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Aug 5 2014, 11:48 PM
Loosing the sharpness of ones mind is a scary thought indeed. Would anyone here ever consider downloading your consciousness, memory, and personality (or pretty much your complete mental existence) onto a computer even if that meant giving up your flesh body? I would do it in a heartbeat. You could always control a robot in place of a flesh body!
But would it be you, or someone else who is exactly like you.
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was it not you that posted that thing about the guy who was against teleportation because he thought it killed you and created a new person? Then he met the creator and became concerned that every time you go to sleep you technically die because for all intensive purposes you loose consciousness therefore when one wakes up it isn't the same person but rather a new person awaking from nothing?

Yeah, it'd be kinda like that.
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But if you downloaded yourself and your human body continued to live...your consciousness would remain in your body. If you killed your human body your consciousness wouldn't suddenly move to the robot.
In battle, in the forest, at the precipice in the mountains,
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I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
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If it is a destructive transfer it would be. I would assume that you would already be dead, they would cut your brain up into tiny pieces, scan those tiny pieces, re- assemble it digitally, and mimic your neurological functions. your brain would give it data of life all the way up until death, essentially, it would be like dying, and brought back to life only digitally.
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What if you never died biologically but you were still created digitally? There would be two of you with the same consciousness no?
In battle, in the forest, at the precipice in the mountains,
On the dark great sea, in the midst of javelins and arrows,
In sleep, in confusion, in the depths of shame,
The good deeds a man has done before defend him.
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Aug 8 2014, 07:39 AM
What if you never died biologically but you were still created digitally? There would be two of you with the same consciousness no?
yeah you'd have the same brain, the same memories, but you would think different thoughts since outside influence is going to be different unless you somehow occupy the exact same space at every point in time.
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But if you downloaded yourself and your human body continued to live...your consciousness would remain in your body. If you killed your human body your consciousness wouldn't suddenly move to the robot.
your "consciousness" which is a part of your brain moves wherever your brain moves...

it's like when you would cut your hand and paste it onto a robot (think of this in computer cut & paste terms). your hand isn't moving from your body to his, it's just disappearing in one place and appearing in another. you could perceive that as the hand moving from one place to another but it's really not. copy paste is the same thing, except whatever you copied doesn't disappear from the original space.
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What if you split your brain in two, making the left side of your brain independent of the right side?
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You'd have to cut right through the front part of the brain that is responsible for consciousness and personality and other trivial things like that.
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The what part?

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I mean severing what is apparently called the corpus callosum which connects the two opposing hemispheres of the brain.
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split-brain
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfGwsAdS9Dc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFJPtVRlI64

I wonder if they have trouble typing.
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Aug 8 2014, 11:09 AM
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Aug 8 2014, 07:39 AM
What if you never died biologically but you were still created digitally? There would be two of you with the same consciousness no?
yeah you'd have the same brain, the same memories, but you would think different thoughts since outside influence is going to be different unless you somehow occupy the exact same space at every point in time.
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But if you downloaded yourself and your human body continued to live...your consciousness would remain in your body. If you killed your human body your consciousness wouldn't suddenly move to the robot.
your "consciousness" which is a part of your brain moves wherever your brain moves...

it's like when you would cut your hand and paste it onto a robot (think of this in computer cut & paste terms). your hand isn't moving from your body to his, it's just disappearing in one place and appearing in another. you could perceive that as the hand moving from one place to another but it's really not. copy paste is the same thing, except whatever you copied doesn't disappear from the original space.
So you're saying if I died and then a copy was made of me, I would be "reborn" in that copy. However, if I didn't die and a copy was made of me, I would remain in my original self and the copy would become a different entity?

That makes no sense. Consciousness can't just transfer like a hand.
In battle, in the forest, at the precipice in the mountains,
On the dark great sea, in the midst of javelins and arrows,
In sleep, in confusion, in the depths of shame,
The good deeds a man has done before defend him.
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Two brains, one body :OOOOOOOO

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Jack the IV
Aug 8 2014, 06:57 PM
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Aug 8 2014, 11:09 AM
Jack the IV
Aug 8 2014, 07:39 AM
What if you never died biologically but you were still created digitally? There would be two of you with the same consciousness no?
yeah you'd have the same brain, the same memories, but you would think different thoughts since outside influence is going to be different unless you somehow occupy the exact same space at every point in time.
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But if you downloaded yourself and your human body continued to live...your consciousness would remain in your body. If you killed your human body your consciousness wouldn't suddenly move to the robot.
your "consciousness" which is a part of your brain moves wherever your brain moves...

it's like when you would cut your hand and paste it onto a robot (think of this in computer cut & paste terms). your hand isn't moving from your body to his, it's just disappearing in one place and appearing in another. you could perceive that as the hand moving from one place to another but it's really not. copy paste is the same thing, except whatever you copied doesn't disappear from the original space.
So you're saying if I died and then a copy was made of me, I would be "reborn" in that copy. However, if I didn't die and a copy was made of me, I would remain in my original self and the copy would become a different entity?

That makes no sense. Consciousness can't just transfer like a hand.
If you were still alive, then your copy and you would be the same person for an instant. As soon as you started having different experiences and collecting different memories, your identities would diverge.

That being said, tomorrow morning I'm going to wake up with a slightly different set of memories to what I have now, but no one who knows me would say that I'll become a completely different person as a result of this.
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Aug 8 2014, 07:06 PM
Jack the IV
Aug 8 2014, 06:57 PM
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Aug 8 2014, 11:09 AM
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Aug 8 2014, 07:39 AM
What if you never died biologically but you were still created digitally? There would be two of you with the same consciousness no?
yeah you'd have the same brain, the same memories, but you would think different thoughts since outside influence is going to be different unless you somehow occupy the exact same space at every point in time.
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But if you downloaded yourself and your human body continued to live...your consciousness would remain in your body. If you killed your human body your consciousness wouldn't suddenly move to the robot.
your "consciousness" which is a part of your brain moves wherever your brain moves...

it's like when you would cut your hand and paste it onto a robot (think of this in computer cut & paste terms). your hand isn't moving from your body to his, it's just disappearing in one place and appearing in another. you could perceive that as the hand moving from one place to another but it's really not. copy paste is the same thing, except whatever you copied doesn't disappear from the original space.
So you're saying if I died and then a copy was made of me, I would be "reborn" in that copy. However, if I didn't die and a copy was made of me, I would remain in my original self and the copy would become a different entity?

That makes no sense. Consciousness can't just transfer like a hand.
If you were still alive, then your copy and you would be the same person for an instant. As soon as you started having different experiences and collecting different memories, your identities would diverge.

That being said, tomorrow morning I'm going to wake up with a slightly different set of memories to what I have now, but no one who knows me would say that I'll become a completely different person as a result of this.
Ultra pointed out the logic that makes GS and my scenario true.

if you are copied and not transferred, then you are the same person until external experiences dictate that you are different entities. If your brain is transferred as opposed to making a copy, there is no chance for your identical consciousness to split into two pathways ultimately making two separate consciousness systems. It is transferred from one place to another.

Your logic is like saying that my brain now is not made of the same atoms (not even remotely close 70% of the atoms of your body are replaced every 14 days and all atoms are replaced at minimum every year) as they were 1 year ago therefore it is a different person each time. what makes me, well me, is my experiences, decisions, and consciousness. If I am never given a chance to split into two separate consciousnesses, then I am in essence the same conscious progressed further than the current one, whether digitally or flesh.

Fun fact, My body has cycled every atom in my body at least 25 times, and if you count the ones that are recycled more often (hydrogen and oxygen) my body has changed atoms thousands of times in my life time. in fact, there is a 100% probability that i harbor atoms in my body at this moment that once harbored by you, GS, Ultra, Albert Einstein, Abraham, every member and every member of pink floyd. In fact, by the time you are 1 year old, you harbor atoms from every person that has ever existed in the history of humans that was born at the same time or before you.

Oh did you see that GS? there is a 100% chance you are part Pink Floyd and they are part you!
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And we're all just glorified, self-aware stardust.
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glorified self aware stardust with atoms from every person who died in WW2 floating around somewhere inside of us....
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Aug 8 2014, 06:57 PM
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Aug 8 2014, 07:39 AM
What if you never died biologically but you were still created digitally? There would be two of you with the same consciousness no?
yeah you'd have the same brain, the same memories, but you would think different thoughts since outside influence is going to be different unless you somehow occupy the exact same space at every point in time.
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But if you downloaded yourself and your human body continued to live...your consciousness would remain in your body. If you killed your human body your consciousness wouldn't suddenly move to the robot.
your "consciousness" which is a part of your brain moves wherever your brain moves...

it's like when you would cut your hand and paste it onto a robot (think of this in computer cut & paste terms). your hand isn't moving from your body to his, it's just disappearing in one place and appearing in another. you could perceive that as the hand moving from one place to another but it's really not. copy paste is the same thing, except whatever you copied doesn't disappear from the original space.
So you're saying if I died and then a copy was made of me, I would be "reborn" in that copy. However, if I didn't die and a copy was made of me, I would remain in my original self and the copy would become a different entity?

That makes no sense. Consciousness can't just transfer like a hand.
if not from our brains, where does our consciouness come from according to you?
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(facepalm)
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Steins gate was a great anime
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the anime changed the ending to something cheesy :( but yeah it makes sense that a story like that would produce a good anime
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CHEERIO!

Did someone start KS but didn't go through?

Having played / read it myself, I actually kind of recommend KS. It's a niche in a niche, but at the same time it's refreshing. I enjoyed it;
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Aug 19 2014, 06:52 AM
Did someone start KS but didn't go through?
i know right
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CHEERIO!

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Aug 19 2014, 06:52 AM
Did someone start KS but didn't go through?
i know right
+1

i dare anyone to go through to the end
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Nah I ain't got time for that

Besides why would I play KS when I can play eu4
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Huh?
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Jan 19 2012, 05:34 PM
I think unicorns have a higher chance of existing than gods do. I mean, if a mare fell into the ocean and a narwhal raped it, then the mare might just give birth to a unicorn.
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