anyone who doesn't support only a few religious songs being played instead of all or none is an asshole?
Did you just say that i called people who "dont" want religious music played in media and people that "do" want religious music played in the media "assholes"
but the people in between not?
Because i didn't type that, you have.
P.s. That's an assumption retard ^.^
are you dislexic or something? do you know how to read? you called me an asshole because I believe that "IF ONLY A FEW RELIGION'S SONGS ARE GOING TO BE PLAYED, THEN NONE SHOULD BE PLAYED."
here you go again blowing shit out of context, when I said assumptions I meant that dragon was sayin shit that I didn't say to make me look like an extremist. I didn't say anything you didn't say, you called me an asshole because of what I believed, and since there are others that believe the same, that would be calling all of them assholes
read it slower if your head starts to hurt, you prick
You basically said you don't make assumptions, the names i threw in for free and they have a lot to do with this.
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since when is 90% , 100%?
How is 90% separated from the 10% physically, otherwise that 90% is everywhere.
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I didn't say they dont exist, and if you think atheism is not a religion then "atheist pop/rap songs" dont count as religious songs, Mr. Hypocrite
Wrong person Mr, Retard
athiesm is either the belief that god does not exist, or the lack of belief in god, for me it is the first so I consider it a religion
You considering something it's a religion is different from it actually being a religion. I believe Scientology is a cult while other believe it's a religion (Scientologists?)
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How the fuck does that mean Atheism > Freedom of speech? you guys are bitching because I said I dont like christian songs being on radio when there aren't other religious ones, that was me exercising freedom of speech, and you guys say they have a right to play that music because it is freedom of speech, thats why they counteract each other and mean nothing. Also I dont know how this got into only music, but besides radio, christianity is everywhere in America, including our pledge of allegiance, which is enough to make the "freedom of religion" thing a joke.
Your saying that they counteract each other meaning it's OK to have christian songs and atheist songs (even if there are no atheist songs, quit bitching and go make some.) Then you say to ban christian songs or limit them. which is counteracting your previous statement retard >_>
Also the 90% Christianity in America is INTERTWINED With the 10% non christian meaning it's everywhere.
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reread what I wrote
Get some reading classes cause i know you can't read and you also have a terrible memory to boot (Atheist rap thing)
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Does the last thing you said make any sense? I don't think it does, clear that up
My "assumption" of you being a retard hits me again, it's like a plank of wood hitting me in the face with the words "Richards a retard, Give up all hope" written across it...
THE MAJORITY DOESN'T ACT AS ONE. Some choose to act while others don't. I wonder if we should get a specialist or something for you.
Well if there's not, why should the radio station pay money to play that kind of music?
If people aren't going to listen to it, it won't get advertisers interested in the station, which will cause a loss of money for the station itself.
There are thousands of radio stations.
Well sure, but most radio stations (I mean ones that aren't funded by the government), like other enterprises, have one big goal in mind: making money.
If anything inhibits them from doing so, why engage in such an action?
Communities.
What communities?
I'm guessing Muslim communities
Incog
Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM
I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
are you dislexic or something? do you know how to read? you called me an asshole because I believe that "IF ONLY A FEW RELIGION'S SONGS ARE GOING TO BE PLAYED, THEN NONE SHOULD BE PLAYED."
I lol'd. anyways if you want you "religious"/"belief" type song to be heard on the radio.
1. write some fucking songs for it first. Ain't other religions faults for having something to sing about.
"There ain't no god, we live a meaningless life" ain't the words of hit singles.
2. Get a radio station
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here you go again blowing shit out of context, when I said assumptions I meant that dragon was sayin shit that I didn't say to make me look like an extremist. I didn't say anything you didn't say, you called me an asshole because of what I believed, and since there are others that believe the same, that would be calling all of them assholes
and anyone who doesn't support only a few religious songs being played instead of all or none is an asshole?
That's what you said right, which was probably in response to the repressed assholes bit, in which case your in idiot and oblivious to "taking the piss"
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read it slower if your head starts to hurt, you prick
I dunno whether to send you a mirror have you look into it and let you say that again, or to just lol and point to the thread.
I'm sleepy, make sure to read it once, then again and then get some glass and read it five more times just to make sure.
I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
Well if there's not, why should the radio station pay money to play that kind of music?
If people aren't going to listen to it, it won't get advertisers interested in the station, which will cause a loss of money for the station itself.
There are thousands of radio stations.
Well sure, but most radio stations (I mean ones that aren't funded by the government), like other enterprises, have one big goal in mind: making money.
If anything inhibits them from doing so, why engage in such an action?
Communities.
What communities?
I'm guessing Muslim communities
But they're not going to create a station for those communities if there's no financial benefit to doing so. I already stated that, if there's no market, then why would they create a station to cater to a nonexistent market?
You basically said you don't make assumptions, the names i threw in for free and they have a lot to do with this.
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since when is 90% , 100%?
How is 90% separated from the 10% physically, otherwise that 90% is everywhere.
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I didn't say they dont exist, and if you think atheism is not a religion then "atheist pop/rap songs" dont count as religious songs, Mr. Hypocrite
Wrong person Mr, Retard
athiesm is either the belief that god does not exist, or the lack of belief in god, for me it is the first so I consider it a religion
You considering something it's a religion is different from it actually being a religion. I believe Scientology is a cult while other believe it's a religion (Scientologists?)
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How the fuck does that mean Atheism > Freedom of speech? you guys are bitching because I said I dont like christian songs being on radio when there aren't other religious ones, that was me exercising freedom of speech, and you guys say they have a right to play that music because it is freedom of speech, thats why they counteract each other and mean nothing. Also I dont know how this got into only music, but besides radio, christianity is everywhere in America, including our pledge of allegiance, which is enough to make the "freedom of religion" thing a joke.
Your saying that they counteract each other meaning it's OK to have christian songs and atheist songs (even if there are no atheist songs, quit bitching and go make some.) Then you say to ban christian songs or limit them. which is counteracting your previous statement retard >_>
Also the 90% Christianity in America is INTERTWINED With the 10% non christian meaning it's everywhere.
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reread what I wrote
Get some reading classes cause i know you can't read and you also have a terrible memory to boot (Atheist rap thing)
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Does the last thing you said make any sense? I don't think it does, clear that up
My "assumption" of you being a retard hits me again, it's like a plank of wood hitting me in the face with the words "Richards a retard, Give up all hope" written across it...
THE MAJORITY DOESN'T ACT AS ONE. Some choose to act while others don't. I wonder if we should get a specialist or something for you.
rofl I dont even know why I'm wasting my time but ok
I basically said I dont make assumptions? How is that even possible, I didn't say that.
you said: "90% christian, i'd say that pretty much everywhere, unless they round you 10% into a cupboard or something." And that counteracts with what I'm talking about, I'm saying you can't ignore the minority
you said: "Just because you don't know they exist does not mean they don't exist, Mr assumption." You said that when I said there aren't any athiest songs, then you said this: "Atheism isn't a religion. " Which would prove that they dont exist, showing how hypocritical you are.
A religion is a belief that one follows his life upon, you dont have to worship something in order for it to be a religion. I believe god doesn't exist--I'm athiest, and this is considered a religion.
No I'm not comparing atheism to freedom of speech at all. What I said was, if you're going to make the argument that christians have the right to play their music DUE TO free speech, then I will make the opposite argument that compleletly nullifies yours which is, athiests have the right to speak against christians songs being/ predominately on the radio if they aren't other religious songs on the radio.
I never said ban christian songs ffs, its not a hard concept to understand: if you're going to have religious songs on radio, you have to make sure you include all of them, if you're not goin to include all of them, then none should be broadcasted.
that intertwined shit you're going on about has nothing to do with what i said, 90% out of 100% of america is not everywhere, its the majority, not the total.
the majority doesn't act as one? ok great, now what the fuck is your point? Majority rules over minority is only SUPPOSED to be present in politics, but dickless jack-offs like you bring it into everything.
Your saying that they counteract each other meaning it's OK to have christian songs and atheist songs (even if there are no atheist songs, quit bitching and go make some.)
are you dislexic or something? do you know how to read? you called me an asshole because I believe that "IF ONLY A FEW RELIGION'S SONGS ARE GOING TO BE PLAYED, THEN NONE SHOULD BE PLAYED."
I lol'd anyways if you want you "religious"/"belief" type song to be heard on the radio.
1. write some fucking songs for it first. Ain't other religions faults for having something to sing about.
"There ain't no god, we live a meaningless life" ain't the words of hit singles.
2. Get a radio station
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here you go again blowing shit out of context, when I said assumptions I meant that dragon was sayin shit that I didn't say to make me look like an extremist. I didn't say anything you didn't say, you called me an asshole because of what I believed, and since there are others that believe the same, that would be calling all of them assholes
and anyone who doesn't support only a few religious songs being played instead of all or none is an asshole?
That's what you said right, which was probably in response to the repressed assholes bit, in which case your in idiot and oblivious to "taking the piss"
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read it slower if your head starts to hurt, you prick
I dunno whether to send you a mirror have you look into it and let you say that again, or to just lol and point to the thread.
I'm sleepy, make sure to read it once, then again and then get some glass and read it five more times just to make sure.
mmmmm moar assumptions
I lol'd
that would be implying that atheism IS a religion which you said it is not, oh god the irony
or maybe you dont understand that you're generalizing, also I love how you have nothing good to say but just make fun of me
Oh whats that? you didn't find where I said I wanted to ban religion in all public places, but it seems like I do? mmm assumptions taste good
If you say so. I was just expressing my opinion, that you seemed to be one of the lunatics who want to ban religion from the West.
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Personal as in, if thats your faith then exercise it somewhere where everyone is christian, not just the majority, because that shames the minority.
How the hell is music a faith? What makes you think religious music is not for entertainment?
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Athiest pop/rap songs? wtf are you talking about they never play things like that on radio.
So what you're saying is, never in the history of this country has an irreligious song been broadcasted on the radio?
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If there's hindu music then I challenge you to find music broadcasted of at least 10 religions or so
I already linked you to at least a dozen radio stations that play Hindu music.
Name the other 9 religions.
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and if you can't, then like I said, if only a few are going to be played, then none should be played.
That makes no sense. Radio stations are free to play any song they want.
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Freedom of religion would include athiesm
Actually, Atheism is not a religion.
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and if you play christian songs non-stop
Radio stations are free to play any song they want! What part of that do you not understand?
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or have religion in the pledge of allegiance or something, then thats oppression of religion
How in the name of Lord Vader is it oppression of religion?
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my interpretation of freedom of religion is that if for example you're muslim or something and you're offended by a major radio station playing christian music, then you can actually do something about it.
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Tell you what, I'm offended by all music broadcasted on the radio. Does that mean all music should be banned from being broadcasted on the radio?
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Last I checked, constitution is open for interpretation
By the Supreme Court, which, for some reason, has not ruled that Christian music is anti-Constitutional.
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Freedom of speech also means I can speak out against christian or religious songs.
Speak your heart out, you're free to do that, but that doesn't mean that whining and complaining is going to achieve anything.
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People have the right to play religious music, but in all my life I've never heard a radio station in america playing some muslim song or something.
I'm sure there are many stations that broadcast Islamic music. And it's not like many people in America would actually listen to it, since it's mostly in Arabic, and there are less than 4 million Muslims in America, the majority of whom don't speak Arabic, so I don't see why anyone would waste any time and money on Islamic music in America. It'd be like trying to sell Scotch in Saudi Arabia; no one would buy it.
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But I've listened to tons and tons of christian songs on radio, and I'm not talking some station no body has heard about, I'm talking major stations. I've never said they can't play religious music, I said they can't play only christian songs, and IF they're only playing christian songs THEN no songs can be played.
Maybe it's because Christian music is better and has more support (meaning people like it) than, say, Islamic music? Again, it's the non-government-owned radio stations that decide which songs to play.
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but I thought majority rules over minority all the time like you and ichi seem to think.
When did I say that? Looks like Mr. Assumption's gotten to you, too.
The song is about how America is everywhere and tries to police everyone, well if you notice all the places they are at, there are many other different cultures, and the point is we have to respect that, not shove the majority's stuff into everyone's face and say "listen to it or leave"
Ich leibe Deutsch musik!!
In battle, in the forest, at the precipice in the mountains, On the dark great sea, in the midst of javelins and arrows, In sleep, in confusion, in the depths of shame, The good deeds a man has done before defend him.
Personal as in, if thats your faith then exercise it somewhere where everyone is christian, not just the majority, because that shames the minority.
How the hell is music a faith? What makes you think religious music is not for entertainment?
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Athiest pop/rap songs? wtf are you talking about they never play things like that on radio.
So what you're saying is, never in the history of this country has an irreligious song been broadcasted on the radio?
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If there's hindu music then I challenge you to find music broadcasted of at least 10 religions or so
I already linked you to at least a dozen radio stations that play Hindu music.
Name the other 9 religions.
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and if you can't, then like I said, if only a few are going to be played, then none should be played.
That makes no sense. Radio stations are free to play any song they want.
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Freedom of religion would include athiesm
Actually, Atheism is not a religion.
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and if you play christian songs non-stop
Radio stations are free to play any song they want! What part of that do you not understand?
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or have religion in the pledge of allegiance or something, then thats oppression of religion
How in the name of Lord Vader is it oppression of religion?
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my interpretation of freedom of religion is that if for example you're muslim or something and you're offended by a major radio station playing christian music, then you can actually do something about it.
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Tell you what, I'm offended by all music broadcasted on the radio. Does that mean all music should be banned from being broadcasted on the radio?
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Last I checked, constitution is open for interpretation
By the Supreme Court, which, for some reason, has not ruled that Christian music is anti-Constitutional.
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Freedom of speech also means I can speak out against christian or religious songs.
Speak your heart out, you're free to do that, but that doesn't mean that whining and complaining is going to achieve anything.
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People have the right to play religious music, but in all my life I've never heard a radio station in america playing some muslim song or something.
I'm sure there are many stations that broadcast Islamic music. And it's not like many people in America would actually listen to it, since it's mostly in Arabic, and there are less than 4 million Muslims in America, the majority of whom don't speak Arabic, so I don't see why anyone would waste any time and money on Islamic music in America. It'd be like trying to sell Scotch in Saudi Arabia; no one would buy it.
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But I've listened to tons and tons of christian songs on radio, and I'm not talking some station no body has heard about, I'm talking major stations. I've never said they can't play religious music, I said they can't play only christian songs, and IF they're only playing christian songs THEN no songs can be played.
Maybe it's because Christian music is better and has more support (meaning people like it) than, say, Islamic music? Again, it's the non-government-owned radio stations that decide which songs to play.
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but I thought majority rules over minority all the time like you and ichi seem to think.
When did I say that? Looks like Mr. Assumption's gotten to you, too.
omg you guys are hilarious
what are you, retarded? christian music is about christianity---which- suprise- is a faith. Religious music is for entertainment? really dragon?
Yes I'm saying that, now prove me wrong.
you can pick the religions since you're so good at finding them, like I said, pick any 10 religions
They are free to play what they want and I am free to make fun of whatever I want, so why are you guys arguing with me?
Oh nooooo, so now atheism isn't a religion, but didn't you just say that there are atheist songs played on radio, which by including it as one of your arguments against me saying christian songs are basically the majority of songs played on radio, would imply that you believe it is a religion.
Way to cut off my sentence and put it in a quote so you can repeat yourself
Because the pledge of allegiance is something all people are encouraged/and or sometimes forced to say, and the fact that it includes "god" as in the christian belief 'god" then it shames the minority -- oppression of religion
ok the main reason christian songs shouldn't be played on radio is not because people are offended, but the fact that it is the majority of what is played on radio, whereas there's little to none of any other religion. But if you're offended, freedom of speech allows you to make a petition wanting all music to ban all music. Wont get far though.
did I ever say that I thought "man if I keep saying this is ridiculous they'll do something" ? no, i didn't, I only expressed my opinion and you guys fired at me
there you go again, the majority, well the majority of people in America speak english, so why does every company waste resources writing everything in english AND spanish in america?
christian music being better than islamic music is pure opinion, the more support thing you mentioned is still about majority. Am I ordering the radio stations to take down all religious music? no because I know that'll never happen, I'm merely suggesting my ideas, and I believe sal said the same thing as me.
You mention constantly in your responses "the majority doesn't want this, so why would they do it" and any human being on this planet will understand that you're saying majority rules over minority. besides I'm pretty sure I read that you wrote it blatantly, "this is a democracy, and majoirty rules" i dont remember.
Religious music is "personal" too. I listen to it for entertainment purposes. I have no problem with Hindu, Buddhist, irreligious or Jewish (or any other religion) music being broadcasted on the radio. If I don't like it, I'll just change the station.
You're not making any sense. You want religion banned from all public places? You need to grow up. %90 of Americans are religious, they have no problem with religious music on the radio, and last time I checked, this is a democracy, where the minority doesn't control the majority. Sorry, bubba. If you don't like it, you can always go live in Atheist Cuba, China or North Korea.
Jam, I'm not saying Christmas presents are a representation of Christianity. Like I said, Christmas is a Christian holiday, and without it, there wouldn't be any Christmas presents. Analogy time: Let's assume America is Christianity, and American culture is Christmas. If America never existed, there wouldn't be an American culture.
And my whole point was, it's hypocritical to want to ban Christian songs on radio (something you don't like) while being A-OK with Christmas presents (something you like).
Christian songs are religious, Christmas presents are not. And btw, the only one who is against Christian radio here is Richard.
Saying christian radio shouldn't be broadcast is like saying churches should be torn down...
In battle, in the forest, at the precipice in the mountains, On the dark great sea, in the midst of javelins and arrows, In sleep, in confusion, in the depths of shame, The good deeds a man has done before defend him.
Saying christian radio shouldn't be broadcast is like saying churches should be torn down...
Like if there's going to be a church in my community then there has to be Buddhist temple, a synagogue, a mosque, a Hindu temple, a Shinto shrine, etc, even though the majority of those places of worship would just be dust collectors. You've got to have all the religious buildings or none at all.
no jam, churches are local things for certain communities, idc about that. but radio stations are nationwide, its a much different topic
Like how most radio stations are private businesses?
Or that the vast majority of radio stations that exist in the U.S. are local?
i dont think its local that plays religious music and anyway no one listens to radio these days so why are you still arguing, its my opinion that radio stations shouldn't play shit like that
no jam, churches are local things for certain communities, idc about that. but radio stations are nationwide, its a much different topic
Like how most radio stations are private businesses?
Or that the vast majority of radio stations that exist in the U.S. are local?
i dont think its local that plays religious music and anyway no one listens to radio these days so why are you still arguing, its my opinion that radio stations shouldn't play shit like that
Plenty of local stations play religious music. Driving through the southern part of this country, there's lots of radio stations that play religious stuff on them. But there's also a market for that, too, which makes it perfectly understandable.
Maybe you don't listen to the radio, but there's other people that do. And as long as there's people that do, then it can continue to thrive.
Hey, you're certainly entitled to your own opinion and I'm not going to knock you for that. But that doesn't mean that I can't argue against what you're stating simply for the logic that you use for it.
my logic is fine, but I also have a certain prejudice against religion that shows behind it.
in my opinion, religion has slowed man kind down ever since the dawn of it. In some ways it inspired it - such as music or architecture, but in advancement of understanding or technology, it certainly hasn't. There's a reason that the time that the power of the church was strongest was known as the dark ages.
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