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| Trust Power Extreme II; and Kakimoto exhaust | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 12 2008, 07:34 AM (227 Views) | |
| ae111bz-r | Feb 12 2008, 07:34 AM Post #1 |
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Hey Guys, new to this... I have read alot the blogs here with some interesting info. I'm keen to buy a cat back exhaust for my levin to complement the Apex'i swirl manifold. I'm after something that's not too loud and quality. I placed an order for Trust MX but after 3months wait have been advised it has been discontinued now. The only other options that seem apealing to me are the Trust PE II and Fujitsubo Legalis R both rated at 95Db. I never had a chance to hear AE111 BT with aftermarket exhaust so not sure how loud these systems would be. Here in OZ the police is cracking hard on loud exhausts or anymods so dont want the hassle of being pulled over everytime you go for a drive. From what i see everyone here has mentioned HKS, Apexi, Buddy Club etc but no Trust. Has anyone had any experience with the PE 2 and Legalis R? I have read other forums where they had turbo cars(Skylines, silvias with the PE 2 and alot of guys where complementing how quiet these are compared to some other Jap brands. Any feedback and help would be highly appreciated. Cheers |
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| Wolftown | Feb 12 2008, 12:18 PM Post #2 |
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I have the Fujitsubo Legalis R system on my car, love the way it sounds. Also have a 5Zigen decat pipe that altered the noise slightly when fitted but all in all a sweet sounding exhaust. |
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| DreadAngel | Feb 13 2008, 06:14 AM Post #3 |
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Hey mate
Trust PE II is pretty good noise wise and so is the 5Zigen ProRacer A-Spec... Both are quite well behaved around city speeds and only growl when you give her a whoolp Both are quietier than say the Hi-Power and leagues away from the N1 inspired catbacks. |
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| ae111bz-r | Feb 16 2008, 01:45 AM Post #4 |
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Hey mate, Thanks for the feeback, after a bit of thinking im gonna go for the FGK system. a bit more expensive then others but atleast you have peace of mind for noise legality and gains. Like you said they seem to be pretty quiet compared to the rest of the Jap systems (mostly connons) available for AE111s. I was suprised with the size of the pipe on the stock system, pretty big considering we only have 1.6L. Just wanted to ask did you feel any sort of improvement power wise after you installed it ( i know its probably only very marginal 3.5 kw gain as per FGK claim) Cheer
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| BZ-G | Feb 16 2008, 12:02 PM Post #5 |
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as mention on your other post... go for legalis r... PE II had a power loss of about 2kw over factory exhaust when dyno it side by side... so wouldn't recommend it unless you like the some what deep sound.... simple terms... crap.... and in the bin.... |
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| TRUENOSAM | Feb 16 2008, 01:03 PM Post #6 |
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I have the apexi N1 fitted to my Trueno and it sounds awsome at idle and high revs, only seems noticeble when you want it to be. But the fujitsubo systems are excellent value for money and fabricated very well |
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| JohnnyBZG | Feb 17 2008, 02:31 PM Post #7 |
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http://img531.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mvi2014wz0.flv Only a stationary clip- will need to go to a very deserted area and give it sum.... :lol: |
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| JP89 | May 23 2008, 12:59 PM Post #8 |
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My exhaust system seems to b after getting a few dents and knocks over time so i tink its time to get a new one does anyone know anyting about these >>>>http://www.rhdjapan.com/jdm-low/TRUST-Power-Extreme-II-Muffler-AE101-AE111-Trueno-Levin-4A-GEU-29806 How loud and in general are they worth 450 euros |
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| dub-levin | May 23 2008, 02:52 PM Post #9 |
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look at the HKS exhaust thread i been asking about it myself. told they loose you power on your car. your durrent one? what make is it? let me know if your getting rid of it. might be interested. |
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| BZ-G | May 24 2008, 02:56 PM Post #10 |
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i had one before and i hated it... regret getting it... reason why i got it at the beginning was at that time it was the latest (about 9 years ago) and thought the name "power extreme" will help me get more 'power'.... but i was wrong.... it lost power and the only thing that i might consider good was the sound, kinda bit deep like a turbo sound... and nice at idle and bit noiser on high rev..... but when i took it off and fitted my stock exhaust on... the power is back... dyno it back to back and definitely stock gave more power... i was going to sell it off but left it at another friends shop and he through it in the rubbish when he moved location so that was the end of that... then when i got the buddy club racing spec 2 exhaust... that sounded totally different, like a honda screamer and that definitely gave bit more power at high rev but is bit too noisy like over 115db.... so it's 'loud'.... would recommend exhaust systems like HKS, Fujitsubo, Kakimoto racing or 5Zigen.... |
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| devo | May 24 2008, 04:05 PM Post #11 |
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oh ye lads member i said the exhaust i was getting was a hks it wasn it was a kakimoto racing system wasn familiar wit this exhaust must say but heard bzg recommendin it on this thread so taught id tel yaz wat its like plus seen a bzr wit the same system so maybe more popullar than i first taught this aint loud at all bzg i feel a bit more power top end for defo how would u rate this exhaust system tanks |
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| Shawn | May 24 2008, 06:43 PM Post #12 |
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HKS recommended...not to loud but loud enough :lol: |
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| BZ-G | May 26 2008, 03:10 AM Post #13 |
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IISTROKE will know since he's got the Kakimoto R exhaust on... |
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| IISTROKE | May 26 2008, 03:15 PM Post #14 |
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yeah the kakmoto R is sweet.. its not that loud but once the revs hit 3000 + it starts screaming.. dont know if i loose power or not as it came with the car when i bought it.. but yeah sound wise it shudnt give u that unwanted attention.. ill try post the vid of my car so uz can hear how loud it is
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| devo | May 26 2008, 04:03 PM Post #15 |
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hey mate tats the exact same kakimoto system i jus put on my levin wat do u think of her is urs very quiet
ye mate tat wat i said about them systems i hav mine on a week taught it was very low but happy wit it
bzg iv the fullmega kakimoto system the top one the diagram and i can tel ya they are jasma rated but tat one aint loud at all jus muffled sound iv the mani in everything decat must be the design of it |
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| DreadAngel | May 27 2008, 12:44 AM Post #16 |
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You've got the Kakimoto-R mate =) |
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| BZ-G | May 27 2008, 03:29 AM Post #17 |
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i know where to get them in New Zealand but not sure about where you can get them in your country though... sometimes shops don't show or display all exhausts so have to email or call them to ask if they can get it... usually most places do, so wouldn't mind emailing rhd and ask them if they can get it???
are you sure?!?! i don't want to mistaken you or anything but when you said your one is the exact same system as kyleseo which is the N1... then you reply to theshire about comparing the noise being low but his one is the R... so both are complete different designs... you have a kakimoto but probably a photo of yours can determine the exact one... i've heard N1 before on other cars and i know it's really loud... but i am somewhat confused when you say it's quiet... when dreadangel has the same agreement saying it's loud because it only has a resonator and near straight pipe towards a cannon tip... also please have a look inside the cannon tip... is the diameter reduced in the centre of the cannon or it's the same diameter as the tip??? that will also determine if it's loud or not... if it's the same diameter as the tip then it's loud but... if it's reduced then it's quiet.... |
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| kyleseo | May 27 2008, 06:12 AM Post #18 |
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The N1 isn't quite thats for sure, mine is JASMA stamped so can assume it is the later model. 93db without decat, thats going to be a close call for some tracks with the decat in! :( Still have the silencer in my boot i think. |
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| devo | May 27 2008, 08:38 PM Post #19 |
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its the exact same as the one your quotein on page one you hav pics of ur kakimoto tail pipe its the exact same size as tat look everything and my exhaust is tat firt one on the diagram drawing the one tats suppose to be loud.a mate i know because i dismantled it its the exact same 100% per cent kakimoto emblem on the tail pipe red badge funny tho the chap i bought it of said it was mad loud and yous are sayin it everythin is fitted 100% like got a good mechanic to do it is does ur exhaust hav jasma on it mine does does the jasma crowd not silence the exhausts to a legal limit im not to sure sorry about pics im on this site ages and stil dont know how plus iv no camera or phone connection
wel bzg u hav jus solved the prob mine has jasma all over it it must be tat latest one which has been silenced iv jasma on the tail pipe bzg and on the mani is there any way i can 100% tel tat mine is the one tat has been silenced significantly ie a code on the exhaust,serial number caz ill hav a look lads and ye bzg the diameter is significantly reduced wen i looked inside the exhaust tip
ye its reduced actually by about half the tip i dont know the bhp/torque of her now but im a bit worried after u mentioned i could be at a loss of power now but i couldn possibly could i after puttin in a kakimoto racing system from the mani to the tip of the exhaust decated in all (5zigen one in fact) hav to be on the gains ???????? |
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| BZ-G | May 28 2008, 03:22 AM Post #20 |
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ok... i found these on youtube... regarding Kakimoto Fullmega N1 although it is on a different car (turbo legacy)... i want devo to see the inside cannon pipe.... there are 4 clips and first 2 shows without silencer and the last 2 is with silencer... you can remove the silencer by a nut/bolt on the bottom of the end tip which you can see on the clips... without silencer 1 without silencer 2 with silencer 3 with silencer 4 these may sound different, i don't know since i don't have audio on my work pc... can only find out when i get home with my home pc... also you can see in the 1st clip that the inside pipe is pretty much same size as the tip so it's a straight flow.... |
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| devo | May 28 2008, 01:46 PM Post #21 |
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ye bzg i got a silencer wit the exhaust its jus fits into the tail pipe to reduce the sound told me it be handy for the nct tanks a lot for all the onfo ill listen to them exhausts now u posted up and ill let u know which one mine sounds and looks like cheers bzg its the first one an second one without silencer the exact same sound to which didnt seem very loud so it must be them latest made kakimoto exhaust wit only 93db them last to i hate the way they look only small little bore hole nothing like tat id say tat exhaust reduces ur power. i got a metal silencer tat simply jus plugs into the taip pipe if u no wat i mean. i no the cannon wasn replaced caz all the welds are perfect exact same lookin the whole way threw the system dont worry about tat caz i checked for any diy jobs on it ha but wat do u wreckon if now tat my exhaust is thoose first two u put up would i lose power my exhaust flow is pretty much straight threw il hav to dyno her tanks bzg really helpful in this topic
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| kyleseo | May 28 2008, 07:40 PM Post #22 |
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Mine is Jasma stamped so is the later model, its sure as hell not quite though. Granted there is a decat in there now but even before that was in it was loud. It used to set off the occasional alarm before the decat. Not sure on the inner to be honest, will have to check, away on work until friday. It is smaller than the tip though. This kind of depends on what people deem to be loud, what one may think is loud could be seen as quite-ish to another. Have any more mid silencers been added? Nothing blocking the pipework any where. Failing that it could be something to do with the running of the engine itself? |
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| devo | May 28 2008, 09:47 PM Post #23 |
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no my engines running perfectly delivern the power wen i want it im jus going to take it tat mine is the one which has been jasma approved to 93db mate and ill get a dyno in the near future see did it improve on 156bhp/133atw/129 foot pounds of torque and i got these figures wit jus a 5zigen decat so hopin wit this kakimoto system there is improvement if not its gettin sold sold sold tanks a lot kyleseo and bzg for all the help |
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| BZ-G | May 29 2008, 03:41 AM Post #24 |
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yeah... well... i guess at the end of the day it comes down to your definition of "loud" really... maybe you just got a huge ear wax in your ear.... hahaha... just kidding...
anyway hope when you do, do a dyno, it will gain some power and torque... fingers crossed.... and getting back to the actual topic (sorry for going sooo off track).... DON'T BUY A TRUST POWER EXTREME II EXHAUST... from experience it looses power and don't waste time in getting something cheap and having power loss especially when our AE111 cars are already struggling to reach the 'factory claimed' 165bhp.... spend money wisely.... this is my personal opinion but if by any chance anyone does buy PE2, then don't complain about it when I did warn you guys about it.... |
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| DreadAngel | May 30 2008, 06:26 AM Post #25 |
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Han Lue
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Nengun doesn't list all cars, always inquire in, just be REALLY patient with them... |
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maybe you just got a huge ear wax in your ear.... hahaha... just kidding...

2:20 PM Jul 11