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| SladeJack | Jun 24 2008, 03:34 AM Post #31 |
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Was there any one moment for you, though? |
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| Custer | Jun 24 2008, 04:12 PM Post #32 |
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Featherston's inauguration scene, I guess. |
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| SladeJack | Jun 24 2008, 05:46 PM Post #33 |
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As a bad one? I found that pretty exciting: "Here we go, we're heading for the real action now!" By the way I was just in a Barnes & Noble for the first time in a year and I saw that dreadful oversized "paperback" of IatD. They had a MWIH teaser in the back. Didn't read it. |
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| TR1 | Jun 24 2008, 06:31 PM Post #34 |
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Perhaps I will pop over to B&N and take a gander. |
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| Custer | Jun 24 2008, 06:33 PM Post #35 |
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That's why I picked it. I didn't know I was supposed to pick a "bad" moment, just a moment. |
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| MapleLeafs4Ever | Jun 24 2008, 09:07 PM Post #36 |
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I enjoyed all eleven books although I thought the American Empire trilogy dragged a bit. That's probably because it was peacetime rather than during war. I did think the stalemated war in WiH became a little repetitive what with the twenty-thirteenth Battle of the Roanoke but it still was a good book. Also, unlike some, I didn't mind the concentration of POVs in Morrell's war in The Grapple. |
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| alchemist | Jun 24 2008, 10:29 PM Post #37 |
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I thought it basically died with the Grapple, taking OTl is one thing but it was just that he wasn't even bothering to vary the POV really just made it dull. I didn't even bother to grab IatD. |
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| Custer | Jun 24 2008, 10:56 PM Post #38 |
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IMHO In at the Death was the best Settling Accounts volume. |
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| Derfasciti | Jun 24 2008, 11:06 PM Post #39 |
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Agree. I think that even though we pretty much knew what was going to happen, there were plenty of surprises. I liked most of the books though a lot. American Empire was the only series I got annoyed with. It seemed to drag on a lot. But i'm sure that's because there was no war and no real sense of urgency. Almost everything seemed trivial. |
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| MapleLeafs4Ever | Jun 24 2008, 11:16 PM Post #40 |
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As others have commented, IatD was the best of the four. You should read it, alchemist, you won't be disappointed. |
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| SladeJack | Jun 24 2008, 11:39 PM Post #41 |
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All this AE bashing: I loved it! The fact that there were no battle scenes meant we could step back and focus on the broader swaths, watch events unfold like we would in a real history class or current events study without getting bogged down in repetitive nitty-gritty. "IMHO In at the Death was the best Settling Accounts volume." Agree. "I thought it basically died with the Grapple, taking OTl is one thing but it was just that he wasn't even bothering to vary the POV really just made it dull." Also agree, though I saw the writing on the wall in DttE. "I didn't even bother to grab IatD." As has been said, it managed a real rebound. Even if it didn't I find it hard to imagine reading ten books in a series and then taking a pass on the last one. Even if I didn't want to read it for its own sake, might as well close out what you've already done so much of. "That's why I picked it. I didn't know I was supposed to pick a 'bad' moment, just a moment." I was looking for a definitive shark-jumping moment when you realized HT had run out of ways to make the story as interesting as it had been thereto. |
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| Makkabee | Jun 25 2008, 05:03 AM Post #42 |
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It's hard to pick a single moment where the series jumped the shark. If I had to choose one warning sign that HT wasn't even trying to be original anymore, I'd probably go with the Confederate surprise attack on the USA starting on June 22, 1941 and being codenamed "Blackbeard" -- it's just too twee a reference to Barbarossa. |
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| Mellophonius | Jul 7 2008, 09:52 PM Post #43 |
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Definitely FDR, but I also think James Madison, as the author of the Constitution, needs to be on some sort of money, and unlike FDR (who at least has the dime), Madison has nothing. As for the third, Teddy Roosevelt sounds like a good idea - either him or JFK. One interetsting idea would be to put a civil rights leader like MLK on money - no one ever said it had to be a president, look at Hamilton and Franklin. Then again, they were politicians where MLK was not. I also don't see why Jackson is on the $20... what exactly did he do for the country? Well he did crusade agaisnt the native Americans... but that's not exactly a good thing. I think, if the mint won't start making more $2 bills, then Jefferson and Jackson should switch, so we see mroe of TJ and less of AJ. |
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| SladeJack | Jul 7 2008, 11:31 PM Post #44 |
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"and unlike FDR (who at least has the dime), Madison has nothing" He has the $5000 bill, which is out of print. Odd that they had all the large denominations before inflation went crazy. It reminds me a bit of Korea--they don't print anything larger than a 10,000 won bill (since we're talking faces, that one boasts Sae-Jong the Great's visage) so if you want to make a large purchase in cash you pretty much stuff all your pockets full of it. "I also think James Madison, as the author of the Constitution" That's overstating it quite a bit. "Then again, they were politicians where MLK was not." King was pretty damned politically active. "I also don't see why Jackson is on the $20... what exactly did he do for the country?" He set up the National Bank, defeated the Nullifiers, and helped pave the way to a strong executive. However, I agree that he doesn't deserve a bill, least of all the most common one, and I've long believed that either he or Grant should be replaced with Theodore Roosevelt. "I think, if the mint won't start making more $2 bills, then Jefferson and Jackson should switch, so we see mroe of TJ and less of AJ." If they won't start making two dollar bills? So Jackson belongs in oblivion? Just say you think he should be replaced with Jefferson. But there I disagree--During the Revolution he was great, writing the D of I and all, but his anti-federalism and opposition to the Constitution was a major negative, and as Sec State, VP, and President he was pretty disgraceful. He owned a newspaper. He would deliberately leave classified documents lying around his office when he was Sec State after he went home, leave the damned door unlocked, let the newspaper find shit, use it for anti-Administration editorials, and then deny any knowledge of where they got it to Washington. His mad Francophilia was dangerous, and in 200 years a President has yet to match his first great flip-flop once he attained the White House and betrayed all his old anti-Federalist principles. |
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| Makkabee | Jul 8 2008, 10:07 AM Post #45 |
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The large denomination bills were never in general circulation -- they transferred from bank to bank and were made obsolete by electronic transfers and modern computerized bookkeeping. |
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