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Topic Started: May 30 2014, 05:21 PM (1,285 Views)
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May 31 2014, 08:51 PM
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May 31 2014, 06:52 AM
I wouldn't say 'stolen'. Religions evolve just like any other idea, and receive influence from the religions that came before them.
On a positive note, Atheist is the fastest growing belief in the US!
Yo are the second atheist so there was an increase of 100%? :P

But your story actually sucks, your mother and your mother in law should stop complaining. They doubt the power of God if they are trying to intervene between you and God...
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Serious consequences being that hard determinism is true. Our whole life is already mapped out ahead of us and we are powerless to change it. Hitler wasn't a bad man, he was just a chemical reaction.
our theoretical predictability doesn't change our society's perspectve on what is good and bad and hitler was bad. anyway i fail to see how these are "serious consequences". just because we're meant to do great things or bad things doesn't make those things any less great or bad. in the grand scheme of things i can imagine you feel powerless but from the human (including your own) perspective you are unpredictable and totally free to do whatever you want. no one understands your brain well enough to actually make these predictions.
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And my other point isn't really out there as it gives a solution to the unsolvable problem of free will. You are under the assumption that we live in a computer simulation, so rules cannot be broken. Just because we observe a certain set of rules does not mean they are always in effect.
obviously our rules aren't certain, but that doesn't mean your point is not out there. speculation that breaks our laws of nature is by definition out there, especially when there is zero evidence to support it. there's no unsolvable problem of free will, maybe in your society they pretend it's actually a question but from a scientific point of view we have no reason to doubt these rules and our brian acting predictably fits with them, your theory does not.
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You have a consciousness; you can think. It seems way too easy to write it off as just something that arises out of a chemical and physical reaction.
does it? maybe to you. we don't yet understand how our consciousness works, but what makes you think it's so special? as soon as our evolved brains got intelligent enough to realise we exist is when we became conscious, to me this seems like a natural byproduct of our evolved ability for pattern recognition.

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i think consciousness is just an upper level brain function which is combining the information from other brain functions in order to paint a full picture of the situation we are currently in so that it can efficiently determine what it should be focusing its attention on. whatever it ends up focusing its attention on is currently "on your mind".

that scenario seems the most likely to me, at least. this brain function is intelligent enough to notice that we are an object among many other objects which gives us the idea of a "self". if a function like this would ever be implemented into a robot's software, then yes it would become self aware. it would see its arms and legs move independently from the earth and notice how it can control them which would make it self-aware.

either way consciousness is not that magical at all and doesn't deserve the hype. it is just a naturally evolved function of a well-developed brain. oh and btw, i laugh at the general human assumption that we are the only conscious animal.
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does it? maybe to you. we don't yet understand how our consciousness works, but what makes you think it's so special? as soon as our evolved brains got intelligent enough to realise we exist is when we became conscious, to me this seems like a natural byproduct of our evolved ability for pattern recognition.


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Surprise, motherfuckers.
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hey man what's up? long time no see

how are you doing?
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I'm good, moving to another town in like a month (got studies starting there in autumn) and so forth. Things working out.

Whazzaa yourself? :P
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glad to hear that

me i'm fine. cba to give more details thatn that
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Bring back Himmelmann16 IMO.
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Didn't he leave because he got upset over some argument?
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ye he tried to argue against evolution iirc
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didn't he get nuked? account + posts deleted? on request obviously
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Hey guys not everyone believes in evolution.
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I met some guy while at work that used the Bible as evidence for the Bible being the word of God.
In battle, in the forest, at the precipice in the mountains,
On the dark great sea, in the midst of javelins and arrows,
In sleep, in confusion, in the depths of shame,
The good deeds a man has done before defend him.
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someone i played a bunch of aoe with is suddenly trying to convince me that jews control everything

like, everything

[20-6-2014 21:36:20] Jack Dixon: And what are your views on 911? I don't for one bit believe terrorists of the Middle East could take multiple passenger planes and crash them in one of the most secure countries in the world
[20-6-2014 21:36:34] Jack Dixon: It's uneeal
[20-6-2014 21:36:39] Mart: oh you're one of those?
[20-6-2014 21:36:41] Jack Dixon: Unreal
[20-6-2014 21:36:57] Mart: who then did it
[20-6-2014 21:37:48] Jack Dixon: Did you know that when the media released footage and recorded audio of people saying what they saw, they only let out the ones that said it was a passenger plane
[20-6-2014 21:37:51] Jack Dixon: Nothing else
[20-6-2014 21:37:57] Jack Dixon: They disregarded everything else
[20-6-2014 21:38:05] Jack Dixon: And there was many other claims
[20-6-2014 21:38:08] Mart: who did it
[20-6-2014 21:38:15] Jack Dixon: Who do you think did it?
[20-6-2014 21:38:16] Mart: if not terrorists
[20-6-2014 21:38:35] Mart: i wanna say terrorists... lol
[20-6-2014 21:39:32] Jack Dixon: Also did you know a shipping company half owned by the rothchilds pulled out of the World Trade Center after years, a week before the attack?
[20-6-2014 21:39:37] Jack Dixon: Can you explain that?
[20-6-2014 21:40:18] Mart: so you're saying jews did it
[20-6-2014 21:40:28] Mart: is that it?
[20-6-2014 21:40:28] Jack Dixon: Yes, yes I am
[20-6-2014 21:40:45] Jack Dixon: The us government is controlled by Jews
[20-6-2014 21:41:15] Jack Dixon: Anyway I've gtg out for dinner with family
[20-6-2014 21:41:21] Mart: i'm just gonna skip the "youre delusional"
[20-6-2014 21:41:25] Mart: and go straight to
[20-6-2014 21:41:28] Mart: why the hell would you think this???
[20-6-2014 21:42:18] Jack Dixon: I'm just gonna skip the "you're a media believing sheep that is so deluded by the lies that are spewed by the Jew controlled media" and go out and eat FOOD
[20-6-2014 21:42:50] Mart: i'm only gonna say 1 thing
[20-6-2014 21:42:52] Jack Dixon: trust me, read information, research sources
[20-6-2014 21:43:07] Mart: the single argument that disproves all conspiracy theories
[20-6-2014 21:43:26] Mart: no one, not one group of people, is competent enough to run this large of a conspiracy and keep it secret
[20-6-2014 21:43:37] Mart: you think on that while eating dinner ;p
[20-6-2014 21:43:40] Jack Dixon: The internet is the only thing that is not fully controlled, read information
[20-6-2014 21:46:45] Jack Dixon: http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=7vsPii6wAlw
[20-6-2014 21:46:53] Jack Dixon: Anyway i gtg now
[20-6-2014 21:46:56] Jack Dixon: Cya!
[20-6-2014 21:47:32] Mart: lol
[20-6-2014 21:47:32] Mart: first comment
[20-6-2014 21:47:35] Mart: Several years ago The History Channel ran a full week with a common theme: The World's Greatest Hoaxes. The Protocol of the Learned Elders of Zion was included in that list. Over and over again in that History Channel presentation they stated that The Protocol of the Learned Elders of Zion was a hoax.

Just like you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink, you can also lead a person to knowledge but you can't make him think.
[20-6-2014 21:48:32] Jack Dixon: They wanted to hammer into your mind that it's fake. Of course they would. Don't be a sheep
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The Jews are behind everything man, they're even behind you right now!
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never realized jews were beds
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Your bed is standing up?
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Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM
I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
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I don't get now people can be so ignorant to not believe in evolution. I just got into an argument with one guy on a yahoo article, lol. His ignorance was insane. He kept making comments before he posted that I have to go do XYZ but am giddy with excitement to tear apart your arguments. He would come back a couple hours later, quote me in misleading ways that made it sound as if I was saying something completely different as it was taken out of context, and then argue that out of context easily countered point. I would correct him on what I was saying and he would say the exact same thing. He kept saying provide me the scientific method on how evolution is true. Provide me the scientific method on how the universe is older than 6000 years, etc etc etc. Then he took my answers, changed them, and argued what he changed them to. I corrected him again, and said you explain the existence of god, how evolution isn't possible, and how the world is 6000 years old using only the scientific method. His answer was that my beliefs are bound by the scientific method being science, crappy science but science, that isn't true. His is godly and follows no rules. Some people should not be allowed to produce offspring. He told me this, "Sir, I ask for your credentials as you claim to be educated in the scientific method by degree and think you are so smart." I told him a bachelors in Chemistry working on masters in quality management, and I asked for his. He was a music history major dropout his sophomore year. but is way smarter than me because he isn't brainwashed by the "science cloud of falsehood"... WTF? I am not dogging him for dropping out as college just isn't for some people but he was arguing with me on things I would be considered an expert on...
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Jun 23 2014, 08:13 AM
never realized jews were beds
You looked! :p
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well i'm afraid of juiz
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Huh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpOIP0ZutGM
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Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM
I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bfc_1405832575
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Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM
I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
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Where do you find this shit ichi?
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Finding shit on the internet is like finding a needle in a sewing kit.
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Holy shit... owowow.....
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