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Lulz Security
Tweet Topic Started: Jun 18 2011, 07:24 AM (3,669 Views)
DragonLegend	Jun 20 2011, 06:47 PM Post #31
Field Marshal Posts: 15,575 Group: Member Member #40 Joined: January 19, 2008	And if those hackers started dying, it wouldn't be the same? I believe most members of these hacker groups (Anonymous, the appropriately-named Lulz, et al) are teenagers and college-age kids who yearn for relevance and the feeling of power. They're not exactly assassination material. One visit from a cop and they'll piss their britches and stop whatever hacking games they do. It's about time someone did something about them, though. Especially that Anonymous group. I absolutely despise them. Also, I don't know who said it here, but cyber warfare is serious business, and one of the greatest threats facing the United States. China has been playing around with cyber attacks on the US it for a while, but I don't think much has been done about it.



Big Richard	Jun 20 2011, 08:28 PM Post #32
Gay People Read This. Posts: 5,323 Group: World's Finest Member #113 Joined: July 26, 2008	cyber warfare is really blown out. nothing really happens other than foreign gov. trying to view intelligence files. but guess how many people do that? A LOT. but they always report it as if its some incredible attack that took the smartest nerds to defend against. The firewalls alone stop millions of hacking attempts, only the sophisticated ones get through. but anyway anonymous is at least taking a stand against any organization trying to limit/alter connection to the internet, no matter how insignificant their actions are at least they're doing something



The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Jun 21 2011, 10:49 AM Post #33
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	DragonLegend Jun 20 2011, 06:47 PM And if those hackers started dying, it wouldn't be the same? I believe most members of these hacker groups (Anonymous, the appropriately-named Lulz, et al) are teenagers and college-age kids who yearn for relevance and the feeling of power. They're not exactly assassination material. One visit from a cop and they'll piss their britches and stop whatever hacking games they do. It's about time someone did something about them, though. Especially that Anonymous group. I absolutely despise them. Also, I don't know who said it here, but cyber warfare is serious business, and one of the greatest threats facing the United States. China has been playing around with cyber attacks on the US it for a while, but I don't think much has been done about it. The hackers are anonymous; if a teenager is apparently murdered in a gang fight, it is not altogether the exceptional event, and I'm certain there would be no great difficulty in illustrating the execution in such a way. It is improbable that the media will be able to connect the perished teenagers to their online activities.
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


DragonLegend	Jun 21 2011, 12:31 PM Post #34
Field Marshal Posts: 15,575 Group: Member Member #40 Joined: January 19, 2008	The group itself would notice that its members are dying, and would alert the media. The subsequent outrage from the general public would be unprecedented. Obama might even resign, although everyone would probably beg him not to, because then Joe Biden would be President.



The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Jun 21 2011, 12:49 PM Post #35
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	How would they know?
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


DragonLegend	Jun 21 2011, 12:54 PM Post #36
Field Marshal Posts: 15,575 Group: Member Member #40 Joined: January 19, 2008	Because they know each other?



DragonLegend	Jun 21 2011, 12:55 PM Post #37
Field Marshal Posts: 15,575 Group: Member Member #40 Joined: January 19, 2008	Or, maybe, their friends and family know about their membership in the group, and would tell everyone if they suddenly died after messing with US intelligence.



The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Jun 21 2011, 04:51 PM Post #38
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	My experience in internet relationships has impelled me to understand that the questionable inactivity of a friend will always have a cause that I can never be certain of. It is always exceedingly rash to presume that they have died, but there are several examples of friends, encountered through the internet, who have engaged in a rather sudden disappearance. Besides, it would be disdainfully foolish in the CIA if they ever carried out the execution whilst making perceptible their involvement.
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


DragonLegend	Jun 21 2011, 07:39 PM Post #39
Field Marshal Posts: 15,575 Group: Member Member #40 Joined: January 19, 2008	No, I mean they know each other personally (name, location, etc.) These groups aren't made up of complete strangers, I'd say. You don't hack into the CIA with someone you know nothing about. And if they didn't know each other personally, their families might know about their membership in the groups, and they'd no doubt make it public if they suddenly died.



The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Jun 22 2011, 11:19 AM Post #40
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	I would be vastly surprised if my family knew of my internet activities beyond the name of my facebook account.
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


DragonLegend	Jun 22 2011, 06:35 PM Post #41
Field Marshal Posts: 15,575 Group: Member Member #40 Joined: January 19, 2008	That's because you're not a member of a group that conducts cyber attacks against governments.



The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Jun 22 2011, 06:50 PM Post #42
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	And if I was, I would decide to tell my family about it because they're 100% ok with it?
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


DragonLegend	Jun 22 2011, 07:02 PM Post #43
Field Marshal Posts: 15,575 Group: Member Member #40 Joined: January 19, 2008	You would tell close family members because it's serious business. Cyberwarfare isn't a game.



gs	Jun 22 2011, 07:05 PM Post #44
Slow down Posts: 16,297 Group: Animals Member #1 Joined: December 12, 2007	i'm pretty sure i wouldn't tell my family if i was a cyber criminal lol. then again i don't tell anyone anything so i'm a bad example.



The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Jun 22 2011, 07:13 PM Post #45
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	DragonLegend Jun 22 2011, 07:02 PM You would tell close family members because it's serious business. Cyberwarfare isn't a game. I love the way you argue.
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


Jam	Jun 22 2011, 07:41 PM Post #46
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	DragonLegend Jun 22 2011, 07:02 PM You would tell close family members because it's serious business. Cyberwarfare isn't a game. If I hacked the government and stole sensitive documents I'd rather keep it a secret. What possible purpose would telling my mother serve?
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Big Richard	Jun 22 2011, 09:29 PM Post #47
Gay People Read This. Posts: 5,323 Group: World's Finest Member #113 Joined: July 26, 2008	Hyperactive Jam Jun 22 2011, 07:41 PM DragonLegend Jun 22 2011, 07:02 PM You would tell close family members because it's serious business. Cyberwarfare isn't a game. If I hacked the government and stole sensitive documents I'd rather keep it a secret. What possible purpose would telling my mother serve? IT'S SERIOUS BUSINESS.



The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Jun 23 2011, 08:33 AM Post #48
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	D:
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


Ichigo1uk	Jun 23 2011, 08:57 AM Post #49
Huh? Posts: 9,838 Group: A414A Member Member #10 Joined: December 14, 2007	A 19 year old was arrested in Essex on suspicion he's a LulSec member.
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DragonLegend	Jun 23 2011, 12:16 PM Post #50
Field Marshal Posts: 15,575 Group: Member Member #40 Joined: January 19, 2008	See? I told you. I'm brilliant. And you would tell close family members... because. OK, I suppose some would and some wouldn't, depending on what kind of things the group does.



DarkAngel	Jun 23 2011, 03:22 PM Post #51
Captain Posts: 501 Group: A414A Member Member #160 Joined: June 16, 2009	I luv dem trolls lulz. Or well, checking out what they doing. As long as they don't seek economic benefits I don't see the problem. I didn't read any of your replies FYI.



The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Jun 23 2011, 03:50 PM Post #52
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	DarkAngel Jun 23 2011, 03:22 PM I luv dem trolls lulz. Or well, checking out what they doing. As long as they don't seek economic benefits I don't see the problem. I didn't read any of your replies FYI. Dragon maintains that they may do so with impunity, for public outrage is certain to be conferred by their execution or arrest.
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


Big Richard	Jun 23 2011, 05:10 PM Post #53
Gay People Read This. Posts: 5,323 Group: World's Finest Member #113 Joined: July 26, 2008	DragonLegend Jun 23 2011, 12:16 PM See? I told you. I'm brilliant. And you would tell close family members... because. OK, I suppose some would and some wouldn't, depending on what kind of things the group does. ..what? how does a kid getting arrested on suspicion of being a member of Lulzsecurity prove that he told family members?



DragonLegend	Jun 23 2011, 05:30 PM Post #54
Field Marshal Posts: 15,575 Group: Member Member #40 Joined: January 19, 2008	No, I mean that I was right regarding that these 'hacker' groups are mostly teenagers and college kids. By the way, I came across this article: http://www.news.com.au/technology/sophos-says-lulz-security-effective-as-schoolboys-boasting-about-imaginary-girlfriends/story-e6frfro0-1226076458883 Quote: Which sounds impressive, but over at Sophos, Mr Ducklin said what Lulz were doing was "about as intellectually interesting and important as a bunch of schoolboys boasting in the playground about who's got the hottest imaginary girlfriend." He said most of the break-ins had been "languorously orchestrated, using nothing more sophisticated than entry-level automatic web database bug-finding tools, available for free online." While he admitted Lulz's behaviours was a "timely wake-up call", he insisted that didn't justify LulzSec's behaviour. "Time spent throwing bricks through other people's digital windows doesn't actually teach anyone anything about glassmaking, glazing or civil engineering," Mr Ducklin said. "If you consider yourself a hacker and you have time to spare, grow some moral spine and use your skills for active benefit. "Follow the lead of a guy like Johnny Long and hackersforcharity.org. "I dare you to look at his site and decide that LulzSec is a more worthwhile cause." Oh snap!



The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Jun 23 2011, 05:55 PM Post #55
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	So they're trying to say LulzSec shouldn't be taken seriously?
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


DragonLegend	Jun 23 2011, 06:19 PM Post #56
Field Marshal Posts: 15,575 Group: Member Member #40 Joined: January 19, 2008	I can't imagine them doing any serious damage. But I've always been of the opinion that one of America's biggest weaknesses is cyber-warfare, so who knows?



Big Richard	Jun 23 2011, 06:30 PM Post #57
Gay People Read This. Posts: 5,323 Group: World's Finest Member #113 Joined: July 26, 2008	its not a big revelation that the majority of people on 4chan and all of anonymous and such groups like lulzsecurity are young people lol thats common knowledge. also like I said, the media vastly exaggerates these attacks and here's a perfect example of someone who knows what he's talking about saying what they really are: simple "hacking" tools available to everyone. But thats not as scary as: HACKERS SHUT DOWN GOVERNMENT WEBSITE



DragonLegend	Jun 23 2011, 06:43 PM Post #58
Field Marshal Posts: 15,575 Group: Member Member #40 Joined: January 19, 2008	The media rarely reports on serious cyber attacks (e.g. China). A hacker group that takes down PSN is interesting. Chinese hackers threatening US national security is 'meh' to the average Joe.



Big Richard	Jun 23 2011, 07:25 PM Post #59
Gay People Read This. Posts: 5,323 Group: World's Finest Member #113 Joined: July 26, 2008	??? do you live in the united states?



gs	Jun 23 2011, 07:27 PM Post #60
Slow down Posts: 16,297 Group: Animals Member #1 Joined: December 12, 2007	he doesn't



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