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Whats become of everyone?; Curiosity and Nostalgia
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The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Aug 19 2011, 06:05 PM Post #61
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	No, listen to me; when I go into facebook and change my religious views, I can set it to Atheism. This means that Atheist is socially accepted as a religion, and must therefore be considered as such.
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Incog	Aug 19 2011, 06:33 PM Post #62
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	gs Aug 19 2011, 05:41 PM atheism a religion are you kidding me...? atheism is simply a belief. not every belief is a religion. Atheism a religion is like saying not collecting post stamps is a hobby. No two atheist associate themselves to a group of non-believers or something silly like that, they just share a belief. It's like, oh idk, being a vegetarian is now a religion. lol
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Incog	Aug 19 2011, 06:35 PM Post #63
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	DragonLegend Aug 19 2011, 01:10 PM I don't think we're on the same page here... I said that beliefs held by a tiny, insignificant number of people don't shape society. Sort of how Ben Laden's terrorists had no major impact, right? I mean their beliefs are pretty personal, I'm sure many excessively Islamic people loved the idea of 9/11 but they didn't love it enough to actually die for their beliefs, or amiwrong?
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Big Richard	Aug 19 2011, 06:47 PM Post #64
Gay People Read This. Posts: 5,323 Group: World's Finest Member #113 Joined: July 26, 2008	im so glad those godless atheists are just minorities so they dont ruin society and rape my morally-correct children



gs	Aug 19 2011, 07:00 PM Post #65
Slow down Posts: 16,297 Group: Animals Member #1 Joined: December 12, 2007	Ultra-Musketeer Aug 19 2011, 06:05 PM No, listen to me; when I go into facebook and change my religious views, I can set it to Atheism. This means that Atheist is socially accepted as a religion, and must therefore be considered as such. it says religious views for a reason... atheism is not a religion, it's a belief you can have about the subject of religion, hence religious views. i do disagree with it though, it should say views on religion. because atheism isn't religious. anyway, since when is facebook perfect?



Big Richard	Aug 19 2011, 07:03 PM Post #66
Gay People Read This. Posts: 5,323 Group: World's Finest Member #113 Joined: July 26, 2008	gs Aug 19 2011, 07:00 PM Ultra-Musketeer Aug 19 2011, 06:05 PM No, listen to me; when I go into facebook and change my religious views, I can set it to Atheism. This means that Atheist is socially accepted as a religion, and must therefore be considered as such. it says religious views for a reason... atheism is not a religion, it's a belief you can have about the subject of religion, hence religious views. i do disagree with it though, it should say views on religion. because atheism isn't religious. anyway, since when is facebook perfect? gs im pretty sure he's just joking



gs	Aug 19 2011, 07:06 PM Post #67
Slow down Posts: 16,297 Group: Animals Member #1 Joined: December 12, 2007	i didn't interpret it as such. it's a valid point if you consider facebook credible on the subject so i don't see why you would be sure he's joking?



Big Richard	Aug 19 2011, 07:12 PM Post #68
Gay People Read This. Posts: 5,323 Group: World's Finest Member #113 Joined: July 26, 2008	because I know ultra doesn't take facebook seriously like that and he said earlier "no men I'm right". Ultra says shit like that when he's trolling



Incog	Aug 19 2011, 07:56 PM Post #69
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	gs Aug 19 2011, 07:06 PM i didn't interpret it as such. it's a valid point if you consider facebook credible on the subject so i don't see why you would be sure he's joking? i did. some bug getting raped in one my homie spider's web
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Ali Skahir	Aug 19 2011, 08:57 PM Post #70
Corporal Posts: 28 Group: Member Member #242 Joined: August 14, 2011	Saying that Atheism is a religion is like saying that Bald is a hair color. Atheism is the absence of belief in a religion or god... The word atheist only tells you half of the story, it only tells you what I don't believe. It does not tell you what I do believe. Here is what I do believe: I'm a secular humanist, I believe in the equal and fair treatment of all people, regardless of gender, race, creed, social status, wealth, education, sexual orientation and religion. I believe in human rights, and social justice and all that good stuff. I'm not sure Secular Humanism is a religion, it doesn't have dogma, or gods, or any crazy magic. Its a moral philosophy that says to be good to your fellow man simply because its the right thing to do. Edited by Ali Skahir, Aug 19 2011, 09:00 PM.



Ali Skahir	Aug 19 2011, 09:09 PM Post #71
Corporal Posts: 28 Group: Member Member #242 Joined: August 14, 2011	DragonLegend Aug 19 2011, 08:56 AM I do consider him immoral, now that you mention it. Not Hell-worthy immorality, but ignorance-fueled immorality, perhaps. Actually, I chose my beliefs not out of ignorance, but quite the opposite, the more I learned about the history and creation of Christianity, the more I saw that my belief was simply a coincidence of where I was born. In contrast, the more I learned about science, the less I needed to depend on super-natural explanations to help me understand the world. Science does a great job of showing me how things work. Anything that science can't answer yet, it will someday be able to, until then I humbly accept that we don't know. =] Also... I'm not immoral, I bet you and I share lots of the same beliefs in concern to justice, freedom, equality, and human rights. Human rights are very important to me. Edited by Ali Skahir, Aug 19 2011, 09:12 PM.



Vondongo	Aug 19 2011, 09:19 PM Post #72
Moo. Posts: 5,434 Group: Member Member #130 Joined: October 15, 2008	I don't understand you, Dragon. You say you support drug legalization and publish nothing but ideas as to why it's bad. You claim to not be a Christian but you're even faster to defend any and all things Christian-related than I am.



Big Richard	Aug 19 2011, 10:36 PM Post #73
Gay People Read This. Posts: 5,323 Group: World's Finest Member #113 Joined: July 26, 2008	Jamerson Aug 19 2011, 08:57 PM I'm a secular humanist have my babies please



Incog	Aug 19 2011, 10:49 PM Post #74
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	life is full of mysteries eh? like i have this one mystery, it's like, why is Ali not posting in other threads. >: (
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DragonLegend	Aug 20 2011, 04:21 AM Post #75
Field Marshal Posts: 15,575 Group: Member Member #40 Joined: January 19, 2008	Jamerson Aug 19 2011, 03:48 PM I heard say that non-believers are a no small minority, 30% of the population claims no religion or belief in god, but only 1.6% uses the word atheist to describe itself. And it is the fastest growing "religion" (and I used that term loosely) in the US. I know atheism isn't a religion. 30% is not insignificant, its just that non-believers aren't politically organized, nor do they have a common leader. Its hard to get independent thinking people to get together to do anything. Plus, NOT believing in something doesn't really give you anything in common with someone else. That's like making a League for People that don't have cancer.... Its really easy to get religious people organized politically because they already do all the right things, they congregate, they listen to a common leader, they are taught to follow. The minority that I was referring to is the immoral, militant anti-theist minority. Pay attention to your choice of words. Instead of "I used to believe in God, but then I stopped", you said "God's existence is bullshit." That kind of rabid anti-theism is a very, very statistically insignificant minority view. Quote: Sort of how Ben Laden's terrorists had no major impact, right? I mean their beliefs are pretty personal, I'm sure many excessively Islamic people loved the idea of 9/11 but they didn't love it enough to actually die for their beliefs, or amiwrong? For Heaven's sakes, I said that insignificant minority beliefs don't shape society (as in, their beliefs don't become the norm, or widespread), not that people with fringe beliefs are incapable of murdering members of society. Quote: I'm not sure Secular Humanism is a religion, it doesn't have dogma, or gods, or any crazy magic. Its a moral philosophy that says to be good to your fellow man simply because its the right thing to do. That is in direct contradiction to your avowed actions in this thread. You had a sexual relationship with a woman for purely selfish reasons, then dumped her as if she was a mere sex object. That is because the view that being 'good' (what is 'good'? Isn't morality subjective to non-spiritual, irreligious people?) simply because it's the right thing to do is nonsensical if there's no objective standard of morality. Quote: Also... I'm not immoral, I bet you and I share lots of the same beliefs in concern to justice, freedom, equality, and human rights. Human rights are very important to me. I believe you're immoral, but not evil. It's not like I'd kill you if we met in real life. Quote: I don't understand you, Dragon. You say you support drug legalization and publish nothing but ideas as to why it's bad. You claim to not be a Christian but you're even faster to defend any and all things Christian-related than I am. I gave you a perfectly good reason why drugs should be legal. That is, because it's a violation of liberty to ban them. I didn't even utter the word Christianity here. It's like you're being intentionally hostile and argumentative...



The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Aug 20 2011, 04:25 AM Post #76
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	gs Aug 19 2011, 07:00 PM Ultra-Musketeer Aug 19 2011, 06:05 PM No, listen to me; when I go into facebook and change my religious views, I can set it to Atheism. This means that Atheist is socially accepted as a religion, and must therefore be considered as such. it says religious views for a reason... atheism is not a religion, it's a belief you can have about the subject of religion, hence religious views. i do disagree with it though, it should say views on religion. because atheism isn't religious. anyway, since when is facebook perfect? Atheists can be pretty religious at times, believe me. EDIT: Quote: I gave you a perfectly good reason why drugs should be legal. That is, because it's a violation of liberty to ban them. I agree. Edited by The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom, Aug 20 2011, 04:30 AM.
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Big Richard	Aug 20 2011, 04:49 AM Post #77
Gay People Read This. Posts: 5,323 Group: World's Finest Member #113 Joined: July 26, 2008	LOL IMMORAL, MILITANT ANTI-THEIST MINORITY? hahahahaha you sound like some self-righteous prick. also morality is not always subjective to irreligious people, once again you seem to have no trouble highlighting your profound ignorance.



Ali Skahir	Aug 20 2011, 05:34 AM Post #78
Corporal Posts: 28 Group: Member Member #242 Joined: August 14, 2011	DragonLegend Aug 20 2011, 04:21 AM That is in direct contradiction to your avowed actions in this thread. You had a sexual relationship with a woman for purely selfish reasons, then dumped her as if she was a mere sex object. That is because the view that being 'good' (what is 'good'? Isn't morality subjective to non-spiritual, irreligious people?) simply because it's the right thing to do is nonsensical if there's no objective standard of morality. And why should your or any religion get to decide the "objective standard of morality"? I didn't tell the full story because I shouldn't have to explain my personal life to an internet stranger to prove my morality, but in any case I didn't know she was cheating on her boyfriend to be with me at the time. I believed she had ended it officially. I said it was a life goal, because when I look at it in retrospect, its something that in high school I always thought about: being with the cool chick that the popular rocker guy gets to date. So for me this was a chance to say I did that. Its not as if I purposefully stalked a rocker guy, found out if he had a girlfriend, maliciously seduced her, brought her to my house, banged her, had her make me a sammich, and then kicked her out... Edited by Ali Skahir, Aug 20 2011, 05:40 AM.



Incog	Aug 20 2011, 06:49 AM Post #79
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	Quote: For Heaven's sakes, I said that insignificant minority beliefs don't shape society (as in, their beliefs don't become the norm, or widespread), not that people with fringe beliefs are incapable of murdering members of society. I thought I misunderstood that. Ok, what about Jesus and his cronies before Christianity was wide-spread?
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The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Aug 20 2011, 07:07 AM Post #80
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	Did Jesus even exist?
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Incog	Aug 20 2011, 07:32 AM Post #81
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	yes he did, he's a historical figure, as much as Alexander or Cesar
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Jack the IV	Aug 20 2011, 07:35 AM Post #82
The Gent's Club Posts: 7,869 Group: Mr. Pink Member #43 Joined: February 19, 2008	"Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular." - Tacitus (56-120AD) Probably.
	In battle, in the forest, at the precipice in the mountains, On the dark great sea, in the midst of javelins and arrows, In sleep, in confusion, in the depths of shame, The good deeds a man has done before defend him.


Ali Skahir	Aug 20 2011, 07:46 AM Post #83
Corporal Posts: 28 Group: Member Member #242 Joined: August 14, 2011	Big Richard Aug 19 2011, 10:36 PM Jamerson Aug 19 2011, 08:57 PM I'm a secular humanist have my babies please Alright, Let me grow a vagina, ovaries, and a uterus so I can have your babies =D



The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Aug 20 2011, 08:10 AM Post #84
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	So what portions of Jesus are superstition, and what portions are fact?
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


Jack the IV	Aug 20 2011, 08:53 AM Post #85
The Gent's Club Posts: 7,869 Group: Mr. Pink Member #43 Joined: February 19, 2008	He most definitely floated up to his father in heaven three days after he was executed on a cross like a badass mother fucker.
	In battle, in the forest, at the precipice in the mountains, On the dark great sea, in the midst of javelins and arrows, In sleep, in confusion, in the depths of shame, The good deeds a man has done before defend him.


gs	Aug 20 2011, 10:58 AM Post #86
Slow down Posts: 16,297 Group: Animals Member #1 Joined: December 12, 2007	Ultra-Musketeer Aug 20 2011, 08:10 AM So what portions of Jesus are superstition, and what portions are fact? he was probably some kind of magician, did stuff people couldn't explain, and then found that saying he was the son of god got him followers.



Ichigo1uk	Aug 20 2011, 11:25 AM Post #87
Huh? Posts: 9,838 Group: A414A Member Member #10 Joined: December 14, 2007	gs Aug 20 2011, 10:58 AM Ultra-Musketeer Aug 20 2011, 08:10 AM So what portions of Jesus are superstition, and what portions are fact? he was probably some kind of magician, did stuff people couldn't explain, and then found that saying he was the son of god got him followers. Like teleporting a ball from one cup to the other 2.
	Incog Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.


Incog	Aug 20 2011, 12:08 PM Post #88
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	gs Aug 20 2011, 10:58 AM Ultra-Musketeer Aug 20 2011, 08:10 AM So what portions of Jesus are superstition, and what portions are fact? he was probably some kind of magician, did stuff people couldn't explain, and then found that saying he was the son of god got him followers. Nah, unlikely
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_Saladin_	Aug 20 2011, 12:24 PM Post #89
Major Bullshit Posts: 2,763 Group: A414A Member Member #28 Joined: January 1, 2008	Jack the IV Aug 20 2011, 07:35 AM "Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular." - Tacitus (56-120AD) Probably. No, I'd be careful with citing Tacitus or Josephus. The jury's still out on whether Jesus existed. "The second objection is much more serious. Conceivably, Tacitus may just be repeating what he was told by Christians about Jesus. If so, then this passage merely confirms that there were Christians in Tacitus' time, and that they believed that Pilate killed Jesus during the reign of Tiberius. This would not be independent confirmation of Jesus's existence. If, on the other hand, Tacitus found this information in Roman imperial records (to which he had access) then that could constitute independent confirmation. There are good reasons to doubt that Tacitus is working from Roman records here, however. For one, he refers to Pilate by the wrong title (Pilate was a prefect, not a procurator). Secondly, he refers to Jesus by the religious title "Christos". Roman records would not have referred to Jesus by a Christian title, but presumably by his given name. Thus, there is excellent reason to suppose that Tacitus is merely repeating what Christians said about Jesus, and so can tell us nothing new about Jesus's historicity." Also, josephus' writings were likely tampered with if you ever run into quotes from him.



gs	Aug 20 2011, 01:33 PM Post #90
Slow down Posts: 16,297 Group: Animals Member #1 Joined: December 12, 2007	Incog Aug 20 2011, 12:08 PM gs Aug 20 2011, 10:58 AM Ultra-Musketeer Aug 20 2011, 08:10 AM So what portions of Jesus are superstition, and what portions are fact? he was probably some kind of magician, did stuff people couldn't explain, and then found that saying he was the son of god got him followers. Nah, unlikely how is that unlikely... how do you explain it?



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