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Mine's ECU
Topic Started: Jul 15 2008, 01:31 PM (513 Views)
Levin BZR
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I just bought a used Mine's Ecu for my AE111!! :bow: Is anybody using one?? I know that is a standard ecu chipped by mine's. Can anybody give me more details about this ecu (I read the article in their homepage.I want some more info..)?
The previous owner has the same mods as mine. Fujitsubo headers+muffler,trumpets,plugs..

Thanks! :wave:
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BZ-G
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aka Hyper Rev 4...
when you got your engine done by Trial, i will assume that they would of include a ecu which is programmed for your engine?
and if so i would leave it as it is, since fitting the Mine's ecu will offset all the settings, which could make it worse...
also the Mine's ecu needs to be rested by Mine's in Japan and they may need a list of all mods that could affect the settings, which means it might not work on your car...
as dreadangel said the ecu is only a tuned ROM not programmable...
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Levin BZR
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DreadAngel
Jul 15 2008, 02:01 PM
Contact Mine's and ask them about it, I doubt anyone can give you 100% correct information. The mapping will also be useless to you unless not only the mods are the same but the conditions are the same ie Fuel...

From what I know, its a Tuned ROM and not programmable...
Here in Cyprus, we have the same fuel as in Japan (98 octane and 100 octane),so the fuel it is not a problem.I'm using 100 oct fuel for my car.The weather conditions,are the same,too!! So, I think it will work just fine.Also,my car have the same mods with the car which was fitted in!!
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kyleseo
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The plug and play ecu's dont cater so much for the mods you've made any way. It will be similar to the TOMS TECS with altered fuel tables, speed cut, rev cut etc.

Being a factory ecu with the just Mines flash adjustments it will still have a certain degree of learning capability. Infact, being out of the car it should have reset anyway.
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Levin BZR
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BZ-G
Jul 16 2008, 04:47 AM
apologies levin bzr, i got confused with another member...
it will work on your car but it wouldn't maximise all the parts potential though since the ecu's learning ability is bit limited... but overall it will be better than a factory ecu....
:bow: :cheers: Cheers mate!! It will better than a factory ecu for sure!! I just want 5whp-10whp.Not more
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BZ-G
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yeah i think you'll get around 5whp to 10whp...
also you'll get the extra speed cut and also able to rev higher too... ;)
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Ae111blast
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How much did the thing set you back?
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devo
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DreadAngel
Jul 16 2008, 02:33 PM
devo
Jul 15 2008, 08:55 PM
lads dont want to sound daft, but could someone explain wat an ecu does i know its basically the brain of the car,but wat is its functions also wat wil an upgraded ecu do tanks
ECU is the brain of the computer, using various sensors to determine the parameters to run the car in. There are mappings set from factory (usually for economy more than power) that determine the amount of air and fuel etc etc...

Wikipedia is your friend there lol

Upgraded ECU, you've got Chipped ECU's (basically a chip replaces the factory chip allows for limited tuning and limited learning capabilities), Tuned ROMs (similar to chipped ECU usually comes with more advanced mappings and better learning abilities), Piggyback ECU (As the name suggests it intercepts the factory ECU's signals and alters them? Rides the Factory ECU) and Standalone ECU completely replaces the Standard ECU meaning it controls almost everything...

cheers dread angel, so in time if i got an upgraded ecu got it properly mapped,id obviously hav to upgrade the internals cams,stuff like tat, caz i know some ecu's can let u rev higher and tat.do these give good gains???
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DreadAngel
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Hehehe, lets say you had a dead standard car and you were to put an aftermarket ECU into it, you could potentially gain power and torque as normally factory ECUs are conservative at best.

Now with most of the AE111s on our forum, running I/H/E, you stand to gain a lil more but the only changes in parameters is that its free flow rather than restrictive factory parts, the volume actually going in or going out hasn't really changed if you get what I'm saying. There is only so much you can gain from ECU tuning with such limited modifications.

To get power, you need to get more air and fuel into the engine. Thats why Force Induced cars can gain so much from simple Intake and Exhaust modifications then onto the dyno for tuning...
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devo
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totally get ya now finally i understand the ecu haha cheers
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bigshark
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Levin BZR, you should talk to SIU16, im sure he has a mines ecu on his car, maybe he could tell you a bit more about it!

there was one on ebay a few months, starting bid at £10 or somthing silly like that and postage and packeing at £450!!

also, it said it was for the ae101 so it probably wont have worked on the ae111!

so, has standard ECU any self-learining capabilites at all?
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DreadAngel
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Stock ECU has nothing much of self learning, it's mapping is its limitations.
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bigshark
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what good self learning ecu is there for the ae111?
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BZ-G
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depends on how deep your pocket is (money wise)...
i know autronic ecu's do have self learning units but it will depend on model too...
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Levin BZR
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I plugged in my Mine's ECU!! The result??? AAAAMMAAAAZZZZIIIINGGG!!!! :bow: :bow:

Guys,I'm really happy. It might be a standard ecu with some chips but what I get from this part,is unbelievable!!
My car runs smoother, faster than before from 3000rpm to 85000rpm(before was 8200rpm)!!!!
And now,there is no speed cut!! With 4th gear(six speed gearbox) I was running with 185km/h!!!

Just perfect! :$ :$
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1i1
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Digging up an old thread sorry.

A friend of mine is having a look to see about sourcing either a mines or toms ecu for me.

Two questions though:
1. Have you had the a/f ratio checked?
2. Did it alter the timing at all?

Thanks,
Mark
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AceSniper
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def changes timing and fuel, Would have liked to Log the Sard I had but sadly the link was wired in before I I had cheap/easy dyno access.

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1i1
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hmm don't fancy my car blowing up. IF i can find a mines or toms ecu that isn't stupidly priced i'll get it onto a local dyno to check afr and timing etc (and do a power run :D )
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each mines is diffrent, and to get them altered pricey!!!
had one on my old skyline and did research. unlike a say greddy and power fc were you buy the unit, it can be used again and again.
the mines a an eprom/ rom chip replaced on teh stock ecu. so you can send it back to mines uk or jap, but the chrage the full whack like £900 cos the licences is per person not per car i kid you not. its mad.
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AceSniper
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It wont blow your engine, just recommend you dont keep pushing it over 8k on stock rods to be sure.

The Sard I had was a 9k limit ae101, but had it plugged into a stock blacktop for a year or two pushing 9k didnt fail... but wouldn't recommend it on your everyday car incase.
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Z33kdud3
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i heard a rumor saying that Mines has a chip of some kind that can chipped toyota ecu? is this true? and one is designd for blacktop?

joyce
Nov 6 2009, 10:03 PM
U sure its not just a Mines ECU for the blacktop...they are fairly common
i heard it's a just cost about 200us, someone told me they saw it but i cant get any info for that online, i was just checking to see if anyone else heard about it.
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AceSniper
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mines/sad/hks/toms/trd ecu's for ae111 are all "chips" they run off a sub board that contains a rom/ram/cpu inside std ecu this is all needed to chip a toyota ecu... hence why hardly any/no company's outside of japan "chip" toyota ecu's
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Bryan BZ-R
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Cud mines chip my ecu?
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Yeah, think you can send ECU's to them. It's mega expensive and pointless really. How can it be mapped for your specific car if it's in another country and uses different fuel, as a different atmosphere, etc.
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Bryan BZ-R
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Ahri cud a remapping place have a go at doingone?
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Levin BZR
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Escy
Jun 6 2010, 11:01 AM
Yeah, think you can send ECU's to them. It's mega expensive and pointless really. How can it be mapped for your specific car if it's in another country and uses different fuel, as a different atmosphere, etc.
I can't say that it's pointless mate. It works perfect on my car and I gained a lot of whp of it!! You can say to them the exact fuel will use,the exact temperature range of your country, your modifications etc..
The problem is that will cost A LOT.. It's better to buy a used one from japan auction,with similar modifications to your car!
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Bryan BZ-R
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Ah but are they rare tho an hw much would it cost to buy?
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I bet you any money if you went for stand alone management and had it properly mapped you'd have better gains. For the cost of a mines ECU, you can afford to go stand alone.
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Bryan BZ-R
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Price that in ireland it was 1900 euro for motec ecu fitting an map :O
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I'm considering going for this. http://www.mtechautomotive.co.uk/engine-management/v4-ecu/

Will work with all the standard engine sensors so no messing about fitting toothed wheels to the crank pulley etc. All you need to do is the wiring.


They have an offer at the moment, £495 + VAT and they will map it on the rolling road for free. (takes about 4 hours they told me).

http://passionford.com/forum/general-discussion/354891-m-tech-v4-group-buy-free-mapping-3-left.html

I really want to get one, just come at the wrong time for me, not got the cash available to spend
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Levin BZR
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Escy
Jun 6 2010, 01:12 PM
I bet you any money if you went for stand alone management and had it properly mapped you'd have better gains. For the cost of a mines ECU, you can afford to go stand alone.
Yes,I agree with you! But I have bought mine from japan auction and it cost me a lot cheaper! Also I was very lucky, as my modification was exactly the same as the seller's car! :rotfl:

A stand alone ECU will always be better than a chipped ECU buddy.
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I was looking at a few on Yahoo Japan (different makes, not just Mines). I was finding they were working out close to £500 with shipping.
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Escy
Jun 6 2010, 09:43 PM
I was looking at a few on Yahoo Japan (different makes, not just Mines). I was finding they were working out close to £500 with shipping.
I don't remember how much it cost me.. But 500 isn't too bad,as you will only plug it on.. You do not need someone to fit it and program it
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