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Yogurt is a Ripoff
Topic Started: Jun 25 2012, 11:38 PM (439 Views)
Jam	Jun 25 2012, 11:38 PM Post #1
Imported Jelly Posts: 6,139 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	Stop wasting your money, you only have to buy yogurt once. Follow these simple directions. Purchase a plain yogurt with active cultures and milk. Milk is cheaper than yogurt which is why you save money. Working sterile is essential so you don't get contamination from other bacteria. 1) Put the milk in a boiling water bath, DO NOT put the pot of milk directly on the element or you will burn the milk. 2) After boiling the milk for 10 minutes to denature enzymes that would harm bacteria, pour it into a disinfected container. Let cool. 3) Add a teaspoon of your yogurt to milk and stir then cover the container. Incubate at 25-30 degrees. Putting it outside on a warm day should do. 4) After probably 7 hours you'll have fresh, tasteless yogurt with some liquid on top, discard this liquid. You can also make wine for $3 a bottle by taking a jug of juice, adding some sugar and yeast, and using a simple balloon set-up. There are other things like yeast nutrient depending on the quality you're going for. Always work sterile. http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Cheap-Wine
	"Every time you fall asleep, you die. Someone else wakes up in your body thinking they are you."


Ichigo1uk	Jun 25 2012, 11:44 PM Post #2
You Dun Goof'd Posts: 8,143 Group: A414A Member Member #10 Joined: December 14, 2007	But what about my strawberry's D:
	Incog Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.


Jam	Jun 25 2012, 11:52 PM Post #3
Imported Jelly Posts: 6,139 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	Grow the strawberries, they are perennial and spread by root so you only have to buy one because you're a cheap asshole who wants to contribute as little possible to the economy.
	"Every time you fall asleep, you die. Someone else wakes up in your body thinking they are you."


Ichigo1uk	Jun 26 2012, 01:14 AM Post #4
You Dun Goof'd Posts: 8,143 Group: A414A Member Member #10 Joined: December 14, 2007	YEHH
	Incog Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.


Jack the IV	Jun 26 2012, 05:47 AM Post #5
The Gent's Club Posts: 7,573 Group: Mr. Pink Member #43 Joined: February 19, 2008	Yea pretty sure that wine tastes horrid lol.
	In battle, in the forest, at the precipice in the mountains, On the dark great sea, in the midst of javelins and arrows, In sleep, in confusion, in the depths of shame, The good deeds a man has done before defend him.


Ultra-Musketeer	Jun 26 2012, 07:17 AM Post #6
Dinner Posts: 17,264 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	We could probably save some considerable funds if we just grew our own food. Subsistence farming doesn't really permit society to attain to the highest of standards, however.
	Jam lmao


Incog	Jun 26 2012, 03:56 PM Post #7
French Ofc Posts: 19,825 Group: iNcoG Teh WiZe Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	we already do this, actually. our homemade yoghurt tastes better too. tho sometimes it gets tedious to make
	According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead. Which is a little too permanent for my liking. Generally those who don't have to do it. Politicians and writers spring to mind. ಠ_ರೃ


Ichigo1uk	Jun 26 2012, 04:08 PM Post #8
You Dun Goof'd Posts: 8,143 Group: A414A Member Member #10 Joined: December 14, 2007	that's not yoghurt!!
	Incog Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.


Jam	Jun 29 2012, 08:30 PM Post #9
Imported Jelly Posts: 6,139 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	Jack the IV Jun 26 2012, 05:47 AM Yea pretty sure that wine tastes horrid lol. I'm going to make it next week, and I'll video the process.
	"Every time you fall asleep, you die. Someone else wakes up in your body thinking they are you."


Incog	Jun 30 2012, 03:10 PM Post #10
French Ofc Posts: 19,825 Group: iNcoG Teh WiZe Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	Jam Jun 29 2012, 08:30 PM Jack the IV Jun 26 2012, 05:47 AM Yea pretty sure that wine tastes horrid lol. I'm going to make it next week, and I'll video the process. actually do this. please, would be so cool
	According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead. Which is a little too permanent for my liking. Generally those who don't have to do it. Politicians and writers spring to mind. ಠ_ರೃ


Jam	Jun 30 2012, 10:50 PM Post #11
Imported Jelly Posts: 6,139 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	Incog Jun 30 2012, 03:10 PM Jam Jun 29 2012, 08:30 PM Jack the IV Jun 26 2012, 05:47 AM Yea pretty sure that wine tastes horrid lol. I'm going to make it next week, and I'll video the process. actually do this. please, would be so cool I'm going to, I just need to buy some tubing and yeast. I went to the store to buy grape juice but bought apple juice by mistake. So Wednesday I'll start and probably have a video up on Friday.
	"Every time you fall asleep, you die. Someone else wakes up in your body thinking they are you."


Ultra-Musketeer	Jul 2 2012, 11:16 AM Post #12
Dinner Posts: 17,264 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	How do you fail to distinguish between grape juice and apple juice? Unless they make it out of green apples where you live.
	Jam lmao


Jam	Jul 3 2012, 06:28 AM Post #13
Imported Jelly Posts: 6,139 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	Some guide I was reading was talking about using a gallon jug of apple juice to make a cider so I had that in the back of my head.
	"Every time you fall asleep, you die. Someone else wakes up in your body thinking they are you."


Ultra-Musketeer	Jul 3 2012, 08:56 AM Post #14
Dinner Posts: 17,264 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	Your actions demonstrate clearly that you have no free will.
	Jam lmao


Jam	Jul 3 2012, 11:38 PM Post #15
Imported Jelly Posts: 6,139 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	I have the will to be free.
	"Every time you fall asleep, you die. Someone else wakes up in your body thinking they are you."


Ultra-Musketeer	Jul 4 2012, 06:14 AM Post #16
Dinner Posts: 17,264 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	But you don't have the freedom to will
	Jam lmao


Jam	Jul 4 2012, 06:42 PM Post #17
Imported Jelly Posts: 6,139 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	Predetermined choices are still choices. Even though my future is predetermined I still control it.
	"Every time you fall asleep, you die. Someone else wakes up in your body thinking they are you."


Ultra-Musketeer	Jul 4 2012, 06:50 PM Post #18
Dinner Posts: 17,264 Group: A414A Member Member #35 Joined: January 11, 2008	When you're presented with a choice, you can't avoid making the choice; you're forced into decision, and although you might choose freely, you don't have the freedom to determine the choices that you're given. Lol sophistry
	Jam lmao


Jam	Jul 5 2012, 05:59 AM Post #19
Imported Jelly Posts: 6,139 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	The video sucks so here's a picture. I'll post the video if you want, but it's just 5 minutes of me pouring somethings into a jug and talking too quietly. http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p247/Hyperactive_Jam/wine-fermenter.jpg Update: Fermentation is under way.
	"Every time you fall asleep, you die. Someone else wakes up in your body thinking they are you."


Incog	Jul 5 2012, 07:21 PM Post #20
French Ofc Posts: 19,825 Group: iNcoG Teh WiZe Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	nice stuff. tell us how it tastes
	According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead. Which is a little too permanent for my liking. Generally those who don't have to do it. Politicians and writers spring to mind. ಠ_ರೃ


Jam	Jul 6 2012, 03:15 AM Post #21
Imported Jelly Posts: 6,139 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	It will likely be done in 2 weeks maximum. Update: It was bubbling a bit faster, but not a lot more when I came home, it seemed a bit slow compared to what I've seen/researched. So I added a small mixture of lemon juice, crushed tablet of assorted B vitamins (with some other vitamins), and magnesium sulphate. Magnesium is one of the most important enzyme co-factors in all living things, I used a pinch of Epsom salts for this. Vitamins are enzyme co-factors, and I researched that Yeast needs a lot of B-vitamins. I was concerned that the juice from concentrate may have been re-hydrated with distilled water which lacks many ions. The lemon juice will help take care of that and provide some extra phosphates. Extra nitrogen was already provided at the inoculation by addition of ammonium bicarbonate (baking ammonia). This covers the common ingredients in commercial Yeast Nutrient/Energizer packets. I'll check back in an hour to see if this picks up the fermentation rate. It doesn't let off as much smell as I thought it would given that my gas trap failed due to a hole in the balloon. So I probably should have done the whole gallon jug with the 2.5L of grape juice + 1L of apple juice I accidentally bought. That would have been better considering that the Yeast I am using (Lalvin 71b-1122) is a strong Malic Acid metabolizer and apples contain very high amounts of Malic Acid. That would have given me a faster fermentation, although I've read that a slower fermentation works out to a better product. Update: The nutrients didn't speed up fermentation, but they will help prevent an early termination. I couldn't find the source of the leak, but it doesn't matter. The smell doesn't even fill up my closet, and smells fruity. I don't smell any hydrogen sulphide (stuff that makes farts stink) so that's good.
	"Every time you fall asleep, you die. Someone else wakes up in your body thinking they are you."


Jam	Jul 6 2012, 04:11 PM Post #22
Imported Jelly Posts: 6,139 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	Update: I checked it this morning and there are a few changes. It's bubbling faster to the point that I can hear it at a distance and it smells a bit more. The most noticeable change is that the head foam in the neck of the bottle is no longer there and the juice is a lighter colour. It started off deep purple and is now looks burgundy. Apparently this is normal and is due to pH change and metabolism. The absence of foam is, I'm quite sure, caused by a decrease in surface tension due to decrease in viscosity. Viscosity decreases mainly because sugar is removed and ethanol is produce. Ethanol disrupts the hydrogen bonding structure of water so it doesn't not stick to itself as well, and also is less dense than water so the density of the solution is decreased. Sugar is very hydrophilic and homophilic (it both sticks to itself and water by many hydrogen bonds) and increases the density of the solution so its removal decreases viscosity. Basically sugar increases bonding between molecules and ethanol decreases it. Here is the before and after comparison.
	"Every time you fall asleep, you die. Someone else wakes up in your body thinking they are you."


SunnyDeeeee	Jul 8 2012, 12:57 AM Post #23
Lieutenant Posts: 253 Group: Member Member #210 Joined: January 7, 2010	homemade yogurt is the best



SunnyDeeeee	Jul 8 2012, 12:57 AM Post #24
Lieutenant Posts: 253 Group: Member Member #210 Joined: January 7, 2010	if you make it in a clay pot it comes out even better btw absorbs some of the water so it is really thick and yummy



Jack the IV	Jul 9 2012, 09:31 PM Post #25
The Gent's Club Posts: 7,573 Group: Mr. Pink Member #43 Joined: February 19, 2008	That's actually really cool jam. My friend makes his own wine/alcohol in his basement with a ~100$ kit he bought. You can tell it's pretty cheap so it'll be interesting to see what yours turns out as.
	In battle, in the forest, at the precipice in the mountains, On the dark great sea, in the midst of javelins and arrows, In sleep, in confusion, in the depths of shame, The good deeds a man has done before defend him.


Jam	Jul 9 2012, 10:46 PM Post #26
Imported Jelly Posts: 6,139 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	Well the kit I assume is some chemicals, equipment, and instructions. What juice is he using? That has a lot to to with the taste. I'm going to use Welch's concentrate for the next batch, giving me 1$ for a 750mL bottle of wine.
	"Every time you fall asleep, you die. Someone else wakes up in your body thinking they are you."


Jack the IV	Jul 10 2012, 07:29 PM Post #27
The Gent's Club Posts: 7,573 Group: Mr. Pink Member #43 Joined: February 19, 2008	I don't think he uses juice, just extracts or plant materials.
	In battle, in the forest, at the precipice in the mountains, On the dark great sea, in the midst of javelins and arrows, In sleep, in confusion, in the depths of shame, The good deeds a man has done before defend him.


Jam	Jul 11 2012, 03:53 PM Post #28
Imported Jelly Posts: 6,139 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	Update: Fermentation is coming to an end. I noticed yesterday that a little bit of gunk was collecting at the bottom of the bottle, this is dead yeast. Today it is much more and the balloon has gone floppy instead of standing straight up. However, it is still bubbling so I have to wait until it stops and then add a teaspoon of sugar to make sure that fermentation goes all the way to completion.
	"Every time you fall asleep, you die. Someone else wakes up in your body thinking they are you."


Incog	Jul 16 2012, 09:55 AM Post #29
French Ofc Posts: 19,825 Group: iNcoG Teh WiZe Member #6 Joined: December 13, 2007	my dad might start doing this. :D when you gonna taste your stuff?
	According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead. Which is a little too permanent for my liking. Generally those who don't have to do it. Politicians and writers spring to mind. ಠ_ರೃ


Jam	Jul 16 2012, 01:38 PM Post #30
Imported Jelly Posts: 6,139 Group: A414A Member Member #98 Joined: July 11, 2008	It's sitting in the fridge right now, whenever it clears up I'll drink it. Actually when I was stirring it up I licked the stick afterwards. It's too sweet because I added too much sugar due to a miscalculation , other than that it is very sharp, very fruity, and unfortunately very acidic. It's not pleasant to drink, but it's better than liquor diluted to %20. Keep in mind that I haven't fined the wine, I just put it through a coffee filter because I was too lazy to wait for things settle to the bottom and that didn't do much. The next batch will be fined properly and will not be sweet.
	"Every time you fall asleep, you die. Someone else wakes up in your body thinking they are you."


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