking freedom of speech and freedom of religion.
The song is about how America is everywhere and tries to police everyone, well if you notice all the places they are at, there are many other different cultures, and the point is we have to respect that, not shove the majority's stuff into everyone's face and say "listen to it or leave"
ok so, majority of america is white too, so fuck all the niggers and negras right?
majority of america wanted bush out of office after 2nd term...did it happen? no.
most of america wants the war over...did it happen? No.
Two things:
1. It was never supposed to be a democracy, the founding fathers wanted a republic which is different 2. Majority rules is the most overused statement in America, this was only applied to the Senate and congress where they talk about laws and politics, not whether christian songs should be played on radio
If majority rules for everything in America, why did women get rights, and blacks too?
Ok,America is comprised of repressed assholes that takes shits on baby animals and steals little children's ice creams.
Like i said before, Most of America is repressed assholes, you are a repressed asshole, Repressed assholes do count for shit.
Happy?
Incog
Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM
I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
not shove the majority's stuff into everyone's face and say "listen to it or leave"
By "majority stuff" you don't mean Nuclear Holocaust, do you?
Incog
Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM
I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
find me exactly where I said that. if you can't find me saying that word for word then stfu and stop making assumptions to make me look like some crazy old cat lady
You want radio stations not to broadcast religious music and you don't want anything like "national jesus day." Seems to me you don't want religion in public places, regardless of what %90 of Americans think.
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I said religious music is personal
Yeah, I'm gonna need you to explain what you mean by "personal."
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and when I mean religious music I mean christian music, which is the only religious music they play on radio.
Are you kidding me? Are you seriously telling me that, in the entire country, there is not one single radio station that broadcasts, say, Hindu music? What about the numerous Atheist pop/rap songs? Should they be banned, too?
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In a country where you are allowed freedom of religion, this is like a knife.
Freedom of religion is the liberty to practice your faith without the government telling you not to. Freedom of religion does not mean the ban of religious music; that's repression of religion.
And it's the radio stations that decide which songs to play. There's a thing called freedom of speech in America, which basically means that people are free to play any songs they want.
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If they only endorse christian music by playing it on the radio, then that would mean freedom of religion would be like America saying "90% of us are christians, but you're allowed to belive in other things too" which would mean America is a christian country which it is not.
That's not what freedom of religion is. Read my previous point.
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Even if the majority are christian, that does not mean they should allow only christian music on radio.
What the hell are you talking about? Hindu and Buddhist music is broadcasted on radio stations all the time.
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Minority over majority is for politics, music is not politics.
Music? What are you talking about? Are you saying people shouldn't have the right to play religious music? How the hell does that make any sense? Whatever happened to freedom of speech? You're obviously one of those lunatics who would love it if they could ban all religion.
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f you're going to be a douche and overuse that term and apply it to everything then why dont we bring our troops home, since 72% of the soldiers want out, and 53% of americans want no war. Ooo but now it doesn't apply right? Gtfo.
Dummy, that's foreign policy. We're talking social issues here. We're talking freedom of speech and freedom of religion.
Oh whats that? you didn't find where I said I wanted to ban religion in all public places, but it seems like I do? mmm assumptions taste good
Personal as in, if thats your faith then exercise it somewhere where everyone is christian, not just the majority, because that shames the minority.
Athiest pop/rap songs? wtf are you talking about they never play things like that on radio. If there's hindu music then I challenge you to find music broadcasted of at least 10 religions or so, and if you can't, then like I said, if only a few are going to be played, then none should be played.
Freedom of religion would include athiesm, and if you play christian songs non-stop, or have religion in the pledge of allegiance or something, then thats oppression of religion, my interpretation of freedom of religion is that if for example you're muslim or something and you're offended by a major radio station playing christian music, then you can actually do something about it. Last I checked, constitution is open for interpretation
Freedom of speech also means I can speak out against christian or religious songs. It goes both ways so that argument is nullified.
People have the right to play religious music, but in all my life I've never heard a radio station in america playing some muslim song or something. But I've listened to tons and tons of christian songs on radio, and I'm not talking some station no body has heard about, I'm talking major stations. I've never said they can't play religious music, I said they can't play only christian songs, and IF they're only playing christian songs THEN no songs can be played. moar assumptions please
but I thought majority rules over minority all the time like you and ichi seem to think.
Oh whats that? you didn't find where I said I wanted to ban religion in all public places, but it seems like I do? mmm assumptions taste good
Unless your Jesus, Buddha ,Allah ,God or aliens from another planet i doubt you are without assumptions.
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Personal as in, if thats your faith then exercise it somewhere where everyone is christian, not just the majority, because that shames the minority.
90% christian, i'd say that pretty much everywhere, unless they round you 10% into a cupboard or something.
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Athiest pop/rap songs? wtf are you talking about they never play things like that on radio. If there's hindu music then I challenge you to find music broadcasted of at least 10 religions or so, and if you can't, then like I said, if only a few are going to be played, then none should be played.
Just because you don't know they exist does not mean they don't exist, Mr assumption.
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Freedom of religion would include athiesm, and if you play christian songs non-stop, or have religion in the pledge of allegiance or something, then thats oppression of religion, my interpretation of freedom of religion is that if for example you're muslim or something and you're offended by a major radio station playing christian music, then you can actually do something about it. Last I checked, constitution is open for interpretation
Atheism isn't a religion.
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Freedom of speech also means I can speak out against christian or religious songs. It goes both ways so that argument is nullified.
From what your saying Atheism > Freedom of Speech, your kinda deluded.
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People have the right to play religious music, but in all my life I've never heard a radio station in america playing some muslim song or something. But I've listened to tons and tons of christian songs on radio, and I'm not talking some station no body has heard about, I'm talking major stations. I've never said they can't play religious music, I said they can't play only christian songs, and IF they're only playing christian songs THEN no songs can be played. moar assumptions please
People have the right to play religious music except for christian. quit being a "repressed asshole" when you make assumptions too.
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but I thought majority rules over minority all the time like you and ichi seem to think.
The majority while being the majority is divided so to speak, some act some don't.
Incog
Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM
I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
anyone who doesn't support only a few religious songs being played instead of all or none is an asshole?
Did you just say that i called people who "dont" want religious music played in media and people that "do" want religious music played in the media "assholes"
but the people in between not?
Because i didn't type that, you have.
P.s. That's an assumption retard ^.^
Incog
Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM
I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
Well if there's not, why should the radio station pay money to play that kind of music?
If people aren't going to listen to it, it won't get advertisers interested in the station, which will cause a loss of money for the station itself.
There are thousands of radio stations.
Incog
Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM
I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
Well if there's not, why should the radio station pay money to play that kind of music?
If people aren't going to listen to it, it won't get advertisers interested in the station, which will cause a loss of money for the station itself.
There are thousands of radio stations.
Well sure, but most radio stations (I mean ones that aren't funded by the government), like other enterprises, have one big goal in mind: making money.
If anything inhibits them from doing so, why engage in such an action?
Well if there's not, why should the radio station pay money to play that kind of music?
If people aren't going to listen to it, it won't get advertisers interested in the station, which will cause a loss of money for the station itself.
There are thousands of radio stations.
Well sure, but most radio stations (I mean ones that aren't funded by the government), like other enterprises, have one big goal in mind: making money.
If anything inhibits them from doing so, why engage in such an action?
Communities.
Incog
Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM
I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
Oh whats that? you didn't find where I said I wanted to ban religion in all public places, but it seems like I do? mmm assumptions taste good
Unless your Jesus, Buddha ,Allah ,God or aliens from another planet i doubt you are without assumptions.
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Personal as in, if thats your faith then exercise it somewhere where everyone is christian, not just the majority, because that shames the minority.
90% christian, i'd say that pretty much everywhere, unless they round you 10% into a cupboard or something.
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Athiest pop/rap songs? wtf are you talking about they never play things like that on radio. If there's hindu music then I challenge you to find music broadcasted of at least 10 religions or so, and if you can't, then like I said, if only a few are going to be played, then none should be played.
Just because you don't know they exist does not mean they don't exist, Mr assumption.
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Freedom of religion would include athiesm, and if you play christian songs non-stop, or have religion in the pledge of allegiance or something, then thats oppression of religion, my interpretation of freedom of religion is that if for example you're muslim or something and you're offended by a major radio station playing christian music, then you can actually do something about it. Last I checked, constitution is open for interpretation
Atheism isn't a religion.
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Freedom of speech also means I can speak out against christian or religious songs. It goes both ways so that argument is nullified.
From what your saying Atheism > Freedom of Speech, your kinda deluded.
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People have the right to play religious music, but in all my life I've never heard a radio station in america playing some muslim song or something. But I've listened to tons and tons of christian songs on radio, and I'm not talking some station no body has heard about, I'm talking major stations. I've never said they can't play religious music, I said they can't play only christian songs, and IF they're only playing christian songs THEN no songs can be played. moar assumptions please
People have the right to play religious music except for christian. quit being a "repressed asshole" when you make assumptions too.
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but I thought majority rules over minority all the time like you and ichi seem to think.
The majority while being the majority is divided so to speak, some act some don't.
what the hell does that have to do with this?
since when is 90% , 100%?
I didn't say they dont exist, and if you think atheism is not a religion then "atheist pop/rap songs" dont count as religious songs, Mr. Hypocrite
athiesm is either the belief that god does not exist, or the lack of belief in god, for me it is the first so I consider it a religion
How the fuck does that mean Atheism > Freedom of speech? you guys are bitching because I said I dont like christian songs being on radio when there aren't other religious ones, that was me exercising freedom of speech, and you guys say they have a right to play that music because it is freedom of speech, thats why they counteract each other and mean nothing. Also I dont know how this got into only music, but besides radio, christianity is everywhere in America, including our pledge of allegiance, which is enough to make the "freedom of religion" thing a joke.
reread what I wrote
Does the last thing you said make any sense? I dont think it does, clear that up
Well if there's not, why should the radio station pay money to play that kind of music?
If people aren't going to listen to it, it won't get advertisers interested in the station, which will cause a loss of money for the station itself.
There are thousands of radio stations.
Well sure, but most radio stations (I mean ones that aren't funded by the government), like other enterprises, have one big goal in mind: making money.
If anything inhibits them from doing so, why engage in such an action?
Communities.
What communities?
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