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Race spec bike filters on ITB; will these fit?
Topic Started: Aug 16 2009, 07:06 PM (490 Views)
JDM
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48mm fitment,

Total length 44mm

Cone filter length 27mm

74mm wide at widest point
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AceSniper
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you loose low end power running with out the airbox,
you can use sock filters made for carbs and run trumpets
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jdm
Aug 17 2009, 09:18 PM
where does the sensor go though once trumpets or bike filters have been installed?
Wich sensor?
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JohnnyBZG
Aug 17 2009, 10:29 PM
I'm guessing you're on about the air temp sensor in the rubber pipe on the original set up??
Well it just has to hang loose if you have trumpets, unless you have some ducting up to where the airbox used to be to feed the trumpets, you can install it there..
yeah mate thats the one.

so the best thing to do so to mount the sensor close to the trumpets?

anyone confirm where the exact spot would be? maybe a picture or something.

thanks. Its just im ordering a set of trumpets a week tomorrow and just wanna get it all in my head what needs to be done etc.

:D

any other tips when installing the trumpets? (please dont give me a link to the pinned thread, I've already read it). doesnt really paint a full picture.

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Are you running them open...or keeping them in the airbox plenum?
If in the plenum, the one closest to the drivers side wing, will need to be trimmed to fit inside the box.. If running them open, best to get socks/mesh or an ITG filter to cover them...and if you have big hands, expect to lose some knuckle skin when taking the plenum off...
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JDM
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gonna use them without the plenum/airbox mate.

and lol @ your knuckle skin comment.

I had a fiddle yesterday with the bolts just to prepare myself and like you say, there isnt alot of room.

is it just the 5 bolts? three on top, 1 either side?

i hope so as i couldnt see anymore.
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I can't recall exactly how many, but sounds right, it's kind of hinged/slotted to fit in the bottom
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JohnnyBZG
Aug 17 2009, 06:19 PM
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Aug 17 2009, 12:55 AM
tbh i have no idea... but personally iv been looking at these

Filters

not sure what it means by "This kit only fitted AE111 ITB swap to AE86." but i imagine they will simply "bolt on".
Engine is fitted longitudinally in AE86, but transverse in AE111. Filter space very limited by bulkhead in AE111, but not so in AE86

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surely those filters would take up less space than the standard plenum thingy though?
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i think so too...
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one of the things i read on wheels jamaica was from a guy who seems to have conducted loooads of research into it (named 4E-FTE so he gets the credit) is that having open trumpets didnt have any detrimental effect at all... he claimed power had increased across the entire band, apart from a small flatspot below 2000rpm.

Quote "Oh yeah, I drove the car on saturday. Major difference. Car revvs like a bike, the noise is awesome. Quite a drivig experience. Just needs some fine tuning on the dyno and it'll be pretty."

Another quote "Yes, the orginal figures are in the 'saga continues' thread. The original figures were 132.9 with 103lb/ft. We only added the horns, there were no other modifications to the car. This is a gain of 8.6whp - 6lb/ft over his standard ECU and a massive 12.9whp - 12.7lb/ft.

And to confirm again, this is untuned with only three modifications; 4-2-1 FGK header, 5Zigen Fireball headers, and the newly installed horns."

I believe the ecu mentioned was simply a standard ecu from an auto BZ.

He then went onto mention that a "japanese trick" of raising the bonnet at the back had been used in the belief that it increases the speed of the air rushing over the bonnet causing suction under the bonnet... or something like that.

I hope i am allowed to quote this information here.. but to make sure its clear, all of this info was produced by "4E-FTE" and "seven7" and was originally posted on "WheelsJamaica" - so thankyou guys, you are legends.

the link can be found here - The Link
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that is sone interesting information

trumpets and raised bonnet here i come =)
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some stage will be doing a few dyno runs with trumpet setups and arc chamber an so-on
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JohnnyBZG
Aug 17 2009, 06:19 PM

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Is that your car? Was featured in a car mag over here (owner was in england iirc and he had it imported from Japan). Such a sweet car! :wub:


The first time you pull the airbox of is a PITA but once you've done it once its a piece of cake next time.
Who ever said theres five bolts is right. You may need to use a screw driver to lever the box open as after 10years of not being touched its a bit stuck. Lever it from the top centre.
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these stacks seem quite good? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Red-Velocity-Stack-20V-4AG-ITB-AE86-Air-Horn-Funnel_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em63Q2el1177QQhashZitem588284b00aQQitemZ380146855946QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

think it comes to about £130 delivered which is £35 cheaper than the tweakit ones which dont seem as good quality?
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they do look very nice.

are you gona run them open or stick some socks on there as acesniper suggested?


ooo and i found these aswell

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