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| Headers, which one?; HKS, 5Zigen, Fujitsubo? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 6 2008, 08:15 PM (704 Views) | |
| JP89 | Mar 6 2008, 08:15 PM Post #1 |
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I put this up as i cant decide whick manifold i want HKS Type 2 Racing Header (sexy!!!) ![]() R 5Zigen Manifold ![]() HELP!!!!! :wacko: |
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| bigshark | Mar 6 2008, 08:19 PM Post #2 |
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which one adds the more power?? i would go for that one!! :lol: |
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| Ae111blast | Mar 6 2008, 08:27 PM Post #3 |
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I like the look of the HKS one! |
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| Wolftown | Mar 6 2008, 08:29 PM Post #4 |
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How much are each of them? Any difference? |
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| JP89 | Mar 6 2008, 08:39 PM Post #5 |
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The 5zigen is like 650 and the HKS 700 - but i like the luk of the HKS one like, it luks unreal and from luking at different sites it seems to giv healthy power gains
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| Wolftown | Mar 6 2008, 08:45 PM Post #6 |
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Hmm..i like the look of the HKS aswell. Pricey enough though aren't they? Want to get the standard mani out of mine anyway. |
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| TRUENOSAM | Mar 6 2008, 10:34 PM Post #7 |
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HKS all the way
:wub: That extra 50 euros will be worth it Definatley
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| BZ-G | Mar 7 2008, 03:18 AM Post #8 |
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aka Hyper Rev 4...
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i like the HKS one since it has some extra pipes looping around to give extra torque.... |
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| kyleseo | Mar 7 2008, 07:42 AM Post #9 |
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is the HKS headrer a 4 -1 design (looks like from the picture)? Will improve power at the top end of the rev range. The 5Zigen is a 4-2-1, more torque, more low down power but not the same effects top end. In theory anyway. |
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| DreadAngel | Mar 7 2008, 11:04 AM Post #10 |
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5Zigen and Fujitsubo are Exhaust specialist so go figure
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| kyleseo | Mar 7 2008, 07:10 PM Post #11 |
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a 4 - 1 would more than likely suit the 4a better, but only if your tracking it alot. in terms of every day driving the 4-2-1 would be better. |
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| smithy | Mar 8 2008, 04:16 AM Post #12 |
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Either Fujitsubo or 5zigen, as said above they're both exhaust specialists so more research has prob been put into them! Id prob go Fujitsubo coz of the price difference! ![]() Right, sorry for hijacking the thread but was searching around the net for parts and im after coming across a company that makes custom manifolds for the ae111 .......... Now the price sounds good- $299 but would you trust an unknown company to make one?! I should also add that its a 4-1 design and they advertise on ebay which is kind of a warning sign!!! Yer Thoughts?????????
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| markg-h2o | Mar 8 2008, 10:10 AM Post #13 |
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fujisubo would b the 1 id get any way as 4 the one ur talking about smithy id b sceptical , does sound vry cheap $300 is around €200 , i wouldnt say they would be tested or proven to improve anything at that sort of price,
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| ae111 | Mar 8 2008, 10:40 AM Post #14 |
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fujitsubo definately! |
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| Levin BZR | Mar 8 2008, 02:15 PM Post #15 |
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Fujitsubo mate! You will not regret it!
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| nickae111 | Mar 9 2008, 05:50 PM Post #16 |
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Has any one actually had any experience with the hks racing header or are you just dissing it because its so expensive!!?? |
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| JP89 | Mar 10 2008, 09:09 PM Post #17 |
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Fujitsubu it is
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| JohnnyBZG | Mar 11 2008, 06:00 PM Post #18 |
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Can't vouch for HKS or Fujitsubo...as I have only ever had the stock previously and now the 5Zigen...., but the 5Zigen certainly gives good pull throughout the whole rev band... |
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| JohnnyBZG | Jul 24 2009, 07:22 PM Post #19 |
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Don't know what the actual gains are, as I didn't get any before after dyno reading, but it is better than the stock header...only thing is it gets hotter due to being stainless, so probably better getting good quality wrap to keep the temp under control.. |
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| LevinTrueno | Jul 27 2009, 03:25 PM Post #20 |
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thats Fujitsubo
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| The Parrot | Apr 10 2010, 10:45 PM Post #21 |
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well ill let you all know about my hks racing once i get my link pip made up. if any have actual read the jamica wheels testing off manifolds they say that the levins love the 4-1 and that there is very little diffrence between torque. and if you notice th link bars on the hks from what i know they are to increase the scavange effect causing it to make more torque. and for the mad money it is i would say theres anlot of development gone into it. |
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| Bryan BZ-R | Aug 29 2010, 03:21 PM Post #22 |
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So what the verdict then im think the Fujitsubo Super EX is the best |
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| The Parrot | Aug 29 2010, 10:00 PM Post #23 |
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the fujitsubo is the middle of teh road. the out and out best as i have said before is the cuso p ball but cant be got anymore let alone found lol. |
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| Bryan BZ-R | Aug 30 2010, 04:52 PM Post #24 |
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Ah yea i no thats the best designed one ahri but i ment the best you can buy new |
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| The Parrot | Aug 30 2010, 10:10 PM Post #25 |
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i would be saying the hks 4-1 racing. the other to the hks 4-2-1 and fgk 4-2-1 would be either or really. |
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| PeterAE111 | Aug 30 2010, 11:35 PM Post #26 |
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How do you find the difference since getting the 4-1 in your car? On a separate note I wonder why the guys fabricating the custom manifold didn't just try to make it to the Cusco spec or I guess getting an Original to copy was the barrier
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| Bryan BZ-R | Aug 31 2010, 05:05 PM Post #27 |
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That would of being a good idea ahri is 4-1 the best then would the apexi one be good parrot if fixed right? |
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| The Parrot | Aug 31 2010, 09:49 PM Post #28 |
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well the apexi is a 4 into 1 yes but is what they call a spirl 4 into 1 it is a very good manifold if fixed right. yup on the cusco yes getting the original and i would say its very awkuard to copy as its not a normal design.. it has a ball at the bottom of the 4 into 1 section i would say not fun to manifacture |
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| Bryan BZ-R | Aug 31 2010, 09:53 PM Post #29 |
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Yea i found a guy that makes an repairs exhausts he used to work in f1 racing suppose to be very good |
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| The Parrot | Aug 31 2010, 10:38 PM Post #30 |
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if he can fix it properly it will be a nice system. |
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| Bryan BZ-R | Aug 31 2010, 10:41 PM Post #31 |
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Yea i hope so anyway |
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| meg_omen | Sep 20 2010, 09:25 AM Post #32 |
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4-1 CUSCO PS Powerball header... i'll post up pics and dyno later in my built log...
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| The Parrot | Sep 20 2010, 04:08 PM Post #33 |
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you scum lol |
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| DreadAngel | Sep 20 2010, 04:13 PM Post #34 |
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Meg... One you can buy off the shelf... You're disqualified =P |
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| meg_omen | Sep 24 2010, 08:25 AM Post #35 |
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ok, my bad...
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| The Parrot | Sep 24 2010, 12:46 PM Post #36 |
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lol. so far im chuffed with the hks racing. little bit of adjustments left to be made. but. 2500k and below its down on a bit of tourque but after that it rips. the car is still very drivable. |
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| bmchi | Oct 14 2010, 03:24 AM Post #37 |
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it seems in the 4-2-1 range its either fujitsubo ex header or HKS super header. Now iv heard these are identical but there are some differences in design? according to RHDJapan the fujitsubo one makes a nice bump in HP as well as a small bump in dB anyone dynoed a HKS before and after to compare? and apparently its quieter than stock. why is this? something to do with the flex pipe? there must be some sort of difference between the two performance wise Edited by bmchi, Oct 14 2010, 03:25 AM.
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| Kaiser | Oct 14 2010, 11:19 AM Post #38 |
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I've heard if you remove the baffles from the stock manifold then it's the same as an aftermarket 4-2-1, anyone done this? |
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| The Parrot | Oct 14 2010, 11:50 AM Post #39 |
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dosnt make much diffrence its to do with sound. when you actual look at the full 2 into 1 section on a standard manifold thats were the main restriction is. bmchi theres very little between them. jamica wheels has done the dyno runs. there nothing between them really. as its all down to formulas for flow rates. they use to say the fgk was the better one due to it being cheaper but i think both are pretty much the same now. |
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| bmchi | Oct 15 2010, 02:21 PM Post #40 |
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thats good because i just got the hks super header for cheap 660 AUD shipped to my door
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