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Sep 2 2009, 07:34 PM
Because midgets =/ baboons.

Baboons are very aggressive and quick little devilish things, midgets.... are midgets and they're scared shitless.
But 40 of them? That's a LOT of manpower, even when it's so small.
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are you serious incog, 40 midgets...

1. The midgets can surround the lion, making it unable to corner into a wall
2. The lion can only attack a few at once, attacks from all sides would render it more defenseless
3. You fail to take into account that fighting 40 midgets would take a damn long time and the lion would not be able to strike once a second as its stamina decreases, no matter how much adrenaline it has.
4. The midgets can restrain it and break its neck or gouge out its eyes from up top the lion by climbing on top the midgets holding it down, etc.
5. Human will power > lion will power
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but as soon as the first midget is ripped to pieces, im pretty sure the others will run away. Its like medieval, its not just about killing the enemy but also about routing the enemy.
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thats what any reasonable person would think until they read the rules.
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40 midgets can't attack at the same time! And do you really think that the fucking lion will just let itself be surrounded...? Do you know what a lion is? It isn't a house cat, it's a fucking lion. The lion is way faster than the fucking midgets, do you think that it will just stand there and let the fucking midgets climb onto its back? And what harm could a fucking midget do to a fucking lion?

Many people haven't seen wild animals cornered. A cornered wounded animal is MUCH more dangerous than a healthy specimen in the open. It's going to fight to total exhaustion, it's going to fight for its life. Human will power won't surpass the survival instinct of a lion, who is already an aggressive beast who kills much larger animals than itself to feed. 40 midgets won't stand a chance vs a lion fighting for its life.
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Sep 2 2009, 08:48 PM
but as soon as the first midget is ripped to pieces, im pretty sure the others will run away. Its like medieval, its not just about killing the enemy but also about routing the enemy.
But that leads to the question, why would 40 midgets and a lion be fighting anyway? Why would they meet up and fight? So the midgets could then run?
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New poll.

40 Hamsters vs. house cat
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Sep 2 2009, 08:53 PM
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Sep 2 2009, 08:48 PM
but as soon as the first midget is ripped to pieces, im pretty sure the others will run away. Its like medieval, its not just about killing the enemy but also about routing the enemy.
But that leads to the question, why would 40 midgets and a lion be fighting anyway? Why would they meet up and fight? So the midgets could then run?
That's another question, this is hypothetical... imagine that the romans in their time did something like this for entertainment or something... w/e floats your boat, that just isn't the debate.
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Sep 2 2009, 08:55 PM
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Sep 2 2009, 08:48 PM
but as soon as the first midget is ripped to pieces, im pretty sure the others will run away. Its like medieval, its not just about killing the enemy but also about routing the enemy.
But that leads to the question, why would 40 midgets and a lion be fighting anyway? Why would they meet up and fight? So the midgets could then run?
That's another question, this is hypothetical... imagine that the romans in their time did something like this for entertainment or something... w/e floats your boat, that just isn't the debate.
But you can't really analyze a battle without knowing what leads up to it, what the environment is, etc.
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but as soon as the first midget is ripped to pieces, im pretty sure the others will run away. Its like medieval, its not just about killing the enemy but also about routing the enemy.
But that leads to the question, why would 40 midgets and a lion be fighting anyway? Why would they meet up and fight? So the midgets could then run?
That's another question, this is hypothetical... imagine that the romans in their time did something like this for entertainment or something... w/e floats your boat, that just isn't the debate.
But you can't really analyze a battle without knowing what leads up to it, what the environment is, etc.
What it leads up to.. ?
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Sep 2 2009, 08:53 PM
40 midgets can't attack at the same time! And do you really think that the fucking lion will just let itself be surrounded...? Do you know what a lion is? It isn't a house cat, it's a fucking lion. The lion is way faster than the fucking midgets, do you think that it will just stand there and let the fucking midgets climb onto its back? And what harm could a fucking midget do to a fucking lion?

Many people haven't seen wild animals cornered. A cornered wounded animal is MUCH more dangerous than a healthy specimen in the open. It's going to fight to total exhaustion, it's going to fight for its life. Human will power won't surpass the survival instinct of a lion, who is already an aggressive beast who kills much larger animals than itself to feed. 40 midgets won't stand a chance vs a lion fighting for its life.
holy balls chill out lol! you said "fucking" like fucking 20 times


They can't, but like the chinese they can attack in waves and waves, draining energy and can attack from all sides and topple the lion like the Mr.Smith's or w/e toppling Neo in the matrix in that one fight. You know hippos are more dangerous than lions man. It wouldn't let the midgets climb onto their back, would you? No...but with 40 midgets charging in the lion wont be able to do much about every single one. It's not going to invite them but they will get to its back as soon as the 10 or so around the lion hold it in place. What harm could a midget do to a lion? Dude, they're human, just cause they're small, dont mean they're retarded. They can gouge out eyes like I said and do everything I said. Not to mention kick at lions legs and if they're strong enough break its legs. Also, 40 midgets could easily surround a lion. It wouldn't have much of a choice.

Human will power has done incredible things, and the will to achieve and what not has gotten us to the moon and we can't even kill one lion? Lions aren't aggressive. They're very sleepy and only aggressive when put in danger, like every other living thing on this planet.
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Sep 2 2009, 02:01 PM
i have balls bigger than some midgets though.
I dunno why you haven't been thrown out by society.
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I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
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but as soon as the first midget is ripped to pieces, im pretty sure the others will run away. Its like medieval, its not just about killing the enemy but also about routing the enemy.
But that leads to the question, why would 40 midgets and a lion be fighting anyway? Why would they meet up and fight? So the midgets could then run?
That's another question, this is hypothetical... imagine that the romans in their time did something like this for entertainment or something... w/e floats your boat, that just isn't the debate.
But you can't really analyze a battle without knowing what leads up to it, what the environment is, etc.
What it leads up to.. ?
No, what leads up to the battle. Why are they there? How are they there? What's the terrain? What's the psychological disposition of each? Is it head-on? Et cetera.
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Sep 2 2009, 08:53 PM
40 midgets can't attack at the same time! And do you really think that the fucking lion will just let itself be surrounded...? Do you know what a lion is? It isn't a house cat, it's a fucking lion. The lion is way faster than the fucking midgets, do you think that it will just stand there and let the fucking midgets climb onto its back? And what harm could a fucking midget do to a fucking lion?

Many people haven't seen wild animals cornered. A cornered wounded animal is MUCH more dangerous than a healthy specimen in the open. It's going to fight to total exhaustion, it's going to fight for its life. Human will power won't surpass the survival instinct of a lion, who is already an aggressive beast who kills much larger animals than itself to feed. 40 midgets won't stand a chance vs a lion fighting for its life.
holy balls chill out lol! you said "fucking" like fucking 20 times


They can't, but like the chinese they can attack in waves and waves, draining energy and can attack from all sides and topple the lion like the Mr.Smith's or w/e toppling Neo in the matrix in that one fight. You know hippos are more dangerous than lions man. It wouldn't let the midgets climb onto their back, would you? No...but with 40 midgets charging in the lion wont be able to do much about every single one.

You would be surprised, look at some lions fighting...They're fast creatures, if he gets surrounded he will only kill faster and faster, he will frenzy. That will kill a lot of midgets fast. You have to understand that each midget lost increases the lion's chances of success, and to harm the lion at all the midgets HAVE to go in and do something, so midgets WILL die. They would have to kill it very fast and go in very hard, but it would be hard for them, they're small, and they're scared shitless, these are normal average joe midgets, going into the face of death like that isn't something done easily. You over-estimate the midgets courage, you underestimate the lions ability to harm another being.

It's not going to invite them but they will get to its back as soon as the 10 or so around the lion hold it in place. What harm could a midget do to a lion? Dude, they're human, just cause they're small, dont mean they're retarded. They can gouge out eyes like I said and do everything I said. Not to mention kick at lions legs and if they're strong enough break its legs. Also, 40 midgets could easily surround a lion. It wouldn't have much of a choice.

Haha, you really think a midget will be able to touch the lions face? Remember, only a limited amount of midgets can even go for the face at a time. Lions are very fast anyway, and they will only be faster when they're scared to death. You think the lion can't kick with its hind legs? And you think that, even if the hind legs are broken (which I highly doubt) (the midgets won't get the front ones), the lion will roll over and admit defeat? It can still use its front paws and jaws, and without it's hind legs it can still roll over on itself. Ie, it is still dangerous, perhaps even more because it is in pain. But the hind legs probably wouldn't even be broken, and if they do get broken it will cost a lot of midgets, decreasing their mass effect.

Human will power has done incredible things, and the will to achieve and what not has gotten us to the moon and we can't even kill one lion? Lions aren't aggressive. They're very sleepy and only aggressive when put in danger, like every other living thing on this planet.

This lion is in very serious danger, it will be seriously aggressive, so that is irrevelant. As it is, big cats are aggressive, you seem to think that felines are pussy cats? The problem with modern society is that they tend to bambi-ize every damn animal, so long as it has fur and fluffy ears. -_-

And the survival instinct of the lion, will, I repeat, be more powerful than the midget's will to kill the lion.
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You give the lion too much credit.

http://www.news24.com/Content/Africa/News/965/7762cd4ee2dc41c780593a7c7f10722d/23-06-2005-08-35/Man_rips_leopards_tongue_out
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Sep 2 2009, 09:15 PM
~70 kg vs ~200kg

Full grown man. I still say the lion wins.
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And I still say that the man can still win.
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So it's an even mu....

But the mass effect diminishes after each midget kill, this is why even after round 1, the lion is better off. I'm inclined to say it has a noticeable advantage here.
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Sep 2 2009, 09:22 PM
And I still say that the man can still win.
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M'Mburugu, a peasant farmer, dropped the machete he was carrying and forced his hand into the leopard's mouth, pulling out its tongue in an act of self-defence, according to the report in the daily.


WHAT THE FUCK?!
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Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM
I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
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Causing the leopard to begin bleeding to death. (Y)
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incog man, the frenzy is the adrenaline, once that runs out it will tire slowly. Each swipe increases and decreases both sides chances of winning. The more it swipes, the weaker/more tired it gets. Do you realise humans took on sabertooths and shit and mammoths with like 12-20 people, and that was when wildlife was much more dangerous than it is now. Lions are no where near to as deadly as sabertooths, so 40 midgets would be able to take the lion. I don't see them as midgets, I see them as humans, and humans have extreme courage when faced in life and death situations. Would you roll over and die if you saw a lion with 40 other of ya niggaz behind you?

If you break the lions legs it has a huge disadvantage, enough to even the playing field and from there the midgets can just ditract the front and attack from the back and when it turns to attack the ones in the back, the midgets in the front attack. Plus lions dont kill with one bite from jaws unless they hit the neck, which I doubt a human (even if it is a midget) would not dodge a bite at the neck as a pure reflex.

"Human will power won't surpass the survival instinct of a lion, who is already an aggressive beast who kills much larger animals than itself to feed" - incog

"They're very sleepy and only aggressive when put in danger, like every other living thing on this planet. " - me

it was relevant cause you're saying they attack anything on sight. Only when they're put in danger or what they consider danger are they intensly aggresive. Also humans also kill things much larger and dangerous then them for food. Humans are the top of the food chain for a reason man.
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Sep 2 2009, 09:30 PM
Would you roll over and die if you saw a lion with 40 other of ya niggaz behind you?


Oh there Black Midgets, well that changes Everything
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Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM
I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
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And I still say that the man can still win.
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M'Mburugu, a peasant farmer, dropped the machete he was carrying and forced his hand into the leopard's mouth, pulling out its tongue in an act of self-defence, according to the report in the daily.


WHAT THE FUCK?!
lol thats what I thought




oh and "A voice, which must have been from God, whispered to me to drop the panga (machete) and thrust my hand into its wide open mouth, I obeyed," he said" that made me smile because it only solidated the idea I have in my head that when a human's primal instincts kick in they always say it must have been God that told them what to do. Does anyone have any confidence in themselves that they'd know what to do in a situation like that? Human body and mind is much more advanced and intelligent then what people give it credit to be, especially after the brain developing survival and hunting skills from the tough years of human history. Although grabbing its tongue is pretty fucking wierd. And no this is not bashing religion, this is bashing human confidence.
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Humans took on Sabertooths and mammoths with spears.
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Sep 2 2009, 09:32 PM
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Would you roll over and die if you saw a lion with 40 other of ya niggaz behind you?


Oh there Black Midgets, well that changes Everything
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Sep 2 2009, 09:35 PM
Humans took on Sabertooths and mammoths with spears.
because they dont have claws and sharp teeth. then again that is a good point, this is an unfair fight seeing as humans can't use inegenuity to make a weapon and use it.

but still humans fighting with bare hands are still deadly
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Humans generally need the help of tools to kill big animals (note, generally). The more it swipes the more tired it gets? Dude it's pure muscle, lions kill on a regular basis, midgets do NOT. Most humans are dumb pussies who can't fight for their lives, literally. Our reflexes are slow, we have crap for muscles, jesus, we're a joke. Our ancestors were tough yes, humans today, not really..
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40 midgets can't attack at the same time! And do you really think that the fucking lion will just let itself be surrounded...? Do you know what a lion is? It isn't a house cat, it's a fucking lion. The lion is way faster than the fucking midgets, do you think that it will just stand there and let the fucking midgets climb onto its back? And what harm could a fucking midget do to a fucking lion?

Many people haven't seen wild animals cornered. A cornered wounded animal is MUCH more dangerous than a healthy specimen in the open. It's going to fight to total exhaustion, it's going to fight for its life. Human will power won't surpass the survival instinct of a lion, who is already an aggressive beast who kills much larger animals than itself to feed. 40 midgets won't stand a chance vs a lion fighting for its life.
holy balls chill out lol! you said "fucking" like fucking 20 times


They can't, but like the chinese they can attack in waves and waves, draining energy and can attack from all sides and topple the lion like the Mr.Smith's or w/e toppling Neo in the matrix in that one fight. You know hippos are more dangerous than lions man. It wouldn't let the midgets climb onto their back, would you? No...but with 40 midgets charging in the lion wont be able to do much about every single one.

You would be surprised, look at some lions fighting...They're fast creatures, if he gets surrounded he will only kill faster and faster, he will frenzy. That will kill a lot of midgets fast. You have to understand that each midget lost increases the lion's chances of success, and to harm the lion at all the midgets HAVE to go in and do something, so midgets WILL die. They would have to kill it very fast and go in very hard, but it would be hard for them, they're small, and they're scared shitless, these are normal average joe midgets, going into the face of death like that isn't something done easily. You over-estimate the midgets courage, you underestimate the lions ability to harm another being.

It's not going to invite them but they will get to its back as soon as the 10 or so around the lion hold it in place. What harm could a midget do to a lion? Dude, they're human, just cause they're small, dont mean they're retarded. They can gouge out eyes like I said and do everything I said. Not to mention kick at lions legs and if they're strong enough break its legs. Also, 40 midgets could easily surround a lion. It wouldn't have much of a choice.

Haha, you really think a midget will be able to touch the lions face? Remember, only a limited amount of midgets can even go for the face at a time. Lions are very fast anyway, and they will only be faster when they're scared to death. You think the lion can't kick with its hind legs? And you think that, even if the hind legs are broken (which I highly doubt) (the midgets won't get the front ones), the lion will roll over and admit defeat? It can still use its front paws and jaws, and without it's hind legs it can still roll over on itself. Ie, it is still dangerous, perhaps even more because it is in pain. But the hind legs probably wouldn't even be broken, and if they do get broken it will cost a lot of midgets, decreasing their mass effect.

Human will power has done incredible things, and the will to achieve and what not has gotten us to the moon and we can't even kill one lion? Lions aren't aggressive. They're very sleepy and only aggressive when put in danger, like every other living thing on this planet.

This lion is in very serious danger, it will be seriously aggressive, so that is irrevelant. As it is, big cats are aggressive, you seem to think that felines are pussy cats? The problem with modern society is that they tend to bambi-ize every damn animal, so long as it has fur and fluffy ears. -_-

And the survival instinct of the lion, will, I repeat, be more powerful than the midget's will to kill the lion.
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That would take a lot of research! :o

I cba, the best thing to do would be take a real lion and real 40 midgets, but that's un-ethical.
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