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Topic Started: May 7 2013, 12:44 PM (2,839 Views)
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May 12 2013, 10:25 PM
Thanks. How does it sound?
let's just say i went to bed way too late yesterday
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Excellent. Careful with that Axe is definitely the best performance, those cymbals. I was worried that it might not turn out as well with higher end audio equipment. I just have a pair of earbuds (but they are pretty good for earbuds).

Something that confuses me about high quality headphones is that they often go up to ridiculous frequency ranges like 40kHz when the upper limit of human hearing is 20-23kHz, but a lot of them neglect bass and only go down to 15Hz or around there. I can hear down to 11Hz, but below that you can feel the bass. My earbuds do 6Hz-23kHz. You can't feel 40kHz. I'm guessing that the high end frequency waves affect the overall wave structure by interference and that has an audible effect?
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hifi equipment doesn't necessarily reach higher/lower frequencies. actually, it probably does but the reason why you'd invest in hifi is because it's much more accurate (accurate frequency response http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_response) and lacks distortion/background noise which represents the music very clearly and detailed. it's the best way to create that feeling of you actually being there (in hifi terms: a good soundstage). instruments sound separated, the tiniest details are audible (which is epic in guitar solos for example), and there is 0 background noise. the headphones i chose are especially known for being quite neutral (meaning they don't emphasize highs (treble) or lows (bass), but rather what you hear is exactly how it's intended). i can tell you, they definitely don't neglect bass. the bass is really deep and smooth. i used to have headphones which really emphasized bass and enjoyed that a lot, but the bass in these is so much smoother, and with these headphones i can actually hear the highs too.

well i could go on for ages about this but you get the point. what hifi is about is not a wider range of frequencies, but accuracy, clarity and detail. even with my desktop's circuit cards slightly distorting the music, it's still extremely clear and detailed. it's especially enjoyable when a band uses many different instruments or sound effects because they come out of nowhere and sound entirely separated from the rest of the music. that's why i said infected mushroom and pink floyd were so impressive to listen to.

but, it's not cheap... being a huge fan of music though, i figured it was worth it for me and now that i've heard it like this, i could never go back.

if you're interested you should go to a hifi shop somewhere near you (if there is one) and ask the people there to let you test out say, a $3000 setup. your jaw will drop, i assure you. if they have a testing room sorta thing with speakers, definitely try that. quality speakers set up in a room with good acoustics are other-worldly and truly a unique experience because you will likely never be able to afford it unless you wanna sell your house to get it. then again, you'd have no room to set your $50000 speakers up in.
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private investigations :o

my ears are getting raped
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...and then goodspeed never did anything productive again.

I know that frequency range isn't quality. I just thought it's odd to have an upper limit twice the limit of human hearing that songs don't even contain, but a lower limit that excludes some audible frequencies. I guess though that those extreme low frequencies don't contribute a whole lot.

I will go to the local hifi shop and blast 128kb MP3's on their highest end equipment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orFDLhpPwDg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw1NCddhvJQ
Edited by Jam, May 14 2013, 06:14 PM.
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haha and then tell them it sucks

watch them die a little inside
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May 13 2013, 09:42 PM
private investigations :o

my ears are getting raped
Of course Knopfler.

What else but Knopfler.
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private investigations is a really, really clear recording which makes a guitar (which i'm already a fan of) even more awesome since you can hear every detail.
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Makes sense. He is actually a really talented guitarist. Not flashy, but about as skilled as can be.
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you actually bring up a really good point. not flashy.

other great guitarists i feel are less about the music, more about showing off how quickly their fingers can move which in my opinion is not a skill to write home about. i love listening to knopfler's guitar solos but for example jimi hendrix's solos completely throw me off. they are often, how should i say, chaotic.

don't get me wrong, hendrix has made some sick music, but i'm a way bigger fan of knopfler's
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I think it's because of Knopfler's roots in the British pub rock scene, where the guitar is just an element of the larger composition. Really true with punk music at the time too, but unlike someone like Elvis Costello (a great musician in his own right), Knopfler has always focused on something more bluesy, more subtle. His style is a marriage of British and American elements and I think that's part of what sets him apart from other rockers of his day.

Mark Knopfler's music is as much about lyrics and the overall composition as most of what was out there in Britain, but because of the American influences in his style, he didn't hesitate to take a really defined lead in the songs--it's just that it (like the music he was raised in) involves him using his guitar to complement the song and blend into it, rather than making it just about solos.

If that makes any sense.
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it does, actually. interesting stuff. speculation on your part or something you've read somewhere?
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Skrillex best song. You might have heard this before you will know where I got it from and how epic it is hearing it for the first time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmYM7nmMG3s&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Never read it anywhere before; just something I've concluded based on his music. It's like there's a spectrum for guitarists. On the far left side you've got guys like Hendrix, where he's running the show, and the songs are really about his guitar (Fire, where he says "Move over Rover, and let JIMI TAKE OVER!"). On the right side you've got the guys like Costello, where the guitar work is a lot more subdued, and a small part of the larger whole.

It's really weird with guitarists, because so few of them are in the middle, but Knopfler's one of those guys. He's not shy about his talents and he's displayed his skills many times (Telegraph Road is the best example). And yet, even in that example, the other musicians who perform with him still get in on the action and they're not taking a total backseat.

That's what makes Knopfler timeless. He's not just a guitarist. He has such an incredible grasp of balance on his music and he incorporates it into pretty much every major release he's made.
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May 14 2013, 11:12 PM
Skrillex best song. You might have heard this before you will know where I got it from and how epic it is hearing it for the first time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmYM7nmMG3s&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Skrillex is such a mediocre, generic DJ. Like, he's far from the worst musician ever. People who say he's that bad are full of it. But he suffers from the same problem as like 90 percent of all moderately well-known electronic musicians do. His skill with making songs is really limited, and so is his creativity. He just gets a bunch of sounds and just throws them against a wall, sees what works, calls it a day. Although, to his credit, not all of his songs sound vaguely the same (Hint, Zedd, hint hint).
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Huh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvDMlk3kSYg
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May 14 2013, 11:26 PM
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May 14 2013, 11:12 PM
Skrillex best song. You might have heard this before you will know where I got it from and how epic it is hearing it for the first time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmYM7nmMG3s&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Skrillex is such a mediocre, generic DJ. Like, he's far from the worst musician ever. People who say he's that bad are full of it. But he suffers from the same problem as like 90 percent of all moderately well-known electronic musicians do. His skill with making songs is really limited, and so is his creativity. He just gets a bunch of sounds and just throws them against a wall, sees what works, calls it a day. Although, to his credit, not all of his songs sound vaguely the same (Hint, Zedd, hint hint).
But when his synthing and dropping and his hunger for bass became known to more and more people, the demands to do something about his outrageous band became louder and louder.
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May 14 2013, 11:12 PM
Skrillex best song. You might have heard this before you will know where I got it from and how epic it is hearing it for the first time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmYM7nmMG3s&feature=youtube_gdata_player
pathetic bass. could be the recording, but actually it's something i've come to realise now that i have this equipment: basically every recording that involves electronic bass sounds relatively terrible, in stark contrast with how an actual bass guitar sounds with this setup. dubstep should demolish your ears when the bass drops, but it's just painfully unimpressive now. at least, what i've heard. anyone here a dub fan? please link some stuff and change my mind.

also, i don't think skrillex is bad at all but he's making the wrong kind of music. he's got talent though, i think this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1hjsVLcGFc song proves that. actually, maybe i overrate it because i love piano. someone either confirm or deny this

@red: quite right. david gilmour comes to mind (also english hmm ). i'm a big fan of guitars, but the song shouldn't revolve around them. (there are exceptions http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D5E1Ar8G8Q)
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Not sure it's meant to have a lot of bass GS, it has a reggae vibe. I am not a huge fan of dub step but I can appreciate it. Skrillex is decent.
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it's definitely meant to have a lot of bass but it's not smooth

compare it to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdhlVXb9hP0

i can hardly hear 10 hz, 20 is pretty insane if i turn up the volume :o
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Action packed eargasm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsBd9tPK4uE
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GS you'd find this funny, the beginning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTlN6wjcvQ
Edited by Jam, Sep 25 2013, 02:07 AM.
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what about it

i'm not one of those people who buys 1000$ wires. there's a limit to the amount of money you can spend and still hear a difference and i'm also pretty sure the human ear can't hear the difference between flac/wav and mp3, at least in my experience.

but there is a huge difference in clarity between what i have now and what i had, i know that much. and with better clarity comes a more realistic soundstage and the possibility to hear details that would otherwise be inaudible.
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I wasn't saying that. I found this video while doing research on audio equipment to go along with my new PC and I thought you would find it funny and interesting because you're into audio stuff. I'm not saying you fall for that stuff.
What I'm getting is

x fi titanium HD sound card
FiiO E6 amp
ATH-M40fs headphones
Edited by Jam, Sep 26 2013, 01:24 AM.
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Anyone recommend any good (in ear) ear phones?
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I can recommend the cheap ones I have, panasonic RP-HJE200-K if you're on a $30 dollar budget. I can't say how they compare to other models though.
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I have actually heard Panasonic are very good for the price. Not really on a budget, probably $60 range.
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Take a look at these:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/632149/review-beyerdynamic-xp-series-great-budget-iems
http://www.inearmatters.net/2013/05/review-beyerdynamic-xp1-xp2-and-xp3.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/758631-REG/Shure_SE215_K_SE215_Sound_Isolating_In_Ear_Stereo.html
Edited by Jam, Oct 26 2013, 12:37 AM.
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They actually look decent Jam, will have a look, thanks.
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CHEERIO!

HD650 those are $500 cans

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