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Weight of 5 spd Gear Box
Topic Started: Oct 21 2008, 10:17 PM (432 Views)
johnnyli
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before buying the gear box, wanna to know how heavy(kg) of the 5spd gearbox?
I'm start source parts for manual conversion for my ride: :P :P :P

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PS: If someone who did the manual conversion, could you tell me exactly what parts do I need to completed the conversion?
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Thanks!
Edited by johnnyli, Oct 21 2008, 10:54 PM.
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BZ-G
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aka Hyper Rev 4...
well it'll be about 10-20kgs lighter than an auto gear box...

you'll need:
manual gear box
clutch set
clutch bearing
flywheel bolts
front, rear and LH engine mounts, with extra LH engine mount brace, better to get all 4
manual shifter and cable and cable clips
need to override the auto gearbox sensor (something to do with the wires near the gearbox housing)
firewall for the manual gearbox to the crank case
optional manual ecu, can still use auto ecu with manual box
don't need manual drive shaft since it's the same for auto
gear oil

i think that's it....
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johnnyli
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Oh! thanks BZ-G!!! that is very detailed :bow:
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jetshin
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Not going for 6speed like a real BZ-R? make sure you get an LSD box ;)
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johnnyli
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jetshin
Oct 22 2008, 04:41 PM
Not going for 6speed like a real BZ-R? make sure you get an LSD box ;)
as many people said 5spd is stronger than 6spd~~~ thats the why...
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BZ-G
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just to let you know, i got the manual gearbox with all the cables and gear shift lever as a package for $700nzd back then (plus bits and pieces) and labour costs $700nzd but the damn clutch kit from Toda cost $2000 nzd... and took about half a day to get it all sorted....
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AceSniper
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my guess is 38-45kg would weigh my spare but its in bits atm
last one I got transported they rated it at 50kg.... But if I can lay under my car and lift it on by my self its not 50kg
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AceSniper
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I dont think the left side drivershaft hanger bearing is offset auto vs mt so while same shafts can be used the hanger bracket must be changed.

On the auto box plug there is two wires from memory there black on ae111, just join them and solder them.

Two of the wires in that plug are for your reverse switch for backing lights, when you get the m/t try and get the plug for the reverse switch to make things easy.
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BZ-G
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Oct 23 2008, 10:12 AM
I dont think the left side drivershaft hanger bearing is offset auto vs mt so while same shafts can be used the hanger bracket must be changed.

On the auto box plug there is two wires from memory there black on ae111, just join them and solder them.

Two of the wires in that plug are for your reverse switch for backing lights, when you get the m/t try and get the plug for the reverse switch to make things easy.
yeah i've told chiksluvit on msn regarding the hanger bracket which is hell to get off...

regarding the wires, that's just above the clutch slave area, my friend just solder them, but you can get the switch like you said... also when you reverse the reverse tone works too.... which is funny when you have it on a manual box....
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chiksluvit
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thats some pretty detailed info there guys..

johnny- i've been trying to avoid this thread caus im too tired to go through another conversion again... lol
but the information's pretty detailed so yeah... lets do it when u've got the necessary parts ready..
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johnnyli
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chiksluvit
Oct 24 2008, 03:17 AM
thats some pretty detailed info there guys..

johnny- i've been trying to avoid this thread caus im too tired to go through another conversion again... lol
but the information's pretty detailed so yeah... lets do it when u've got the necessary parts ready..
haha!!
i think this conversion should be easier than the one we did last time~~~~

i remember u told me, why u always having probelms when u did sth on the car~~~~ LOL!

PS: u home? :D
Edited by johnnyli, Oct 24 2008, 04:48 AM.
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chiksluvit
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yeah i do eh.. nothing's ever straight forwad for me... its becoming story of my life now...

yeah i'm home now.. thank god - but i'd be heading to uni soon...
Edited by chiksluvit, Oct 24 2008, 04:56 AM.
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chiksluvit
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oh... you probably dont want me to get involved in your conversion this time just in case i jinx it..
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johnnyli
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Oct 24 2008, 04:55 AM
oh... you probably dont want me to get involved in your conversion this time just in case i jinx it..
no! u must get involved~~~~ without u, so boring~~ :D :D :D hahaha!
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lol
yeah it's boring if it's straight forward eh
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AceSniper
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you need to wire the rev switch or you wont have any backing lights....

The hanger bearing is easy, unto the two bolts and split it, remove the shaft then the bracket can easly be removed from the block.
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yeah it's straight forward...
problem is we had problems undoing the bolts on johnny's car since the bolt just got rusty and wouldnt move...

must be because of me... i think i really should stay away from johnny's car..
Edited by chiksluvit, Oct 24 2008, 11:39 AM.
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irishgerard
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hey guys doing an auto to manual conversion next week. would like just little info on did ya have any problems when all fitted? was it a pig of a job to do??

:cheers:
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DreadAngel
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I don't believe they've done the auto ---> manual conversion yet...
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BZ-G
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it's pretty much straight forward job, but it will take at least half a day or maybe a bit more... it would depend on the mechanic really...

just need to drill a hole on the firewall for the clutch, and then removing the auto trans and fitting the manual trans...

the slightly more difficult part is fitting the rear engine mount and the drive shaft back....
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AceSniper
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mount and shaft is easy if you remove the subframe how your meant to... seen people hitting the studs out just makes a mess.

You need a manual right side hander bearing mount I think?? as the auto one wont line up with the M/T
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BZ-G
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well we had the subframe fixed when we did my conversion... so it was a bit of a hassel... but it still worked...
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irishgerard
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Right boys the conversion is nearly complete... apart from a few little niggles :@ are the nuts for the gearbox to the engine the same auto and manual as the ones off the auto seem shorter and i didnt get given the ones off the manual box :wall:

also is the centre console different from the manual as the manual gear gator seems to be a different shape to it.... or am i being stupid?

Thanks
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BZ-G
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Yeah the nuts from the auto is shorter, so you need the manual nuts to fit it...

and yeah the centre console will be different when fitting the manual lever, but what i did was just remove the leather cover...
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irishgerard
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Dammit! i knew it was becomming to good to be true as everything was comming along so nicely! :@ right will have to search for manual nuts :-/
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nuts? dont you mean bolts....

the bolts from any 4age 4afe 7afe 4efe 4efte blah blah will work
or just goto a bolt shop and get some new ones

you have used manual bolts on your flywheel auto ones are shorter?
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irishgerard
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sorted her now, yeah bolts sorry my head is messed up at the mo with lack of sleep and too much work... she should be up and running this afternoon! :D
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