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The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Sep 23 2011, 02:16 AM Post #1
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	They've figured it out http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15017484
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


Jack the IV	Sep 23 2011, 02:19 AM Post #2
The Gent's Club Posts: 7,869 Group: Mr. Pink Member #43 Joined: February 19, 2008	:O I don't get why the speed of light is supposed to be the limit anyways.
	In battle, in the forest, at the precipice in the mountains, On the dark great sea, in the midst of javelins and arrows, In sleep, in confusion, in the depths of shame, The good deeds a man has done before defend him.


The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Sep 23 2011, 02:30 AM Post #3
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	Some people speculate that, as a result of time dilation, time no longer progresses at such a speed.
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


DragonLegend	Sep 23 2011, 04:49 AM Post #4
Field Marshal Posts: 15,575 Group: Member Member #40 Joined: January 19, 2008	Another scientific theory possibly proven utterly wrong. Looks like scientists aren't infallible after all. EDT: Let me add an emoticon at the end of that so as not to sound argumentative. Edited by DragonLegend, Sep 23 2011, 04:52 AM.



The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Sep 23 2011, 06:12 AM Post #5
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	You're right dragon, scientists aren't infallible; it's not as though anybody said they were. The scientific principles that exist are as alterable as our knowledge of science; if that knowledge happens to change, so do the principles.
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


DragonLegend	Sep 23 2011, 08:58 AM Post #6
Field Marshal Posts: 15,575 Group: Member Member #40 Joined: January 19, 2008	Some people act as if scientists are infallible though, which is ironically unscientific.



Jam	Sep 23 2011, 01:38 PM Post #7
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	Interesting, but the results have yet to be confirmed.
	Long live Carolus


The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Sep 23 2011, 04:45 PM Post #8
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	We'll probably see within the next week. It probably is just a matter of error in calculation, though.
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


Incog	Sep 23 2011, 05:31 PM Post #9
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	DragonLegend Sep 23 2011, 04:49 AM Another scientific theory possibly proven utterly wrong. Looks like scientists aren't infallible after all. EDT: Let me add an emoticon at the end of that so as not to sound argumentative. Lol that's like painting an AK47 pink and saying "I'm threatening your life with this but I hope that this delicate color will make sure there are no hard feelings between us". Obviously science isn't infallible. Who ever pretended it was?
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DragonLegend	Sep 23 2011, 07:04 PM Post #10
Field Marshal Posts: 15,575 Group: Member Member #40 Joined: January 19, 2008	Do "the theory of evolution is a fact" and "there's a scientific consensus about AGW and the science is settled" ring a bell? But whatever, I don't want to start another argument.



Incog	Sep 23 2011, 07:13 PM Post #11
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	Fact until proven otherwise sounds fine to me.
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Big Richard	Sep 23 2011, 07:32 PM Post #12
Gay People Read This. Posts: 5,323 Group: World's Finest Member #113 Joined: July 26, 2008	obviously your knowledge of science and history is nonexistent dragon, otherwise you wouldn't be sounding so fucking stupid right now lol.



ryker	Sep 23 2011, 09:17 PM Post #13
General Posts: 4,961 Group: A414A Member Member #134 Joined: December 1, 2008	read the article right b4 i got on here. awsome!!! i hope the calculations were right. think about what that would do for space travel if there is no speed limit!!! worm holes not a necesity anymore :)
	my name is ryker


ryker	Sep 23 2011, 09:18 PM Post #14
General Posts: 4,961 Group: A414A Member Member #134 Joined: December 1, 2008	watchu talkin bout dragon.... i pitty the foo...
	my name is ryker


gs	Sep 23 2011, 11:36 PM Post #15
Slow down Posts: 16,297 Group: Animals Member #1 Joined: December 12, 2007	Jack the IV Sep 23 2011, 02:19 AM :O I don't get why the speed of light is supposed to be the limit anyways. ye just because it's the fastest we ever saw doesn't mean it's the fastest possible. about the whole time travel bs: light =/= time so i don't see how someone would be able to travel in time by going faster than light? sure, if someone was viewing you from a distance and you'd move away from them faster than the speed of light they would see it as you teleporting, but i don't see what time has to do with anything. what am i missing? the inexplicable mistake people are making is calling these scientific facts certainties. they aren't, we knew that already because at least one of them had to be broken to explain the way atoms work. scientific facts are what we observed and logically concluded with our minds. how incredibly closed minded of people to think that we could ever come to objective truths with a mind as subjective as our own.



Big Richard	Sep 24 2011, 12:15 AM Post #16
Gay People Read This. Posts: 5,323 Group: World's Finest Member #113 Joined: July 26, 2008	iirc traveling faster than light = catching up with light beams that carry images from the past or something like that so you can view the past. let me look for the video im talking about



gs	Sep 24 2011, 12:18 AM Post #17
Slow down Posts: 16,297 Group: Animals Member #1 Joined: December 12, 2007	lol you can view the past right now just look at the stars. technically, everything you see is the past.



ryker	Sep 24 2011, 01:18 AM Post #18
General Posts: 4,961 Group: A414A Member Member #134 Joined: December 1, 2008	gs Sep 23 2011, 11:36 PM about the whole time travel bs: light =/= time so i don't see how someone would be able to travel in time by going faster than light? sure, if someone was viewing you from a distance and you'd move away from them faster than the speed of light they would see it as you teleporting, but i don't see what time has to do with anything. what am i missing? much like time nearly stops the closer you get to a black hole time goes slower the closer you get to the speed of light. we will see how the rest of the experiment goes but it has been calculated that time should nearly stop for the one going the speed of light, i believe they actually age slower. i think i read somewhere that if one were to reach the speed of light for even a fraction of a second, by the time he stopped everyone he knew would be dead and one would have aged for only that fraction of a second he went the speed of light for. correct me if I'm wrong hyper but i am going to go look for some .articles in the mean time...
	my name is ryker


gs	Sep 24 2011, 01:33 AM Post #19
Slow down Posts: 16,297 Group: Animals Member #1 Joined: December 12, 2007	ryker Sep 24 2011, 01:18 AM gs Sep 23 2011, 11:36 PM about the whole time travel bs: light =/= time so i don't see how someone would be able to travel in time by going faster than light? sure, if someone was viewing you from a distance and you'd move away from them faster than the speed of light they would see it as you teleporting, but i don't see what time has to do with anything. what am i missing? much like time nearly stops the closer you get to a black hole time goes slower the closer you get to the speed of light. we will see how the rest of the experiment goes but it has been calculated that time should nearly stop for the one going the speed of light, magically?



ryker	Sep 24 2011, 01:35 AM Post #20
General Posts: 4,961 Group: A414A Member Member #134 Joined: December 1, 2008	http://helios.gsfc.nasa.gov/qa_gp_sl.html#time maybe its the other way around, you wouold be dead in what the observer saw of a fraction of a second.... i am half asleep and will read that in more depth later but either way, speed does affect how fast or slow time goes for you, as does gravity... like i said, will look up more tomorrow after work and on the page, scroll down and click on the Time Near the Speed of Light tab and it will take you straight to the equation.
	my name is ryker


Vondongo	Sep 24 2011, 02:31 AM Post #21
Moo. Posts: 5,434 Group: Member Member #130 Joined: October 15, 2008	Next, we find the ruins on Mars and then comes the mass relay. It's all coming together.



The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Sep 24 2011, 02:56 AM Post #22
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	Redemption Sep 24 2011, 02:31 AM Next, we find the ruins on Mars and then comes the mass relay. It's all coming together. :O @gs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation @dragon: Galen was always correct and there was no need to inquire further into the human anatomy. The ancient greeks discovered everything there was to know about health and medicine; our duty should only have been to refine the practice. At least, that's what people used to think Edited by The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom, Sep 24 2011, 02:56 AM.
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


Jack the IV	Sep 24 2011, 03:25 AM Post #23
The Gent's Club Posts: 7,869 Group: Mr. Pink Member #43 Joined: February 19, 2008	Aren't we already traveling super fast away from the point big bang? That's what I don't get. How can you not be moving if the universe is expanding?
	In battle, in the forest, at the precipice in the mountains, On the dark great sea, in the midst of javelins and arrows, In sleep, in confusion, in the depths of shame, The good deeds a man has done before defend him.


Jam	Sep 24 2011, 04:06 AM Post #24
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	gs Sep 24 2011, 12:18 AM lol you can view the past right now just look at the stars. technically, everything you see is the past. It's their past, but it's our present. Also, for time dilation, 'time goes slower for you if you move faster' is a bit misleading. Time in your reference frame is the same, but from the reference frame of a slower observer time in your reference frame is slower. From your reference frame the time in slower references is faster. Hence the phrase "it's all relative".
	Long live Carolus


Jack the IV	Sep 24 2011, 05:59 AM Post #25
The Gent's Club Posts: 7,869 Group: Mr. Pink Member #43 Joined: February 19, 2008
	In battle, in the forest, at the precipice in the mountains, On the dark great sea, in the midst of javelins and arrows, In sleep, in confusion, in the depths of shame, The good deeds a man has done before defend him.


The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Sep 24 2011, 07:08 AM Post #26
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	If Tesla had lived, war might have turned out differently.
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


Jam	Sep 24 2011, 02:42 PM Post #27
Fruit Based Jam Posts: 7,945 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	If he had more money...
	Long live Carolus


The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Sep 24 2011, 03:30 PM Post #28
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	war might have turned out differently.
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


Incog	Sep 24 2011, 03:38 PM Post #29
CHEERIO! Posts: 21,769 Group: French Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	I'd love for this to be genuine. Then I'd go in physics class and for every equation depending on c (ie almost all of them) I'd say "nope, not gonna learn this false shit". Then get up dramatically and leave the class. :D
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The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom	Sep 24 2011, 03:50 PM Post #30
:OOOOOOOOOOOOMAAANN Posts: 18,587 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	There's a probability that these neutrinos. Are just Chuck Testa.
	Jam It's okay to be mad at your fiends sometimes


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