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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 31 2008, 03:23 AM (337 Views) | |
| bzr97 | Jul 31 2008, 03:23 AM Post #1 |
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Hi Thinking about getting the Toda lightened flywheel (4.4kg) for my levin. Just want to check whoever has one installed on their car and whats it like compared to the factory spec. I heard stories that it effect driveability, its easier to stall, rougher idle etc.... Any feedback would be much appreciated. Cheers |
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| BZ-G | Jul 31 2008, 03:49 AM Post #2 |
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It would be a good idea to use the search icon to find more about it but i'll give you some links to members who have done reviews on it.... http://s15.zetaboards.com/AE111_Forum/topic/131124/3/ http://s15.zetaboards.com/AE111_Forum/topic/6522259/1/ |
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| bzr97 | Jul 31 2008, 04:19 AM Post #3 |
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Thanks for that BZ-G, I have seen your post before but missed the other one. Just wanted to see the general feedback from ppl who have installed one. Cheers
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| chiksluvit | Jul 31 2008, 04:29 AM Post #4 |
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does slightly affect drivability, check the links for detail idles fine, doesn't stall easily unless the driver's bad at driving manual |
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| AceSniper | Jul 31 2008, 05:46 AM Post #5 |
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Dont think you would have any stalling problems as long as the idle rpm is right however a race clutch things can get tricky |
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| bzr97 | Jul 31 2008, 06:03 AM Post #6 |
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Chiksluvit, Have read your post, lots of good info! cheers There is a guy on TwinCam.Org from Bris selling the Toda Flywheel for $350.00. Is it a worth while investment? At the moment im just trying to do smart mods and make the engine as efficient as possible without changing internals. I also wanna enjoy close to standard drivalibity, hassle free...... You have mentioned in your post that in summer when you turn the air con, the car felt a bit unresponsive with the Toda flywheel. In your judgement was there a big difference when compared to the stock one. In summer when i turned the aircon the car(stock) it took a lot of the car's responsiveness away and it felt like it took a bit longer to build the revs up. Would you also know the weight of the stockfly wheel on the black top? Lastly where abouts in Syd are you based? Have noticed there is a bit more AE111s around these days..... Hope not too many young guys start jumping on the band wagon and all start getting our cars and kill the rarity of it. Sydney seems to be famous for that sort of stuff, once someone discovers something unique, everyone wants to get it! |
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| BZ-G | Jul 31 2008, 06:24 AM Post #7 |
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well i don't know the difference between stock and TODA flywheel since when i install a manual gearbox (used to be auto) i got the TODA flywheel straight away to fit it in... so to me it felt very normal... didn't have any issues with drivability since i had nothing to compare it with.... so got used to it... sometimes buying any second hand clutch you got to be cautious about the life span of the clutch it self, for example if the fly wheel has been worn down quite a bit or not and if like the organic disc also worn or not and the clutch cover is worned on the inner plates or not... things like those... and when the fly wheel is worn a bit then you can lose bit of grip/bite.... so you need to know the condition of it... first before considering about buying second hand stuff... Edited by BZ-G, Jul 31 2008, 06:25 AM.
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| chiksluvit | Jul 31 2008, 07:22 AM Post #8 |
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like BZ-G said, watch out on second hand clutch/flywheels. if it's just flywheel then it's usually ok... TODA flywheel is made of billet chromoly which is a lot tougher than standard steel flywheel, so most of them shouldn't be too worn.. just make sure it's machined before you put it on, for 350 i think it's not too bad if the condition is alright second hand pressure plate and clutch disc then i'm actually against it, for the same reason why you won't use second hand brake disc and pads.. it's been a long time since i had the toda clutch, it was only in the first 4 mths of 2.5 years of ownership of my car when i had the stock clutch, so honestly i can't tell you the difference... i only vaguely remember i didnt mind the stock clutch with aircon on while car's on full load, but was a bit annoyed driving with aircon on, plus full load with the toda flywheel.. driving alone then the toda flywheel is beautiful, add a passenger with aircon on it's still tolerable for me, add another passenger then it'll start to feel like a yaris or hyundai excel i think.. i think the weight of the stock flywheel is about 6.5kg, which is already pretty light, and lighter than ae101 flywheel, but i stand corrected with the flywheel weight.. i'm located in the north shore, how about you? welcome to join us in our next meet if you can (not that it's been planned yet) Edited by chiksluvit, Jul 31 2008, 07:28 AM.
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| bzr97 | Aug 1 2008, 03:11 AM Post #9 |
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Thanks for the feedback guys! I take it the Toda flywheel is still liveable for normal daily driving, the car might get a little bit more slugish under full load (say with a couple of passangers in the car and A/C on but apart from that should be fine......? Is there there a noticeable improvement in acceleration?? Chiksluvit, im based south west, next time something is on, might consider venturing out and meet up. Cheers
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| BZ-G | Aug 1 2008, 03:40 AM Post #10 |
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i personally think better response in acceleration (like rpm in up shifting and down shifting) compared to riding in other AE111 cars... |
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| chiksluvit | Aug 1 2008, 04:31 AM Post #11 |
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like BZ-G said, acceleration improvement is noticeable what i was trying to say about the car being full load applies in situations when you're launching, hill start, and re-accelerate when off accelerator on steep hills (revs drop faster when off accelerator)... i do go to the liverpool area quite often to visit my mechanic, maybe we can meet up sometime there too Edited by chiksluvit, Aug 1 2008, 04:32 AM.
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| AceSniper | Aug 1 2008, 04:52 AM Post #12 |
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flywheel wear shouldnt be an issue if a organic disc has been used, using a new clutch kit means machining the flywheel... so the standoff also has to be machined to spec... so no issue there, look for heat marks on the back a little is ok but dark blue spots in just a few spots could mean there has been problems and the face could have bad wear (that you cant see) |
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| devo | Aug 4 2008, 07:17 PM Post #13 |
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i have one and i absolutely love it, feels it gets the power to the wheels tat little bit quicker, couture auto in ireland have them, iv no stalling problems wat so ever. |
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| doug20v | Jun 7 2010, 06:40 PM Post #14 |
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i have one in my car as of last week. i love it. the car feels more eager to get going it revs faster i did notice if i have my air con on full and i rev the car it revs down very fast! id recomend gettin one any way! |
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| n2o | Jun 8 2010, 05:26 AM Post #15 |
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one of the trade offs for a more responsive throttle is a quicker loss of revs due to the lighter fly wheel being unable to keep the spinning momentum |
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