Lion vs 40 midgets

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Who wins?
Lion	5 (38.5%)
40 midgets	8 (61.5%)
Total Votes: 13

Lion vs 40 midgets
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Incog	Sep 2 2009, 11:24 AM Post #1
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	So who wins iyo? :D Rules: * Fight takes place between 1 full-grown, male African lion and 40 midgets * The midgets are unarmed (no guns, baseball bats, tasers, etc.) * The fight takes place in a closed arena (a racquetball court for example) * Fight is over when either a) the lion is dead, or b) all 40 midgets are dead or unable to fight back (severely wounded) * Lion is highly agitated, midgets know there's no way out until the lion is dead (they have to fight) * The midgets are not specially trained to fight (not like the Cambodian fighting ones in the article) but are in average physical and mental health * The midgets are given 5 minutes before the fight to prepare/strategize Ofc this is very unethical, but it is an interesting discussion. Please vote and elaborate your reasoning very seriously. I will disclose my opinion (already have one) when there are a few responses.
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The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Sep 2 2009, 11:27 AM Post #2
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	The midgets would all pounce on the lion at the same time, crushing the poor creature.
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Incog	Sep 2 2009, 11:27 AM Post #3
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	I disagree. >: (
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JohnFrusciante	Sep 2 2009, 11:44 AM Post #4
Captain Posts: 728 Group: A414A Member Member #168 Joined: June 24, 2009	If the midgets have a well micro, they'd win.



gs	Sep 2 2009, 01:50 PM Post #5
Slow down Posts: 16,297 Group: Animals Member #1 Joined: December 12, 2007	how small are the midgets



ryker	Sep 2 2009, 01:58 PM Post #6
General Posts: 4,961 Group: A414A Member Member #134 Joined: December 1, 2008	there are alot of factors like gs said, if its a bunch of 2-3 foot midgets, they get raped, if they are up to 4 ft they might win.
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The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Sep 2 2009, 02:00 PM Post #7
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	yeah, but dude, there's forty of 'em...
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ryker	Sep 2 2009, 02:01 PM Post #8
General Posts: 4,961 Group: A414A Member Member #134 Joined: December 1, 2008	i have balls bigger than some midgets though.... if they are all 2-3 foot midgets, the lion could walk with that little weight on its back.
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The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Sep 2 2009, 02:02 PM Post #9
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	Dude, forty, not fourteen, and most certainly not frotyyghsh. A lion would probably handle 15 or 20, but 40 would just overwhelm it.
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ryker	Sep 2 2009, 02:04 PM Post #10
General Posts: 4,961 Group: A414A Member Member #134 Joined: December 1, 2008	not to mention he could suffocate them by shitting on them
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The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Sep 2 2009, 02:05 PM Post #11
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	Um, no. Edited by The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom, Sep 2 2009, 02:06 PM.
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ryker	Sep 2 2009, 02:06 PM Post #12
General Posts: 4,961 Group: A414A Member Member #134 Joined: December 1, 2008	no dude if he squat and shit, there goes 5, another 10 die when he falls over on them when they jump on him. anoter 2-3 with each paw, another one 2-3 with his mouth. so 40-5-10-2-2-2-2-2=15,
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Jack the IV	Sep 2 2009, 02:10 PM Post #13
The Gent's Club Posts: 7,869 Group: Mr. Pink Member #43 Joined: February 19, 2008	Lion wins, duh.
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The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Sep 2 2009, 02:14 PM Post #14
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	ryker Sep 2 2009, 02:06 PM no dude if he squat and shit, there goes 5, another 10 die when he falls over on them when they jump on him. anoter 2-3 with each paw, another one 2-3 with his mouth. so 40-5-10-2-2-2-2-2=15, Can you even count, or are you as retarded as a retard? Ten midgets would be hellas hard work for a lion. Midgets aren't ant-sized... ten midgets would equal the approximate strength of four men, who would have the ability to wrestle and strangle a lion to death.
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ryker	Sep 2 2009, 02:21 PM Post #15
General Posts: 4,961 Group: A414A Member Member #134 Joined: December 1, 2008	dude, 4 grown men would probably not win... think if the lion got ahold of ONE of them, then it makes it that much harder, and then the lion gets ahold of another and another.... havent you heard of two lions in africa that killedl ike half a village?
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The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Sep 2 2009, 02:28 PM Post #16
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	Yeah, with villagers running away in fear. Lions can't, "Grab,' people, as they have paws, not hands. They could hold someone in their mouth, but then they would no longer have their teeth to fight with.
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ryker	Sep 2 2009, 02:33 PM Post #17
General Posts: 4,961 Group: A414A Member Member #134 Joined: December 1, 2008	dude have u ever seen a lion up close? if one of those paws batted u, it would nock u out, let alone the scratch marks from the claws!
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The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Sep 2 2009, 02:40 PM Post #18
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	For the nemean lion, perhaps.
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ryker	Sep 2 2009, 02:48 PM Post #19
General Posts: 4,961 Group: A414A Member Member #134 Joined: December 1, 2008	that lion would pawn...
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gs	Sep 2 2009, 03:32 PM Post #20
Slow down Posts: 16,297 Group: Animals Member #1 Joined: December 12, 2007	tbh it doesnt matter how big the midgets are, there's nothing they can do... what can they do bite the lion?? rofl, the lion would rape them it would just take a little time because theres 40 ;P



MaxJ	Sep 2 2009, 03:47 PM Post #21
Wij van A414A adviseren A414A Posts: 9,339 Group: Moderator Member #58 Joined: April 21, 2008	I'm almost sure the midgets will win. A group of 10 grown up can handle a lion(lions don't have a v�ry good condition) so 40 midgets will win. Crocodils, elephants and hippos are much and much more dangerous, a lion is okay.
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Jam	Sep 2 2009, 05:26 PM Post #22
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	Crush the lion's testicles and smash it repeatedly in the back of the neck, crush the trachea? Thats about all I can think of that the midgets could do. Anyways, 40 doesn't matter because not all 40 can attack at once, only about 10 could attack at once.
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Incog	Sep 2 2009, 05:29 PM Post #23
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	the lion clearly wins: I will prove it soon.
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Incog	Sep 2 2009, 05:35 PM Post #24
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	Well let's consider that one swipe from the lion's paws kills/disables one midget: ie 40 swipes, the lion wins. Knowing that with each swipe, the chances of the lion losing diminishes, as the mass effect the midget has is destroyed: Let's say that a lion can do one paw swipe per second, even tho that the lion doesn't do fast swipes (as a tiger would), but slower, albeit much more powerful swipes.. even though the lion is capable of using both front paws and "boxing" quickly. Ie, in 40 seconds, the lion would have won, if he can effectively swipe all midgets. BUT, within 10 seconds, 25% of the midgets mass is already disabled, so the mass effect is already diminished, which further increases the chance of lion's success. The midget's best chance is to surround the lion extremely quickly, because if the fight wears on, they will lose. However to surround the lion is problematic, because the lion is a big tough creature, so while the midgets could surround it, the only "soft spot" is the face. 40 midgets can't get to the face at the same time, and the mane does a very good job protecting the neck and the surrounding face. The only way to hurt the lion is go face to face...and only a limited number of midgets can do that. The lion has a clear advantage as the worst place to be fighting the lion is in front of its mouth and paws. UNLESS... ...the midgets go for the lions balls. That is the only other weak spot that the midgets could potentially harm. But indeed, do midgets have enough strength to kick the lion's balls? Those balls are high up and there is the lion's tail to protect them. Getting to those balls would be very hard, even for a full grown man... midgets won't get to it. The lion has a considerable advantage. If that doesn't suffice to protect its balls, note that this is a confined area, and vs the mass effect the lion will (instinct) want to flee. Since it cannot, it will back up vs the wall and fight there. This is where the lion will be the most ferocious. A lion could flee in the savannah, if the lion knows there's no way out, it will fight to death. And a lion fighting to death is an extremely...I repeat.. extremely dangerous creature. After this intense and intelligent simulation and thought, the lion is the clear victor. The midgets cannot do anything. Furthermore, if you question the lion's stamina: The lion could easily keep it up for a while, you don't take into account that it is cornered... a wounded and tired animal that is cornered is much more dangerous than a healthy one in open space. I'm pretty sure that a lion can keep fighting for hours on end (please prove me wrong, as I'm not 100% sure), and if the midgets do nothing, the lion isn't tiring. If the midgets do something, they will get killed/injured/disabled. I'm pretty sure the lion wins this. Especially if it has its back to a wall, which it will have in this situation. Quote: so you're assuming every midget stands there and lets the lion swipe at its head? lolz No, I'm assuming they try to do something. Put it this way, if 40 midgets start dancing around the lion, what are the chances that not one of them gets touched by the lion? Extremely slim, all you have to do is look at how fast the lion is. Furthermore, not all midgets could attack at the same time, decreasing the mass effect they could have: Quoted from wiki: Quote: The prey usually is killed by strangulation,[65] which can cause cerebral ischemia or asphyxia (which results in hypoxemic, or "general," hypoxia). The prey also may be killed by the lion enclosing the animal's mouth and nostrils in its jaws[4] (which would also result in asphyxia). Smaller prey, though, may simply be killed by a swipe of a lion's paw.[4] The prey consists mainly of large mammals, with a preference for wildebeest, impalas, zebras, buffalo, and warthogs in Africa and nilgai, wild boar, and several deer species in India. Many other species are hunted, based on availability. Mainly this will include ungulates weighing between 50 and 300 kg (110�660 lb) such as kudu, hartebeest, gemsbok, and eland.[4] Occasionally, they take relatively small species such as Thomson's Gazelle or springbok. Lions living near the Namib coast feed extensively on seals.[66] Lions hunting in groups are capable of taking down most animals, even healthy adults, but in most parts of their range they rarely attack very large prey such as fully grown male giraffes due to the danger of injury. Small prey is something that weighs less than 50 kg. That's about the weight of a midget. Knowing that one swipe will kill smaller prey, it will easily disable a midget (~50 kg). Quote: Park guides in the area reported that the lions, driven by extreme hunger, started taking down baby elephants, and then moved on to adolescents and, occasionally, fully grown adults during the night when elephants' vision is poor. Also note that lions, when facing extreme hunger, ie death, are capable of doing insane things to live...the lion will fight to complete exhaustion, and I'm pretty sure that 40 midgets or not, the lion will kill every single one of them for its life. Regardless of its "poor" stamina. Note that midgets probably don't have better stamina than the lion.
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ryker	Sep 2 2009, 05:35 PM Post #25
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Jam	Sep 2 2009, 05:46 PM Post #26
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	Incy Sep 2 2009, 05:35 PM ...the midgets go for the lions balls. That is the only other weak spot that the midgets could potentially harm. But indeed, do midgets have enough strength to kick the lion's balls? Those balls are high up and there is the lion's tail to protect them. Getting to those balls would be very hard, even for a full grown man... I have a problem with this part. Strong enough? It doesn't take much, balls are very sensitive, and you don't have to kick them as midgets are small enough to just grab. The tail is not that powerful, and the lion can't see behind itself when its swiping midgets in front of it. Its sort of like flanking the lion. There is also the possibility of the midgets holding down the hind legs, get two midgets to twist a leg outwards and push down, they'd be able to hold it for some time. but yes the lion would win.
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ryker	Sep 2 2009, 06:08 PM Post #27
General Posts: 4,961 Group: A414A Member Member #134 Joined: December 1, 2008	the lion would go apeshit if someone grabbed them
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Incog	Sep 2 2009, 07:05 PM Post #28
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	Hyperactive Jam Sep 2 2009, 05:46 PM Incy Sep 2 2009, 05:35 PM ...the midgets go for the lions balls. That is the only other weak spot that the midgets could potentially harm. But indeed, do midgets have enough strength to kick the lion's balls? Those balls are high up and there is the lion's tail to protect them. Getting to those balls would be very hard, even for a full grown man... I have a problem with this part. Strong enough? It doesn't take much, balls are very sensitive, and you don't have to kick them as midgets are small enough to just grab. The tail is not that powerful, and the lion can't see behind itself when its swiping midgets in front of it. Its sort of like flanking the lion. There is also the possibility of the midgets holding down the hind legs, get two midgets to twist a leg outwards and push down, they'd be able to hold it for some time. but yes the lion would win. Good point Jam. I guess it might be the weak spot of the lion. Nonetheless, I think a good kick from a hind leg (or at least very excessive writhering) will be able to create enough mayhem for the lion to get its feet back. Those are powerful muscles. Ofc, lion still wins.
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Vondongo	Sep 2 2009, 07:23 PM Post #29
Moo. Posts: 5,434 Group: Member Member #130 Joined: October 15, 2008	Troops of baboons regularly fight off multiple lions. Why can't 40 midgets beat ONE lion?



Incog	Sep 2 2009, 07:34 PM Post #30
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	Because midgets =/ baboons. Baboons are very aggressive and quick little devilish things, midgets.... are midgets and they're scared shitless.
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