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Now I am conflicted
Topic Started: Mar 11 2014, 08:31 PM (857 Views)
Jam
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I invoke the right to parley. Also I'll be pirate number E.
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Ichigo1uk
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Huh?
D, since E can't throw you overboard by outvoting
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Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM
I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
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E could forget about the vote and just throw D overboard by surprise, keeping the gold for himself. Since D and E are the only two left, there is no backup and no one to tell of E's wrong-doing. Yarr.
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CHEERIO!

OK look how about this, in order of positions asked:

A:
B: incog
C: Ichi
D: goodspeed
E: Jam


We still need pirate A.


Also re-read the rules very carefully.

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There are 5 rational pirates, A, B, C, D and E. They find 100 gold coins. They must decide how to distribute them.

The pirates have a strict order of seniority: A is superior to B, who is superior to C, who is superior to D, who is superior to E.

The pirate world's rules of distribution are thus: that the most senior pirate should propose a distribution of coins. The pirates, including the proposer, then vote on whether to accept this distribution. If the proposed allocation is approved by a majority or a tie vote, it happens. If not, the proposer is thrown overboard from the pirate ship and dies, and the next most senior pirate makes a new proposal to begin the system again.[1]

Pirates base their decisions on three factors. First of all, each pirate wants to survive. Second, given survival, each pirate wants to maximize the number of gold coins he receives. Third, each pirate would prefer to throw another overboard, if all other results would otherwise be equal.[2] The pirates do not trust each other, and will neither make nor honor any promises between pirates apart from the main proposal.



Vondonglong / red, will you do us the honors of being A? If so we can get this party started.
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gs
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i don't understand why incog is not A "because he knows stuff". that means A can somehow always win but how? what am i missing hmm

anyway how do you even "win" this? if you live and get the most gold?
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I guess I'll choose A since it's the only one left.

And yes, I am a horrid person for daring to pirate video games, aren't I?
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so what's your proposal
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CHEERIO!

yosh, ultra is A:

A: ultra
B: incog
C: Ichi
D: goodspeed
E: Jam


gogo
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I propose that Incog and Ichi receive 50 gold coins each.
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Overboard with ye, says E.
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omg no
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i also vote overboard, obviously

hmm

if i get to decide i just give 100 to myself. if ichi gets to decide he can give 99 coins to himself and 1 to jam, and then jam would have to vote yes because otherwise i would just give 100 to myself. so if it gets to incog, he can give 99 to himself and 1 to me and i would have to vote yes because otherwise i end up with nothing.

so andy shouldve gone with 2 to me, 1 to jam and 97 to himself. both me and jam would have to take that deal.

am i missing something?
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gs
Apr 16 2014, 07:46 AM
i don't understand why incog is not A "because he knows stuff". that means A can somehow always win but how? what am i missing hmm

anyway how do you even "win" this? if you live and get the most gold?
The first goal is to not die, the second goal is to get as much coins as possible.


I don't know if you're missing anything or not. I briefly read potential strategies for A so I decided not to take A for that very reason; just for a more fair game. It's actually a weird game, lol


Anyway, I vote OK to ultra's proposition.

it's all up to ichi now.
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CHEERIO!

remember that a tie means the proposition goes through!
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i know the priorities, my scenario holds up

why would you vote ok?? if you don't you get 99 coins right
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Huh?
I'd naturally say yes because I survive and I tie for most gold, win win.
Incog
Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM
I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
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Ichigo1uk
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Huh?
Oh.. or because of the rules saying if the first 2 equal, I have to decline and throw them overboard.

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Pirates base their decisions on three factors. First of all, each pirate wants to survive. Second, given survival, each pirate wants to maximize the number of gold coins he receives. Third, each pirate would prefer to throw another overboard, if all other results would otherwise be equal.
Incog
Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM
I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
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The_Fry_Cook_of_Doom
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So do I get to live or
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he said ok first. no take backs. proposal accepted?
my name is ryker
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Apr 17 2014, 03:58 AM
he said ok first. no take backs. proposal accepted?
Stowaway!
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so we throw ryker overboard.

everyone is here and incog and ichi both have 50 coins.

now what
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i guess start over?

you shouldnt have taken that deal incog :@
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We need to modify the rules slightly so that we don't get these retarded situations. xD

I mean, if I had taken the deal it would be 100% safety. If I hadn't, I'd be in that top spot and I would have said, 99 for me and 1 for Jam. Jam would have agreed since that's his only way out, since he can't duel you.
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nope jam would have declined because he would prefer to throw you overboard if all else is equal, and ichi would have to offer jam 1 coin too in order to stay alive.

so you should've offered me 1, you 99. the only way i was ever gonna get a coin is to accept that beacuse ichi would offer jam 1 and me 0.

read my earlier post carefully it's all there
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Damn you and your logic. I was just making judgments based on intuition.
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I know how to modify the rules, do it in more than one round. say there are 1000 coins. you don't have to try to divy the entire pot out at first. You keep going around and around until one person ends up with the most coins.
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