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Jack the IV	Jul 1 2011, 02:18 AM Post #1
The Gent's Club Posts: 7,869 Group: Mr. Pink Member #43 Joined: February 19, 2008	Fans create friction on the air and the air blows against things, creating more friction. How does this make it cooler??
	In battle, in the forest, at the precipice in the mountains, On the dark great sea, in the midst of javelins and arrows, In sleep, in confusion, in the depths of shame, The good deeds a man has done before defend him.


gs	Jul 1 2011, 02:40 AM Post #2
Slow down Posts: 16,297 Group: Animals Member #1 Joined: December 12, 2007	i dont think the air is actually cooler it just feels cooler because its blowing away all the warm air thats surrounding your hand. that also explains why it cools your hand/anything else thats warmer than the air



Jam	Jul 1 2011, 03:45 AM Post #3
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	It increases the number of molecules per second that collide with your skin, thus the rate of cooling is higher.
	Long live Carolus


Jack the IV	Jul 1 2011, 04:09 AM Post #4
The Gent's Club Posts: 7,869 Group: Mr. Pink Member #43 Joined: February 19, 2008	Oh so there's more molecules to take away the heat from your body, so you cool faster, hence the cool feeling. Now that's cool :) But the overall temperature, in say, a confined room, would increase?
	In battle, in the forest, at the precipice in the mountains, On the dark great sea, in the midst of javelins and arrows, In sleep, in confusion, in the depths of shame, The good deeds a man has done before defend him.


Incog	Jul 1 2011, 06:44 AM Post #5
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	I don't know if this is true but it just came to me as a possible explanation. PV = nRT (perfect gas rule idk english term) By creating wind with fan, you make molecules move. Bernouilli's law (or smt lol idk english term) says that any fluid in movement has its static pressure go down. SO if P goes down, V is constant, R is a constant and n is constant, then T must also go down. So any fluid in movement, with constant volume and quantity of material (haha i really don't know the terms) sees its temperature diminish.
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The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Jul 1 2011, 07:52 AM Post #6
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	I believe the human body cools by having water molecules against the skin evaporate, thus withdrawing heat energy from the body; this rate of evaporation escalates in response to heightened wind speed, which is why a fan feels cool, although, in truth, any actual change in temperature is infinitisemal.
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


DragonLegend	Jul 1 2011, 12:58 PM Post #7
Field Marshal Posts: 15,575 Group: Member Member #40 Joined: January 19, 2008	God did it. ( )



_Saladin_	Jul 1 2011, 02:09 PM Post #8
Major Bullshit Posts: 2,763 Group: A414A Member Member #28 Joined: January 1, 2008	Jack the IV Jul 1 2011, 04:09 AM Oh so there's more molecules to take away the heat from your body, so you cool faster, hence the cool feeling. Now that's cool :) But the overall temperature, in say, a confined room, would increase? Yes, it would. The total energy though wouldn't. Quick quiz. If the energy isn't increasing, and the temperature is, and heat is energy, how is this possible? (I will slap you if you get it wrong however, so think carefully)



Incog	Jul 1 2011, 02:37 PM Post #9
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	temperature =/= heat
	Black tulip Tribute to the the greatest of the great.


Jam	Jul 1 2011, 03:21 PM Post #10
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	Incog Jul 1 2011, 06:44 AM I don't know if this is true but it just came to me as a possible explanation. PV = nRT (perfect gas rule idk english term) By creating wind with fan, you make molecules move. Bernouilli's law (or smt lol idk english term) says that any fluid in movement has its static pressure go down. SO if P goes down, V is constant, R is a constant and n is constant, then T must also go down. So any fluid in movement, with constant volume and quantity of material (haha i really don't know the terms) sees its temperature diminish. You're confusing the static pressure with internal pressure.
	Long live Carolus


Jack the IV	Jul 1 2011, 03:41 PM Post #11
The Gent's Club Posts: 7,869 Group: Mr. Pink Member #43 Joined: February 19, 2008	_Saladin_ Jul 1 2011, 02:09 PM Jack the IV Jul 1 2011, 04:09 AM Oh so there's more molecules to take away the heat from your body, so you cool faster, hence the cool feeling. Now that's cool :) But the overall temperature, in say, a confined room, would increase? Yes, it would. The total energy though wouldn't. Quick quiz. If the energy isn't increasing, and the temperature is, and heat is energy, how is this possible? (I will slap you if you get it wrong however, so think carefully) Why wouldn't the energy increase though? The fan is receiving energy from an outlet and is spinning, which transfers energy into the air, not?
	In battle, in the forest, at the precipice in the mountains, On the dark great sea, in the midst of javelins and arrows, In sleep, in confusion, in the depths of shame, The good deeds a man has done before defend him.


Jam	Jul 1 2011, 04:29 PM Post #12
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	Jack the IV Jul 1 2011, 03:41 PM _Saladin_ Jul 1 2011, 02:09 PM Jack the IV Jul 1 2011, 04:09 AM Oh so there's more molecules to take away the heat from your body, so you cool faster, hence the cool feeling. Now that's cool :) But the overall temperature, in say, a confined room, would increase? Yes, it would. The total energy though wouldn't. Quick quiz. If the energy isn't increasing, and the temperature is, and heat is energy, how is this possible? (I will slap you if you get it wrong however, so think carefully) Why wouldn't the energy increase though? The fan is receiving energy from an outlet and is spinning, which transfers energy into the air, not? The earths rotational speed is 1669.694 km/hour at the equator, therefore the air in the atmosphere is traveling close to that speed. Why isn't the atmosphere really hot?
	Long live Carolus


The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Jul 1 2011, 05:10 PM Post #13
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	That's obviously a trick question. I'm going to withhold my answer for the sake of my protection.
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


Jam	Jul 1 2011, 05:47 PM Post #14
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	Ultra-Musketeer Jul 1 2011, 05:10 PM That's obviously a trick question. I'm going to withhold my answer for the sake of my protection. You could simply remove your answer before anything can come from it. I mean, the longer you withhold your answer the stronger your urge to let it out will become.
	Long live Carolus


Jack the IV	Jul 1 2011, 05:57 PM Post #15
The Gent's Club Posts: 7,869 Group: Mr. Pink Member #43 Joined: February 19, 2008	Hyperactive Jam Jul 1 2011, 04:29 PM Jack the IV Jul 1 2011, 03:41 PM _Saladin_ Jul 1 2011, 02:09 PM Jack the IV Jul 1 2011, 04:09 AM Oh so there's more molecules to take away the heat from your body, so you cool faster, hence the cool feeling. Now that's cool :) But the overall temperature, in say, a confined room, would increase? Yes, it would. The total energy though wouldn't. Quick quiz. If the energy isn't increasing, and the temperature is, and heat is energy, how is this possible? (I will slap you if you get it wrong however, so think carefully) Why wouldn't the energy increase though? The fan is receiving energy from an outlet and is spinning, which transfers energy into the air, not? The earths rotational speed is 1669.694 km/hour at the equator, therefore the air in the atmosphere is traveling close to that speed. Why isn't the atmosphere really hot? Because heat is lost to space?
	In battle, in the forest, at the precipice in the mountains, On the dark great sea, in the midst of javelins and arrows, In sleep, in confusion, in the depths of shame, The good deeds a man has done before defend him.


Incog	Jul 1 2011, 06:07 PM Post #16
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	_Saladin_ Jul 1 2011, 02:09 PM Jack the IV Jul 1 2011, 04:09 AM Oh so there's more molecules to take away the heat from your body, so you cool faster, hence the cool feeling. Now that's cool :) But the overall temperature, in say, a confined room, would increase? Yes, it would. The total energy though wouldn't. Quick quiz. If the energy isn't increasing, and the temperature is, and heat is energy, how is this possible? (I will slap you if you get it wrong however, so think carefully) If the total energy doesn't increase but the temperature does, it means that the heat in your body goes into the room. Making the temperature in the room higher..... I guess.
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gs	Jul 1 2011, 10:02 PM Post #17
Slow down Posts: 16,297 Group: Animals Member #1 Joined: December 12, 2007	Jack the IV Jul 1 2011, 04:09 AM Oh so there's more molecules to take away the heat from your body, so you cool faster, hence the cool feeling. Now that's cool :) But the overall temperature, in say, a confined room, would increase? would stay the same i think



_Saladin_	Jul 2 2011, 03:36 AM Post #18
Major Bullshit Posts: 2,763 Group: A414A Member Member #28 Joined: January 1, 2008	Jack the IV Jul 1 2011, 03:41 PM _Saladin_ Jul 1 2011, 02:09 PM Jack the IV Jul 1 2011, 04:09 AM Oh so there's more molecules to take away the heat from your body, so you cool faster, hence the cool feeling. Now that's cool :) But the overall temperature, in say, a confined room, would increase? Yes, it would. The total energy though wouldn't. Quick quiz. If the energy isn't increasing, and the temperature is, and heat is energy, how is this possible? (I will slap you if you get it wrong however, so think carefully) Why wouldn't the energy increase though? The fan is receiving energy from an outlet and is spinning, which transfers energy into the air, not? The fan is receiving energy, but the total energy in the confined room, like you were talking about, is the same. How is this possible if the temperature in the room is increasing? And yes incy, temperature = heat.



Jack the IV	Jul 2 2011, 04:06 AM Post #19
The Gent's Club Posts: 7,869 Group: Mr. Pink Member #43 Joined: February 19, 2008	Cause the hot air on top gets mixed with the cold air on the bottom :)
	In battle, in the forest, at the precipice in the mountains, On the dark great sea, in the midst of javelins and arrows, In sleep, in confusion, in the depths of shame, The good deeds a man has done before defend him.


_Saladin_	Jul 2 2011, 04:41 AM Post #20
Major Bullshit Posts: 2,763 Group: A414A Member Member #28 Joined: January 1, 2008	Huh? No this is taking too long. It's cuz the energy providing the increase in heat is stored chemical energy from your body, which is moving the fan. So the energy in the room is constant, but the heat energy is increasing.



Jack the IV	Jul 2 2011, 04:45 AM Post #21
The Gent's Club Posts: 7,869 Group: Mr. Pink Member #43 Joined: February 19, 2008	No, the coal burning in the power plant is turning the fan o_O
	In battle, in the forest, at the precipice in the mountains, On the dark great sea, in the midst of javelins and arrows, In sleep, in confusion, in the depths of shame, The good deeds a man has done before defend him.


Incog	Jul 2 2011, 09:09 AM Post #22
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	temperature = heat? ffs why do you always disagree with my physics teacher
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The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Jul 2 2011, 09:37 AM Post #23
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	I believe the distinction is that heat is a form of energy, whereas temperature is a means of measuring it.
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Big Richard	Jul 2 2011, 02:17 PM Post #24
Gay People Read This. Posts: 5,323 Group: World's Finest Member #113 Joined: July 26, 2008	Fans...how do they work?



_Saladin_	Jul 2 2011, 03:33 PM Post #25
Major Bullshit Posts: 2,763 Group: A414A Member Member #28 Joined: January 1, 2008	Incog Jul 2 2011, 09:09 AM temperature = heat? ffs why do you always disagree with my physics teacher Temperature is just how much heat there is. Minus temperatures don't actually mean there's negative heat, just very little of it. The kalvin scale is the best scale to demonstrate this.



Ichigo1uk	Jul 2 2011, 04:52 PM Post #26
Huh? Posts: 9,838 Group: A414A Member Member #10 Joined: December 14, 2007	Temperature is a measure of energy transfer or something like that?
	Incog Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.


_Saladin_	Jul 2 2011, 09:51 PM Post #27
Major Bullshit Posts: 2,763 Group: A414A Member Member #28 Joined: January 1, 2008	Well technically it's the kinetic energy of the molecules, which is heat.



Jam	Jul 4 2011, 10:17 PM Post #28
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	Heat is a potential energy between two bodies of different temperature.
	Long live Carolus


Ichigo1uk	Jul 4 2011, 10:22 PM Post #29
Huh? Posts: 9,838 Group: A414A Member Member #10 Joined: December 14, 2007
	Incog Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.


Vondongo	Jul 6 2011, 07:19 PM Post #30
Moo. Posts: 5,434 Group: Member Member #130 Joined: October 15, 2008	Ichigo1uk Jul 4 2011, 10:22 PM So what is the purpose of that thing? Does it grant you a chance for a Chaos emerald if you collect 50 golden rings?



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