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DragonLegend
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Jul 21 2011, 07:27 PM
opening ports has nothing to do with stability. you must have a good router and i know plenty of people who have perfectly stable wifi but ours isn't and i imagine where dragon lives stable wifi isn't as common.
What do you mean by stability? I don't have any Internet problems. I rarely disconnect. I only lag when playing on Voobly. I've never had any problems with any other online games.

This is a pretty recent problem, by the way. I used to play AoM and AoE II all the time on Voobly while using WiFi and never had even a slight problem.
Edited by DragonLegend, Jul 22 2011, 04:25 AM.
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how exactly do you open ports?

been trying to do this yesterday but it's driving me crazy because I can't do it.
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The problem is with Voobly, apparently. I just played 3 games (the last one a 1v1v1) using another client and had no problems whatsoever.

PS: I won all three. ;)
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what other client?

most people on voobly suck the only good players that come from eso. gameranger?
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Make that four games, and yes, I won this one too.
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what civ? :D
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Yes, Incog.

EDIT: Ha, I didn't see that. They were Japs, every time, I was Brits.
Edited by DragonLegend, Jul 22 2011, 11:48 AM.
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From the 1v1v1. Lbows are simple great.
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Yeah they are. Brits have insane musks and hussars as well, coupled with an explosive boom. One of the reasons I despise playing against them. They are my bete noir. ;)

Dragon you should make villagers up to 99 and upgrade your dudes. You had enough resources for 4 imperial upgrades yet you had veteran longbow. :p silly

..unless you didn't have the guard/imperial card upgrade for longbows.. which you HSOULD have if you're going late game with them. ^^
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Yeah, I know I made countless mistakes, but I think I made up for them by keeping yellow on the defense and nearly destroying his economy with cavalry raids. I had a crap deck, too. I wasn't expecting to use any unit except musketeers and grenadiers. I was going with my version of the British musketeer rush -- which worked nicely against the other fellow in previous games -- but it somehow failed spectacularly against this guy, so I decided to change to lbow/dragoon.
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Also, I couldn't use any hotkeys. except SHIFT+number. :(
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If you're going to play FFA you need to assume you're going into lategame anyway so having more eco and military upgrades is better than resource or unit shipments. That means you need to plan on using every useful unit you have. Lbows are Brit's only RI. :p

shift+number is control groups, and yeah those are the most important. if you get into 1v1 where things are a bit more fast paced, I recommend you start using things like TC/rax/stables hotkeys. though you said yo couldn't use them? why

atm my setup is something like: ctrol groups 1 to 4 go to units (1 for RI, 2 for HI, 3 for cav and 4 for cannons (i split up 2 and 3 for only cav early game as i do only cav starts atm)

q selects all rax, then Z for xbow, e for skirms, a for musk, idk about pikes lol
s for stable, e for hussar, d for goons, c for cuirs,z for uhlans
t for tc, v for vills, h for homecity
: for explorer, use that one a lot atm

edit: oh and spacebar for idle vills. really good when you see you've got 2 or 3 idle vills, hit space and rally them to whatever resource feels like it needs the most. :p i also use f1 as the "select all units of same type" which is great
Edited by Incog, Jul 22 2011, 01:04 PM.
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Jul 22 2011, 01:01 PM
If you're going to play FFA you need to assume you're going into lategame anyway so having more eco and military upgrades is better than resource or unit shipments. That means you need to plan on using every useful unit you have. Lbows are Brit's only RI. :p
I know. But I'd already played against Blue a couple of times and had no doubt I could easily beat him with whatever units I had after taking care of Yellow. But Yellow was surprisingly good and put up quite a fight. I got so focused on keeping him from destroying my forward base that I complete ignored everything else in the game. I was under the impression I could end the game in 20 minutes.

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shift+number is control groups, and yeah those are the most important. if you get into 1v1 where things are a bit more fast paced, I recommend you start using things like TC/rax/stables hotkeys. though you said yo couldn't use them? why


Pain in left hand.

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atm my setup is something like: ctrol groups 1 to 4 go to units (1 for RI, 2 for HI, 3 for cav and 4 for cannons


Same here. (Y)

I'll do my hotkeys now. I've forgotten most of them. I'll try using at least the TC/barracks/stables ones.
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hmm well it can be easy even with a pained left hand (go fix that!) to just use rax/stables/TC/HC hotkeys. press once and the click on whatever unit you want to make. it's what gs does and it's the reason i don't know my pike hotkey. though you need to be a bit quicker with the mouse, nothing impossible ofc :p
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If you're available, we may be able to play today. ;)
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Slow down
we'll play tonight probably. like in 1 or 2 hours

right incog? we got a bo99 to finish :D

dragon you can play if you want but the skill difference is gonna be a little too much for it to be fun i think. you can observe us though if you want. have you ever seen this game being played right? like in recs or something?
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I've been watching recs all day.
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good. you're on RE patch?

we're using voobly atm, do you have an eso?
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dragon you'll want to read this, written by gs himself: http://rts-sanctuary.com/index.php?portal=RTS&act=Attach&type=post&id=141774

you like brits i hear so go with them (they're very strong on RE and FP so it's a good starting choice), chose a first build order from the guide and learn how to execute it. if you can execute a build nice and clean then you've made huge progress already.

also new comp? those screenshots had shinier graphics than the old pics we had from you with the demo version
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I have both the fan patch and the latest RE patch. I don't have an ESO account. Voobly probably still sucks, but we'll try it first and see if it works today.

I don't think I'll play, by the way. I don't like 1v1v1/1v2 games. :S
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I think I've read that. But I already know the BOs for musketeer and hussar rushes. The MU part seems helpful, though.

Yes, it's a new computer.
Edited by DragonLegend, Jul 22 2011, 06:38 PM.
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Damn, I just played and won a 2v2. I'm on a roll today.
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you playing on gameranger?

play voobly and fan patch. that way you won't get confused about stuff later because its different in both patches
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Dude, Voobly is terrible. I can't play for even 15 minutes.

Anyway, I just lost. Damn China. I should've made some hussars, but I thought my teammate was taking care of that. :(
Edited by DragonLegend, Jul 22 2011, 08:45 PM.
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i never disconnected because of voobly before always because of my own connection

might wanna forward port 5000 maybe that'll help. it's possible you're playing on a fast proxy connection with everyone instead of direct.
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I don't think I'm using a proxy. :/

By the way, what's the best European strategy against China, or an Indian FF?
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depends on your civ. china's got no musk so with brits colonial musk/huss is strong. if they FF boom a bit
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Jul 22 2011, 09:11 PM
I don't think I'm using a proxy. :/

By the way, what's the best European strategy against China, or an Indian FF?
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What about India, especially if he's planning on FFing?
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Well if he's going to FF then he's going to leave you alone for a bit. do a cav start with hussars to raid. it'll hurt him a lot. in the mean time manor boom, get market upgrades and you should be really ahead in eco and military unit count
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