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Incog	Sep 5 2009, 12:39 PM Post #481
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	Precisely. But what the Luftwaffe's goal should have been: pound the British airfields in southern England. If they had done that (they nearly did, before they went for London, which was a tactical mistake; and a big one), Britain's fighter force would have been crippled, and with it, Britain's air superiority over the English Channel. And if Britain lost that, they would have lost the war. Germany needed air supremacy over the Channel to invade Britain. 2 or 3 more days of bombing RAF airfields, and they would have gotten that AS they needed. And they could have invaded, which would have closed one of the fronts of the war, which in turn would have permitted Hitler to focus completely on the USSR. Britain fought bravely over the Channel in the Battle for Britain, but what really saved Britain from Invasion, and perhaps any allied chance to retaliate in Europe at all, was Hitler's decision to stop bombing the airfields and start bombing London. MANY of Hitler's decisions like that helped the Allies more than the Axis. I believe the reasoning behind bombing London was because an RAF raid got lost and dropped bombs on Berlin; by MISTAKE. It was an incredible piece of luck for the Allies, more than they would have thought. That raid changed the outcome of the war. It's scary actually how much it changed. All in all, to be noted, having Air Supremacy on the battlefield will give you a blistering advantage over the enemy, so the Air Force is of extreme importance.
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The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Sep 5 2009, 12:47 PM Post #482
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	Hmm ic
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The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Sep 5 2009, 12:49 PM Post #483
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	Quote: But what the Luftwaffe's goal should have been: pound the British airfields in southern England. True, but I think Hitler's goal was to cripple the country's production and defeat morale in order to make an invasion easier.
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


Incog	Sep 5 2009, 12:54 PM Post #484
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	It's a dumb decision either way, Germany's industry, weaponry, army, morale (they had just invaded half of Europe lulz) were all MUCH better than Britain's at the time, so he didn't need to attack British morale or industry. What he really needed was AS to be able to invade, Britain would have snapped like a twig if Germany could establish a beachhead. Bad choice.
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The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Sep 5 2009, 01:19 PM Post #485
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	I have no choice but to agree with you. Hitler and his generals weren't exactly the best strategists. There's a reason why they lost Stalingrad.
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


Incog	Sep 5 2009, 01:24 PM Post #486
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	Hitler* Rommel was a genius.
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The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Sep 5 2009, 01:26 PM Post #487
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	Dunno 'bout that. Never learned much about him. He designed the Atlantic Wall, right?
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Incog	Sep 5 2009, 01:28 PM Post #488
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	Yea, but he needed moar resources and Hitler's intervention fucked things up again or something. I'm not as sharp about the war on the ground than I am about what happened up in the sky. I know that Rommel fruiting owned in Afrika or something.
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The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Sep 5 2009, 01:29 PM Post #489
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	Yeah he was in Africa, but nobody ever seems to talk about the conflict there. The Italians failed epically there.
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


Incog	Sep 5 2009, 01:30 PM Post #490
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	I think so indeed.
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gs	Sep 5 2009, 01:35 PM Post #491
Slow down Posts: 16,297 Group: Animals Member #1 Joined: December 12, 2007	Germee Sep 5 2009, 10:13 AM this is the first time i don't feel the impulse to type up long essays about history no one cares about. :D



Ichigo1uk	Sep 5 2009, 02:53 PM Post #492
Huh? Posts: 9,838 Group: A414A Member Member #10 Joined: December 14, 2007	Rommel set up the Atlantic wall, he was a Genius. But the allies led the Germans month before D-day that they would attack Norway and Calais and turned German agents to double cross the Germans and reinforce this phantom attack on Norway and Calais. Allies - 1 Million Strong Nazi's - 380,000 strong. Edited by Ichigo1uk, Sep 5 2009, 02:54 PM.
	Incog Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.


Jack the IV	Sep 5 2009, 03:50 PM Post #493
The Gent's Club Posts: 7,869 Group: Mr. Pink Member #43 Joined: February 19, 2008	Ultra-Musketeer Sep 5 2009, 01:29 PM Yeah he was in Africa, but nobody ever seems to talk about the conflict there. The Italians failed epically there. Bicycle cavalry ftw!
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Big Richard	Sep 5 2009, 04:07 PM Post #494
Gay People Read This. Posts: 5,323 Group: World's Finest Member #113 Joined: July 26, 2008	I lol'd at "over manned" the fuck is that, there's no such thing, only under equipped. also Max I said they bombed airfields not industry, so the map and shit was unneccessary, but going with what incog said, Churchill basically turned the tide of the war, there was a massive air raid that hitler ordered to bomb a crucial british air field that was absolutely neccessary for Britains survival, and the raid was going to attack at night, so Churchill got like the best magicians (yes, magicians) and illusionists and prop designers to build a fony airfield with lights and all that, it was so convincing the germans bombed the hell out of the stage props instead of the airfield. It was an ingenious plan tbh and saved Britains future. Also, Max Europe could've won but there'd be nothing left, and Russia would just mop up the ruins and make everything in Europe a sattelite country. I don't really consider that a victory, but techically yes they could've. The main reason they lost was because Hitler was no military genius, only a propaganda expert. Anyway ultra, if you didn't know Japan was in dire need of natural resources at the time for its rapidly growing industry, so they went on for conquest, took half of China, and then they turned to some islands south I forget which but it was something important to the U.S. like a supplier or an ally and they knew the U.S. would intervene so they performed a premptive strike.



Ichigo1uk	Sep 5 2009, 06:04 PM Post #495
Huh? Posts: 9,838 Group: A414A Member Member #10 Joined: December 14, 2007	Big Richard Sep 5 2009, 04:07 PM Anyway ultra, if you didn't know Japan was in dire need of natural resources at the time for its rapidly growing industry, so they went on for conquest, took half of China, and then they turned to some islands south I forget which but it was something important to the U.S. like a supplier or an ally and they knew the U.S. would intervene so they performed a premptive strike. The Aussies. And the US had a Trade Embargo on the japs, cutting off like 90% of there oil.
	Incog Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.


The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Sep 5 2009, 06:18 PM Post #496
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	Quote: I lol'd at "over manned" the fuck is that, there's no such thing, only under equipped. What I mean is they had a lot of man power to use, which is how they managed to out produce the Germans Quote: Anyway ultra, if you didn't know Japan was in dire need of natural resources at the time for its rapidly growing industry, so they went on for conquest, took half of China, and then they turned to some islands south I forget which but it was something important to the U.S. like a supplier or an ally and they knew the U.S. would intervene so they performed a premptive strike. Yeah, kus America intervened when Britain got bombed.
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


Incog	Sep 5 2009, 06:39 PM Post #497
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	Big Richard Sep 5 2009, 04:07 PM I lol'd at "over manned" the fuck is that, there's no such thing, only under equipped. also Max I said they bombed airfields not industry, so the map and shit was unneccessary, but going with what incog said, Churchill basically turned the tide of the war, there was a massive air raid that hitler ordered to bomb a crucial british air field that was absolutely neccessary for Britains survival, and the raid was going to attack at night, so Churchill got like the best magicians (yes, magicians) and illusionists and prop designers to build a fony airfield with lights and all that, it was so convincing the germans bombed the hell out of the stage props instead of the airfield. It was an ingenious plan tbh and saved Britains future. Also, Max Europe could've won but there'd be nothing left, and Russia would just mop up the ruins and make everything in Europe a sattelite country. I don't really consider that a victory, but techically yes they could've. The main reason they lost was because Hitler was no military genius, only a propaganda expert. Anyway ultra, if you didn't know Japan was in dire need of natural resources at the time for its rapidly growing industry, so they went on for conquest, took half of China, and then they turned to some islands south I forget which but it was something important to the U.S. like a supplier or an ally and they knew the U.S. would intervene so they performed a premptive strike. Hitler's decision to bomb london was what turned the tide, not Churchill.
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Ichigo1uk	Sep 5 2009, 06:44 PM Post #498
Huh? Posts: 9,838 Group: A414A Member Member #10 Joined: December 14, 2007	Incy Sep 5 2009, 06:39 PM Hitler's decision to bomb london was what turned the tide, not Churchill. Morale is as important as equipment.
	Incog Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.


Jam	Sep 5 2009, 07:06 PM Post #499
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	Ichigo1uk Sep 5 2009, 06:04 PM Big Richard Sep 5 2009, 04:07 PM Anyway ultra, if you didn't know Japan was in dire need of natural resources at the time for its rapidly growing industry, so they went on for conquest, took half of China, and then they turned to some islands south I forget which but it was something important to the U.S. like a supplier or an ally and they knew the U.S. would intervene so they performed a premptive strike. The Aussies. And the US had a Trade Embargo on the japs, cutting off like 90% of there oil. Not Australia, the Philippines.
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Jam	Sep 5 2009, 07:08 PM Post #500
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	Ichigo1uk Sep 5 2009, 06:44 PM Incy Sep 5 2009, 06:39 PM Hitler's decision to bomb london was what turned the tide, not Churchill. Morale is as important as equipment. An soldier that believes he will lose can still fire his rifle, a soldier without his rifle knows he's going to lose.
	Long live Carolus


Jam	Sep 5 2009, 07:10 PM Post #501
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	The blitz was designed to scare Britain into backing out of the war by scaring the people. Hitler actually wanted to ally with Britain is possible.
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Vondongo	Sep 5 2009, 07:11 PM Post #502
Moo. Posts: 5,434 Group: Member Member #130 Joined: October 15, 2008	Hitler was also terrified of having to go to war with the U.S., too. He was REALLY trying to keep us out, which was working. Till Japan jumped the gun.



Ichigo1uk	Sep 5 2009, 09:22 PM Post #503
Huh? Posts: 9,838 Group: A414A Member Member #10 Joined: December 14, 2007	Hyperactive Jam Sep 5 2009, 07:06 PM Ichigo1uk Sep 5 2009, 06:04 PM Big Richard Sep 5 2009, 04:07 PM Anyway ultra, if you didn't know Japan was in dire need of natural resources at the time for its rapidly growing industry, so they went on for conquest, took half of China, and then they turned to some islands south I forget which but it was something important to the U.S. like a supplier or an ally and they knew the U.S. would intervene so they performed a premptive strike. The Aussies. And the US had a Trade Embargo on the japs, cutting off like 90% of there oil. Not Australia, the Philippines. Nevertheless they were closing in on the Aussies. And even if he can physically shoot it that's not the case. He's more likely to desert or go berserk.
	Incog Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.


Ichigo1uk	Sep 5 2009, 09:24 PM Post #504
Huh? Posts: 9,838 Group: A414A Member Member #10 Joined: December 14, 2007	Hyperactive Jam Sep 5 2009, 07:10 PM The blitz was designed to scare Britain into backing out of the war by scaring the people. Hitler actually wanted to ally with Britain is possible. I watched an interesting show called Hitler's Britain revealing what the Nazi's would of faced if they had invaded. Tbh Britain is not an easy place to invade.
	Incog Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.


Big Richard	Sep 5 2009, 10:31 PM Post #505
Gay People Read This. Posts: 5,323 Group: World's Finest Member #113 Joined: July 26, 2008	Ultra-Musketeer Sep 5 2009, 06:18 PM Quote: I lol'd at "over manned" the fuck is that, there's no such thing, only under equipped. What I mean is they had a lot of man power to use, which is how they managed to out produce the Germans Quote: Anyway ultra, if you didn't know Japan was in dire need of natural resources at the time for its rapidly growing industry, so they went on for conquest, took half of China, and then they turned to some islands south I forget which but it was something important to the U.S. like a supplier or an ally and they knew the U.S. would intervene so they performed a premptive strike. Yeah, kus America intervened when Britain got bombed. you don't produce man power, and russia wasn't the most industrial at the time, otherwise it would've had enough guns that the soldiers wouldn't of had to share... also what? lol? im not even talking about britain. and incog, we're talking about two different things that happened at two different times



Ichigo1uk	Sep 5 2009, 10:51 PM Post #506
Huh? Posts: 9,838 Group: A414A Member Member #10 Joined: December 14, 2007	Big Richard Sep 5 2009, 10:31 PM you don't produce man power You do in Company of Heroes.
	Incog Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.


Big Richard	Sep 5 2009, 11:10 PM Post #507
Gay People Read This. Posts: 5,323 Group: World's Finest Member #113 Joined: July 26, 2008	thats a good rts



Ichigo1uk	Sep 5 2009, 11:13 PM Post #508
Huh? Posts: 9,838 Group: A414A Member Member #10 Joined: December 14, 2007	Big Richard Sep 5 2009, 11:10 PM thats a good rts inorite
	Incog Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.


Ichigo1uk	Sep 5 2009, 11:14 PM Post #509
Huh? Posts: 9,838 Group: A414A Member Member #10 Joined: December 14, 2007	Ichigo1uk Sep 5 2009, 11:13 PM Big Richard Sep 5 2009, 11:10 PM thats a good rts inorite FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
	Incog Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.


The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Sep 6 2009, 03:47 PM Post #510
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	Big Richard Sep 5 2009, 10:31 PM Ultra-Musketeer Sep 5 2009, 06:18 PM Quote: I lol'd at "over manned" the fuck is that, there's no such thing, only under equipped. What I mean is they had a lot of man power to use, which is how they managed to out produce the Germans Quote: Anyway ultra, if you didn't know Japan was in dire need of natural resources at the time for its rapidly growing industry, so they went on for conquest, took half of China, and then they turned to some islands south I forget which but it was something important to the U.S. like a supplier or an ally and they knew the U.S. would intervene so they performed a premptive strike. Yeah, kus America intervened when Britain got bombed. you don't produce man power, and russia wasn't the most industrial at the time, otherwise it would've had enough guns that the soldiers wouldn't of had to share... also what? lol? im not even talking about britain. and incog, we're talking about two different things that happened at two different times You're fucking kidding me, Russia invaded Germany with more than four times as much equipment as their enemies.
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


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