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Side demisters - why don't our cars have them?; Just wondering...
Topic Started: Sep 11 2008, 12:32 PM (533 Views)
Shovelnose
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Just about every modern car has small side vents on the top of the side of the dash to direct air to the side windows.

Why don't the AE111's have this? It is not as if you can rotate the airflow of the front side ventilation outlets to the side windows.
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frax
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Shovelnose
Sep 11 2008, 12:32 PM
Just about every modern car has small side vents on the top of the side of the dash to direct air to the side windows.

Why don't the AE111's have this? It is not as if you can rotate the airflow of the front side ventilation outlets to the side windows.
mine does???
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devo
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ye iv side vents to,but iin the rain its :wall: :wall: :wall: shit,because its stems up so really really bad like
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devo
Sep 11 2008, 02:08 PM
ye iv side vents to,but iin the rain its :wall: :wall: :wall: shit,because its stems up so really really bad like
mine steams up really bad whenever it wants lol. these smaller cars are bloody awfull for it.
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devo
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so annoin aint it then u put the heatin on to clear it up then ur sweatin,jus a big cycle then ha
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chiksluvit
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toyota axed the side demisters on the ae111 in the name of cost cutting
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TRUENOSAM
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Mine has them too :whistle:
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chiksluvit
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that wasn't even an option afaik
got a photo of it people?
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BZ-G
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aka Hyper Rev 4...
actually guys, to clear or demist windows/glass you don't have to use high temp heating.... there's a very very quick way of getting rid off them... just use a/c!!! in any temp will clear/demist the window/glass.... cold a/c on works a lot faster than just normal high temp heating.... :whistle:
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chiksluvit
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true.. but you still need to aim the side vents at the door window to clear mist quick enough

very annoying that is, especially on passenger side
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Peter
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wind the windows down???
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Shovelnose
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Peter
Sep 12 2008, 10:00 AM
wind the windows down???
Not when it's cold

I'm sure other cheapish Toyotas of the period had vents aimed at the side windows
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well they spent too much money on R&D the engine and chassis

so when they're finally designing the interior, the designer thought... oh shite, gotta cut the cost down a bit or someone will get fired

we've got cost cutting interior, compare it to ae101 and you'll see why
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chiksluvit
Sep 12 2008, 11:41 AM
well they spent too much money on R&D the engine and chassis

so when they're finally designing the interior, the designer thought... oh shite, gotta cut the cost down a bit or someone will get fired

we've got cost cutting interior, compare it to ae101 and you'll see why
That sounds like the manufacture that i work for. :D Spends millions on how it looks and then throws a ten year old engine on a five year old chassis and calls it a 'all new' model :$


I have seen the interior of a AE101 and it was a bit more equipped that the AE111.Still dull like any other jap motor though
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devo
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jap motors are damn right dull,dull isn even the word,id use TERRIBLE,comfort na,design na,can go for ages,but the one thing they look at it performance,handling,and they come up trumps.
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Sep 12 2008, 10:41 PM
chiksluvit
Sep 12 2008, 11:41 AM
well they spent too much money on R&D the engine and chassis

so when they're finally designing the interior, the designer thought... oh shite, gotta cut the cost down a bit or someone will get fired

we've got cost cutting interior, compare it to ae101 and you'll see why
That sounds like the manufacture that i work for. :D Spends millions on how it looks and then throws a ten year old engine on a five year old chassis and calls it a 'all new' model :$


I have seen the interior of a AE101 and it was a bit more equipped that the AE111.Still dull like any other jap motor though
you don't work for vauxhall by any chance?

what you've described sounds like astra to me
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Bahahahaha, at least I know I'll make it around the corner without any signification mechanical or structural failure lolskies. European interior not that much better either unless you fork out a lot a lot of $$$.
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chiksluvit
Sep 13 2008, 09:45 AM
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Sep 12 2008, 10:41 PM
chiksluvit
Sep 12 2008, 11:41 AM
well they spent too much money on R&D the engine and chassis

so when they're finally designing the interior, the designer thought... oh shite, gotta cut the cost down a bit or someone will get fired

we've got cost cutting interior, compare it to ae101 and you'll see why
That sounds like the manufacture that i work for. :D Spends millions on how it looks and then throws a ten year old engine on a five year old chassis and calls it a 'all new' model :$


I have seen the interior of a AE101 and it was a bit more equipped that the AE111.Still dull like any other jap motor though
you don't work for vauxhall by any chance?

what you've described sounds like astra to me
No i dont work for Vauxhaull but dont get me started on them :D
I work for Jaguar
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oh Jag..

yah they gotta stay with the tradition mate... somethng old's gonna have to stay

seriously, it's managed by ford, a car manufacturer ran by accountants, so u gotta expect these things...

on the other hand, the chassis of the ae111 was from an old ae92 chassis anyway, just revised so it's got higher rigidity
and the 4age- its more than 10 years old
at least toyota's spent enough money to make it an almost entirely different engine, it's got an entirely different head as a start
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chiksluvit
Sep 14 2008, 11:41 AM
oh Jag..

yah they gotta stay with the tradition mate... somethng old's gonna have to stay

seriously, it's managed by ford, a car manufacturer ran by accountants, so u gotta expect these things...

on the other hand, the chassis of the ae111 was from an old ae92 chassis anyway, just revised so it's got higher rigidity
and the 4age- its more than 10 years old
at least toyota's spent enough money to make it an almost entirely different engine, it's got an entirely different head as a start
Yeah i suppose if it works why change it. Jag are not ran by ford anymore and havent been for a while. They are owned by the mighty company of TATA :D wich is actually better than ford as they spend more of recources.

Hasnt the bottom of the 4A-GE bennt in just about every thing :D The AE86 and the AE92 was the same engine wasnt it? Im still learning toyotas as im nissan through and through. :ermm:
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pretty much... ae86 and ae92 are both16v but there are minor differences here and there

20v is a little bit more different

speaking of nissan.. rb26 was a 10 year old engine when the r34 came out..
but at least nissan admitted that the r32 r33 r34 gtrs are the "second generation" GTRs. first gen being the original kpgc10 and others...

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chiksluvit
Sep 14 2008, 11:41 AM
on the other hand, the chassis of the ae111 was from an old ae92 chassis anyway, just revised so it's got higher rigidity
Are you sure about that? I thought it was a new design. The Australian AE101R suspension was supposed to be a new design over the AE9X series, and the AE11X a development from that - superstrut aside.

If the AE111 chassis is a deveopment of the A111 but revised for higher rigidity then Toyota did a stupendous job as the AE9X series, even the performance orientated SX/GTI was an absolute shitheap in terms of handling. I know as I used to own one and my AE111 is light years better, and the contemporary reports of the AE92 were not very complimentary.
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ya... look at the chassis from underneath and you'll find out they're simillar... you'll see bits of improvements in suspension geometry here and there but the basic design is the same
the ae92 chassis evolved into ae101, then the ae101 evolved into ae111, comparing ae111 and ae101 is just like comparing r33 and r34, almost identical with plenty of interchangable suspension and chassis parts

the ae111 levin/trueno handles a lot better than the ae110 corolla too, despite the almost identical chassis. just like the ae92 levin trueno handles a lot better than the ae92 corolla gti csi...

i've compared my car with an ae101 corolla, the rear is awefully simillar from underneath, theres a lot more reinforcement on the rear shock tower area making the ae111 levin/trueno a lot more stiff at the rear.. i couldnt compare the front since mine's superstrut, but superstrut gets forged control arms, rose joint and ball joints, which is added advantage, though one may argue that it's a disadvantage in terms of maintenance

the zze corolla chassis on the other hand is completely new i think, with torsion beam rear suspension too which is going backwards imo, but open to corrections on this

back to topic: no we don't get side demisters, for anyone who claims to have them i'd be interested to see a picture of it
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Damm Toyotas are complicated :D so many different variants
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aka Hyper Rev 4...
also if you are buying suspensions, the AE92, AE101 and AE111 Mcpherson struts are the same, so therefore the chassis is similar...
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BZ-G
Sep 16 2008, 03:53 AM
also if you are buying suspensions, the AE92, AE101 and AE111 Mcpherson struts are the same, so therefore the chassis is similar...
So if i bought some dampers for a AE92 they would fit?

If so thats good news for me. Thanks :bow:
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if it's mcpherson strut then yes... since if you look at a lot of the aftermarket suspensions, the products usually show AE92, AE101, AE111 compatible for the suspensions....
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if you live in new zealand you can go to the warehouse in automotive section and buy anti fog i have it it works well but reapply it every week or after a couple of times of rain
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mine doesnt have them but i always got the side heaters pointing towards the window anyway so that gets rid of the steam pretty quick! besides i hate having hot air blowing in my face!
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