gs

Aug 10 2011, 04:00 AM

Goodsbee

Jul 31 2011, 01:19 PM

Ultra-Musketeer

Jul 30 2011, 06:32 PM

Not all vampires carry rabies; it's like saying all girls give you crabs.

loool, I didn't say vampires I said bats...never heard of a vampire with rabies lulz

you know what else carries rabies? dogs

DragonLegend

Aug 10 2011, 06:38 PM

Why is it that self-hating humans always talk the talk but never walk the walk?

DragonLegend

Aug 10 2011, 06:00 PM

If an alien object were heading toward Earth, large enough to wipe out all life, I guarantee you dolphins and puppies wouldn't be the ones to stop it.

gs

Aug 10 2011, 07:10 PM

DragonLegend

Aug 10 2011, 06:00 PM

If an alien object were heading toward Earth, large enough to wipe out all life, I guarantee you dolphins and puppies wouldn't be the ones to stop it.

nothing would stop it lol, and even if we could we would simply steal their technology and use it against each other. it's not that i hate myself or humans in general, it's that i recognize the lack of respect many of us seem to have for the earth and its fragile eco systems, and how that can come to bite all life (including humans) in the ass.

gs

Aug 10 2011, 07:26 PM

i remember reading something about that. about how an asteroid like that would in all likelihood completely surprise us because we have no way of detecting it quickly enough without someone getting very lucky with a telescope, and even if we could see it coming there would be no way to stop it.

anyway, of course the only reason to respect the planet is to protect ourselves but protecting ourselves means protecting other life because we rely on it, more heavily than you might think. a planet doesn't have to earn respect, it needs to be respected because otherwise we can't guarantee it will be maintained in a way that is for us habitable.

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anyway, of course the only reason to respect the planet is to protect ourselves but protecting ourselves means protecting other life because we rely on it, more heavily than you might think. a planet doesn't have to earn respect, it needs to be respected because otherwise we can't guarantee it will be maintained in a way that is for us habitable.

DragonLegend

Aug 10 2011, 06:00 PM

If an alien object were heading toward Earth, large enough to wipe out all life, I guarantee you dolphins and puppies wouldn't be the ones to stop it.

gs

Aug 10 2011, 08:04 PM

i'm not talking about PETA here (and am insulted you would even think that), everyone knows peta is just a bunch of little girls who can't handle reality. i'm talking about global warming, destroying rain forests & coral reefs, eliminating entire species because they taste good, etcetera. basically anything humans do without recognizing the long term negative effects.

gs

Aug 11 2011, 07:39 PM

my solution is not using hairspray, deodorant spray or airconditioning. but that's just me, which is exactly the problem. no one can solve this on their own. carelessness but mostly ignorance is making people persist in using products that are harmful to the earths atmosphere

DragonLegend

Aug 11 2011, 08:31 PM

But there's no proof it's real... You want to cripple the economy based on the possibility that maybe an unproven and debunked claim is maybe, somehow, true. Meanwhile, millions of people suffer. That's radical environmentalism.

And animal testing is most definitely necessary... It's extremely useful in scientific research, drug tests, and the like.

gs

Aug 11 2011, 08:53 PM

DragonLegend

Aug 11 2011, 08:31 PM

But there's no proof it's real... You want to cripple the economy based on the possibility that maybe an unproven and debunked claim is maybe, somehow, true. Meanwhile, millions of people suffer. That's radical environmentalism.

And animal testing is most definitely necessary... It's extremely useful in scientific research, drug tests, and the like.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone_depletion

and i never said i was against animal testing. why do you keep assuming i am?

Big Richard

Aug 11 2011, 09:59 PM

"i'm talking about global warming, destroying rain forests & coral reefs, eliminating entire species because they taste good"

how are most of those not real? I guess the further right you go on the political spectrum the dumber you get

Redemption

Aug 12 2011, 12:31 AM

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gs

Aug 10 2011, 08:04 PM

i'm not talking about PETA here (and am insulted you would even think that), everyone knows peta is just a bunch of little girls who can't handle reality. i'm talking about global warming, destroying rain forests & coral reefs, eliminating entire species because they taste good, etcetera. basically anything humans do without recognizing the long term negative effects.

Hyperactive Jam

Aug 12 2011, 02:35 AM

He just said it wasn't vital. :D

Incog

Aug 12 2011, 07:38 AM

gs

Aug 10 2011, 08:04 PM

i'm not talking about PETA here (and am insulted you would even think that), everyone knows peta is just a bunch of little girls who can't handle reality. i'm talking about global warming, destroying rain forests & coral reefs, eliminating entire species because they taste good, etcetera. basically anything humans do without recognizing the long term negative effects.

in this case humans are no better than animals, literally. a few good ecosystems have been destroyed by introduced species. it's just that humans are doing damage on a more wide-scale scope. it would be unnatural to try to solve this, yet it remains the path to take, simply because humans are a bit more intelligent beings than the rest of nature. unfortunate, but it's the reality of thing.

dragon's reaction to the solution of NOT trying to control the damage being done to the world is a perfectly natural one. like rabbits in Australia (i've got to find a relevant article to back me up with this example), or bacteria on a petri, people are consuming resources and expanding like crazy, without the slightest intelligence of being able to predict how it's going to end when resources and space run out. in this regard, we're quite as stupid and ignorant as a rabbit, except we're much less fluffier and don't have the excuse of not being aware of the damage we do. humans DO know the extent of their damage, but in their uncontrolled greed they ignore precaution, spin atrocious lies and hope that they won't have to suffer the consequences of their actions, laughing as they do at the absolutely hilarious idea that it's possible to change how they live so as to not be as retarded as an amoebae. dragon's a perfect example of this.

one way or another, humanity isn't stronger than all of nature itself. humans still have natural origins and natural instincts, and if we don't fix the problem we're creating, mother nature will do it for us, directly or indirectly. i think we might nuke ourselves but i'm hoping we do it with conventional methods.

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There’s also a close resemblance between the environmental and biblical views of history, as the late novelist Michael Crichton pointed out in a widely reprinted speech. “Environmentalism is in fact a perfect twenty-first-century remapping of traditional Judeo-Christian beliefs and myths,” Crichton said. “There’s an initial Eden, a paradise, a state of grace and unity with nature, there’s a fall from grace into a state of pollution as a result of eating from the tree of knowledge, and as a result of our actions there is a judgment day coming for us all.” That judgment day currently assumes the form of various global-warming disasters that will happen unless we immediately perform still more rituals. Never mind that the science so urgently instructing us to reduce carbon emissions—thus hobbling economic growth and prosperity around the world—is so young, and so poorly understood, that it can’t explain why global warming seems to have stalled over the last decade. Far more persuasive is the argument from faith: we’d better repent, because the End is nigh.

DragonLegend

Aug 12 2011, 12:22 AM

gs

Aug 11 2011, 08:53 PM

DragonLegend

Aug 11 2011, 08:31 PM

But there's no proof it's real... You want to cripple the economy based on the possibility that maybe an unproven and debunked claim is maybe, somehow, true. Meanwhile, millions of people suffer. That's radical environmentalism.

And animal testing is most definitely necessary... It's extremely useful in scientific research, drug tests, and the like.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone_depletion

and i never said i was against animal testing. why do you keep assuming i am?

Ozone depletion due to CFCs was a scam as well.

I know you said you're not against animal testing, but then you said animal testing isn't necessary.