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| Tweet Topic Started: May 17 2008, 02:34 AM (1,457 Views) | |
| SladeJack | May 28 2008, 12:26 AM Post #31 |
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Of course there will be stupidity, TR, but not on an epic scale, hopefully. No point to discussing this? Au contraire. We were founded to discuss upcoming AH novels, this is one we all want to read, we may as well go at it. |
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| TR1 | May 28 2008, 08:55 PM Post #32 |
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I don't think alchemist is suggesting that we drop the thread, but rather the particular train of thought he quotes in its entirety. |
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| SladeJack | May 29 2008, 12:43 AM Post #33 |
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But that's the direction the conversation has taken. |
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| TR1 | May 29 2008, 12:49 PM Post #34 |
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Let's take it in a different direction, then. Anyone think Dewey will beat Truman. Knowing HT, I rather think he will. |
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| SladeJack | May 29 2008, 12:54 PM Post #35 |
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That brings up an interesting point, you know that interview you found? The one about the release date moving so it will be out before the election ? Any insight into whether HT's going for the heavy-handed here? If so that would likely play into the Dewey-Truman issue. |
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| TR1 | May 29 2008, 05:34 PM Post #36 |
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He said something about getting "political" in his old age. Getting the book out before the election was DelRey's idea. And they came up with that based purely on his pitch, not on anything he'd written at that point. Or at least, that's what HT said in the interview. |
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| SladeJack | May 30 2008, 02:46 AM Post #37 |
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Perhaps we'll finally get some insight into his relatively enigmatic politics now that he's getting old. I've always suspected that he's a foreign policy hawk and on the center-left domestically. |
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| eamonhart | May 31 2008, 01:52 PM Post #38 |
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I've always thought he was pretty far left on domestic issues. |
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| SladeJack | May 31 2008, 07:01 PM Post #39 |
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Somewhat. I wish he hadn't simplistically reducedall the interwar TL-191 elections to "Democratsgood foreign policy, Socialists good domestic policy" and the only debates characters had on the issue were debates over whichwas more important. |
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| Makkabee | May 31 2008, 10:58 PM Post #40 |
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Well, he did have Hoover suck on both foreign and domestic policy. |
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| SladeJack | Jun 1 2008, 01:07 AM Post #41 |
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True, but each election season, except 1924 and 1936, which were scarcely competitive, it was the same issue. 1932 was pretty non-competitive too. Then you had the Japanese raid on LA as the final nail in Blackford's coffin, as if foreign policy were his fallback, as if he could get pounded on domestic policy and then say "Nothing's gone horribly wrong as a result of my foreign policy--oh, wait--" Now that I think of it, HT just pretty much had the Depression go away on its own, didn't he? Nothing to provide enough economic stimulus to beat it, not from any direction at all; it just sort of blew away when it became inconvenient to the plot. By the OTL late 30s it wasn't much of an issue anymore, and parallelism must be preserved, so-- |
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| eamonhart | Jun 1 2008, 01:20 AM Post #42 |
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I assumed that the immense build up during the war helped to eradicate what was left of the depression? |
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| SladeJack | Jun 1 2008, 03:49 AM Post #43 |
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But it had stopped having much of an effect on anything before then. Maybe the Confederate version was chased off by the military buildup, the consequential investment of the government into front operations like the Confederate Fruit Company, and of course the Snake's public works projects like the damn dams. But in the US, you had some attempts to provide socialistic stimulus under Blackford that was demonstrably not working, a laissez faire policy under Hoover that was also not working, and then one day, suddenly, after who knows what coming from Smith--Yay, the Depression's over! Unrealistic. Now if he'd had the Confederate economy recover while the US's stayed weak, that would be entertaining. Add quite a few pounds to the weight which Richmond is throwing around at that point, pounds for which the US has no answer. |
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| TR1 | Jun 2 2008, 06:29 PM Post #44 |
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The US was getting it's military machine going through the 1930s. Even while taking a light touch with the CS, Blackford restarted military production while fighting Japan, Hoover kept it going to keep Houston in line, and Smith was at least canny enough to know what he was dealing with in Featherston to continue along still. That's probably not enough to resolve the depression as cleanly as HT did it, but it's certainly a logical factor. Back to MWTH-Nuremburg trials? Yes, no, maybe? |
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| SladeJack | Jun 3 2008, 12:43 AM Post #45 |
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If we capture them, but with the Werewolves abound who knows. The trials would probably be held somewhere far away to avoid Werewolf retaliation against witnesses and such. Unless HT wants to keep it in Germany so he can draw twee parallelism with the Cirque du Saddam nonsense. |
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