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VTC / VVT Controller; Q&A's
Topic Started: Sep 11 2008, 07:20 PM (206 Views)
sabajin
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sabajin
hi guys, a friend of mine is selling to me the OER vtc, as far as am concerned this device helps to set at what rpm range someone wants to the vvt be desactivated, please correct me if am wrong, also my buddie told me something about to control the throtle.

Please if anyone knows more about this vtc, share your data with me :$
Does it worth buying it?, ooh i also read that if your running trumpets then the vtc is a nice support for them.

thanks in advanced....
Edited by sabajin, Sep 12 2008, 01:42 AM.
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TRUENOSAM
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From what i have heard from VTEC owners using them to lower the change over it causes more trouble than they are worth so i would imanagine that they would do the same to a vvti enabled engine.

You are trying to tell the ECU to retard the timing to compensate the feulling. (if that makes sense)
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devo
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wats the point in this device lad and vvt works over the whole rpm range,and vtec this be good for ie vtec controller.be useless in my opinion and a waste of money for the ae111's,plus as sam said spot on.
Edited by devo, Sep 13 2008, 12:25 AM.
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DreadAngel
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Don't play with it... No point, either keep it as is or kill it... Same with VTEC...
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chiksluvit
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i killed it :P


anyway, it'll work alright but i've seen a few user reviews that reports OER VTC to be problematic- ie it breaks

and ya, theres no point
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AceSniper
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I dont see any point as you want it turned on dow low/mid for power then off top end for power... aka std ecu takes care of it fine.

If you run mild cams with vvt you might want to switch it off early or somthing.
if ya have big cams kill it... you wont notice... I dont miss it... just more weight in the rotating assembly
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sabajin
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thanks mates, always helpful.
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devo
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guys im asking this question for my mate,who has a 98bzr,he has a vvt controller really good piece of kit,he can set the vvt for wat ever rpm like to kick in,he has it at 4000rpm at the moment and u really do feel it at 4000rpm like the vtec kick,a green light turns on at 4000rpm to tel ya vvt is enabled,but wat he and i want to no is wat use is it??? also when the vvt is disabled up to 4rpm,is it losing power or wat,it was in the car when he bought it about 2years ago.thank you ;)
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AceSniper
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you want it on as soon as you put your foot down and turn it off again at 6200
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devo
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,he has it tat it kicks in at 4000rpm,i told him tat ur losin power i think to the buld up to 4000rpm,he jus wanted to know the purpose of it.

ye so best tel my mate that its useless really,dont no why previous owner put it in.

sabajin
Sep 24 2008, 05:48 PM
i just bought it(used) and imho is not a waste of money at all, first of all vvt it does kick, not like vtec or neo vvl but it kicks at 5000 rpm. With this device you can set it to kick at 2500 at least, also there is an accel function which can be used to set the way the owner steps the accelerator, i mean you can set the vtc in order to engage vvt while you step the half of the gas, on top of that, it comes with a rpm delimiter, which can be set to cut at 6500 up to 8600.

So to make it shorter, i like to feel the bt power from 3000rpm all the way to the red line, of course there is the consumption problem, but it has a really simple solution, whenever you want to use the vtc you plug it and whenever you want the original vvt system, just unplugged the vtc and plug the vvt ;)

tats a nice bit of info there,so they are useful,jus about getting the right settings ye.
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kyleseo
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You dont want the vvt to be engaged above 6.5k, you'll only loose power.
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sabajin
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Sep 24 2008, 08:43 PM
sabajin
Sep 24 2008, 05:48 PM
it comes with a rpm delimiter, which can be set to cut at 6500 up to 8600.
oh dear - i know the kind - they are a good tool for the vvt adjusting - but the redline delimiter can be BAD - a mate of mien had a simler one that let him to to 9400rpm

needlesss to say i saw the poor 111 on a salvage trailer a week later with a rod through the block :'(

the delimiters are great - but ONLY if you have done work to the engine so that can ensure it will survive the heightend Redline :o
your damn right about that mate, i will just leave the fuel cut at 8250 (standard)

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meg_omen
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Sep 24 2008, 01:29 AM
I believe vvt controller are a waste of money on blacktops since they engage at any rpms..
I agreed...
If you put in a VVT light, which will tell you when the vvt engage... you could see that for BT, vvt could engage as low a 1500rpm...
i believe ST and BT is the same, coz it's depends on TPS, RPM, load etc.
refer link for vvt light... http://4age20v.blogsome.com/2007/08/03/vvt-light-ae111-blacktop/
Edited by meg_omen, Sep 25 2008, 03:23 AM.
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AceSniper
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no point in lifting the limiter on std engine/ecu... engine wont be making power, and the ecu wont be mapped for it....
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