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Oakflesh is nice, even with armor, but it's really designed around the Mage Armor perk so you can turn it up all the way, and you need to be wearing your robes or no armor for that. And if you're not wearing robes, restoring magicka will take a lot longer.

I'd say High Elf is easier than Argonian, just because of the insane buffs to your magic.,
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It doesn't seem like a battle mage would be very consistent with his magic, unless he carried 20 magicka potions with him or something. Also, the easiest solution to avoid killing a companion is to simply not take a companion with you. The damage that they do is meagre on high difficulties; beyond distracting dragons and carrying some of your items, they aren't, in my opinion, very useful.

If you insist upon using a companion, though, my strategy would be to isolate individual opponents and then proceed to kill them; mages excel in 1v1 combat due to impact, so try to limit your encounters to those in particular. Assuming that enemies are actually noticing your companion and trying to attack them, it shouldn't be too difficult, especially in dungeons where narrow corridors can assist.

High Elf was the race that I first took, with the aim of becoming a mage, and I have to agree that the immense magicka benefits that they receive makes them most suitable for the purpose than Bretons; in my opinion, at least.
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battlemage wouldn't be casting offensive spells, you simply use stoneflesh and stuff like that to make you invincible. and what sucks about mage armor perk is that if you use any of the OP masks like morokei or naahktin or w/e then the effect doesn't apply.

also carrying my shit and distractions IS all I use my companions for. It IS SO FUCKING ANNOYING when the god damn dog always gets in the way and the dumb ass lydia just stands around. The AI is retarded in this game but whatever its something that makes me know im playing an elder scrolls game <3
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Companions are best for tanking damage. One of my favourite tactics is to have Lydia follow me around and an atromanch ready to summon. I provoke someone and then conjure the atromanch and run away like a little girl. Then I come back once they're attacking my two companions and hit 'em with my sword while tanking damage with healing spells. It's pretty effective I suppose.

Is anyone a werewolf? When I lasted played I was in the middle of the first werewolf quest which is really hard as the ass holes armed silver weapons do a LOT of damage to you. It's quite insane really but 4 or 5 hitting a werewolf with so much HP... :p Insane. I ended up just saving and going to bed, that's how hard it is. I think what I'm going to do is wait for the werewolf effect to dissipate and go back to human form and fight from there. Werewolves are most effective against humans without silver weapons I think. I love the power attack that you can use, it knocks people over and sends them flying, then you can run up to them and dish out a lot damage while they get back up.
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Oh and Dragons are easy to deal with. Run around with a bow and make sure they don't get too close. Sprinting and using the Whirlwind Sprint shout if they get too close helps a lot. Conjure an atromanch. Run for cover. Hit using a bow. It should go down quickly enough. Leading a dragon towards enemies you want eliminated is pretty useful as well. Weakens them both. :p

Bears though, are real bitches to deal with. They kill me in like 5 hits and I can barely run away from them. They seem to ignore whatever I summon. The best thing to do is run as fast as possible to a river or any body of water and swim. For some reason they hate water.

Tbh, bears are scarier than Dragons.
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bears? more like those god damn liger hybrid things
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Tbh, bears are scarier than Dragons.


As a melee range warrior, it's the other way around; bears are easy to block and not too difficult to kill, but you can't do jack against dragons until you unlock Dragonrend.
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All you need against Dragons is a bow and some brains. :p

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I'd say sabre cats are worse than bears, because bears are noisy and easy to predict, even when they're behind you. Sabre cats try to ambush me a lot and they usually don't make much noise until they're right there.

Same for bears goes for trolls. Trolls can be a headache if you don't have good fire spells, but they're noisy and easy to spot and evade.
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Question: can all followers die, or is Lydia the only one? I've heard other followers don't, but I'm not sure.
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yeah the retarded dog dies. a lot.
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Nov 25 2011, 07:51 PM
All you need against Dragons is a bow and some brains. :p

It's boring as fuck firing 200 arrows, though, which is what I have to do without any investment into Archery.

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Question: can all followers die, or is Lydia the only one? I've heard other followers don't, but I'm not sure.


Quest-related followers can't die. Usually, if a follower does die, it's because the player kills them by accident, because the enemy AI ignores them when they yield after going low on health.
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Nov 26 2011, 11:15 AM
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Nov 25 2011, 07:51 PM
All you need against Dragons is a bow and some brains. :p

It's boring as fuck firing 200 arrows, though, which is what I have to do without any investment into Archery.

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Question: can all followers die, or is Lydia the only one? I've heard other followers don't, but I'm not sure.


Quest-related followers can't die. Usually, if a follower does die, it's because the player kills them by accident, because the enemy AI ignores them when they yield after going low on health.
Why bother firing arrows? Just chuck firebolts at them for the whole battle.
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I'm playing as a soldier at the moment, so I don't have enough magicka for that <_<
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Am I the only playing on Master level and dying all the fucking time? Took me 3 tries to break into a chambre with Draugs in it and like 10 or so tries to kill some random bandit witch and highwayman that kept killing me with lightning.

Only way to survive was to summon a really powerful melee warrior. ;s
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How can it be fun if you die every 10 seconds :S
In battle, in the forest, at the precipice in the mountains,
On the dark great sea, in the midst of javelins and arrows,
In sleep, in confusion, in the depths of shame,
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Nov 26 2011, 05:00 PM
Am I the only playing on Master level and dying all the fucking time? Took me 3 tries to break into a chambre with Draugs in it and like 10 or so tries to kill some random bandit witch and highwayman that kept killing me with lightning.

Only way to survive was to summon a really powerful melee warrior. ;s
do you have impact?
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Nov 26 2011, 05:19 PM
do you have impact?
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Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM
I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
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That sounds really hard. I think I'll just be a farmer and let the king protect me.
Long live Carolus
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Nov 26 2011, 05:19 PM
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Nov 26 2011, 05:00 PM
Am I the only playing on Master level and dying all the fucking time? Took me 3 tries to break into a chambre with Draugs in it and like 10 or so tries to kill some random bandit witch and highwayman that kept killing me with lightning.

Only way to survive was to summon a really powerful melee warrior. ;s
do you have impact?
Problem with relying on Impact is that you have to keep dual casting and if you're in enclosed spaces (where draugr are) the magicka well will run dry.


Best way of dealing with them is to conjure a bound sword or axe (I really prefer the sword myself, but whatever) that's got the perk that turns undead and banishes summoned entities. Please tell me you have that, because Conjuration is one of the easiest skills to level up (even easier than one-handed or enchanting).
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Nov 26 2011, 05:04 PM
How can it be fun if you die every 10 seconds :S
Hence why I don't play Master. I enjoy something challenging, but not something where AI damage is just plain cheap.
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Am I the only playing on Master level and dying all the fucking time? Took me 3 tries to break into a chambre with Draugs in it and like 10 or so tries to kill some random bandit witch and highwayman that kept killing me with lightning.

Only way to survive was to summon a really powerful melee warrior. ;s
do you have impact?
Problem with relying on Impact is that you have to keep dual casting and if you're in enclosed spaces (where draugr are) the magicka well will run dry.
not if you take a mana-efficient spell like thunderbolt and wait until they're out of stun then cast it again. i'm winning mana in the process... but that might be because i have sick mana regen items, about 200-250% probably. and fortify mana items as well
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you guys have trouble with drougr? why? all you have to do is rape everything in the game by dualcasting thunderbolt/ice spike/fire bolt(?) according to the enemies resistance/types. if you're playing mage you should never have mana troubles because of a) potions and b) mana regen items
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I always have mana problems because I use sword and spells and have armor instead. And no I don't have impact.

Either way the easy solution is to hire a mage to be your bitch. For 500 coin he's actually annoying in that he rapes my opponents before i can hit them with a sword. he's a dumbass vs dragons though. Still, fair is fair, my enemies are really strong and it's nigh impossible to do this shit alone the way I play. :p

Edit: Oh and being a werewolf is excellent. They sprint really fast and stamina drains very slowly while sprinting. The ground you cover is insane (faster than horses). Best part is how fast stamina regenerates. Insane. I also found that having dual wielding perks makes their melee that much more effective and the DPS really is impressive. Other impressive features is that you can knock opponents down with a power attack and you can pounce on people by sprinting and doing a power attack. And probably the coolest thing is that you can do a fear inducing howl that makes everyone run away like little girls. Then it becomes so easy to pick them off. Werewolves are really incredibly strong. I even remember knocking over a sabre cat and killing him. That felt good considering all the trouble they've given me.
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Nov 26 2011, 08:20 PM
you guys have trouble with drougr? why? all you have to do is rape everything in the game by dualcasting thunderbolt/ice spike/fire bolt(?) according to the enemies resistance/types. if you're playing mage you should never have mana troubles because of a) potions and b) mana regen items
I never said I had a problem with them. I used dual cast firebolt or lightning bolt back when that efficiently killed them quickly, but after it started wearing down I just use conjured weapons on them and that works fine. I don't have all the big mana regen items yet, so a few bolts, then stoneflesh and a charge in with the soul-stealing bound sword works fine.

I love the conjured weapons. They don't weigh you down when not in use, are decently strong and with that one perk will one-hit all atronachs and send anything undead into a stupor.
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Nov 26 2011, 06:07 PM
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Nov 26 2011, 05:19 PM
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Nov 26 2011, 05:00 PM
Am I the only playing on Master level and dying all the fucking time? Took me 3 tries to break into a chambre with Draugs in it and like 10 or so tries to kill some random bandit witch and highwayman that kept killing me with lightning.

Only way to survive was to summon a really powerful melee warrior. ;s
do you have impact?
Problem with relying on Impact is that you have to keep dual casting and if you're in enclosed spaces (where draugr are) the magicka well will run dry.


Best way of dealing with them is to conjure a bound sword or axe (I really prefer the sword myself, but whatever) that's got the perk that turns undead and banishes summoned entities. Please tell me you have that, because Conjuration is one of the easiest skills to level up (even easier than one-handed or enchanting).
>Complete College of Winterhold Quests.
>No more magicka problems.
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Mages are nice but whacking someone to death with a sword remains globally more satisfying.
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Yeah; winning combat also feels like more of an achievement, especially when your shield is applied to good effect.
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First game was as an Argonian assassin. Current game is as a High Elf wizard. Next game is going to be an Orc who just hacks-and-slashes everything.
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Nov 26 2011, 10:32 PM
I always have mana problems because I use sword and spells and have armor instead. And no I don't have impact.

Either way the easy solution is to hire a mage to be your bitch. For 500 coin he's actually annoying in that he rapes my opponents before i can hit them with a sword. he's a dumbass vs dragons though. Still, fair is fair, my enemies are really strong and it's nigh impossible to do this shit alone the way I play. :p

Edit: Oh and being a werewolf is excellent. They sprint really fast and stamina drains very slowly while sprinting. The ground you cover is insane (faster than horses). Best part is how fast stamina regenerates. Insane. I also found that having dual wielding perks makes their melee that much more effective and the DPS really is impressive. Other impressive features is that you can knock opponents down with a power attack and you can pounce on people by sprinting and doing a power attack. And probably the coolest thing is that you can do a fear inducing howl that makes everyone run away like little girls. Then it becomes so easy to pick them off. Werewolves are really incredibly strong. I even remember knocking over a sabre cat and killing him. That felt good considering all the trouble they've given me.
i have endless sprint in normal form too. there's a perk in restoration that lets you heal stamina with all your heal spells. i pop 1 fast heal and its full again
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