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| SladeJack | Sep 4 2008, 09:21 AM Post #1 |
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Who ruled the Lion City under the terms of the Peace of Cairo, Japan or the Race? I forget and the map is too small for me to want to check the color of such a tiny area. I guess since Japan held a lot of its SE Asian gains it would be them, but I would prefer the Race because the Japs were so cruel there. (Par for the course, actually, which is the problem) and because it's never sat right with me that Japan got to keep any Southeast Asian colonies when Britain, which was still stronger at that point, got shorn of everything but Ulster. Also, wouldn't the West do like Molotov had done when Ribbentrop demanded Poland? Said "Hey, if the Lizards want it we can live with that, but we won't let you pretend it's yours by rights, not with the flowers still fresh on the graves of the soldiers of ours whom you killed to take it!" Then again, the US of this timeline suffered an unprecedented quarter-century of Tojo government despite the fact that for most of that time Japan relied on it for economic aid. |
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| Custer | Sep 4 2008, 01:29 PM Post #2 |
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I think Japan kept it. |
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| SladeJack | Sep 4 2008, 03:08 PM Post #3 |
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Yeah, probably. I wonder where I came up with that question. |
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| TR1 | Sep 4 2008, 03:27 PM Post #4 |
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Perhaps from a renewed interest in HT's other long running AH work now that 191-Fatigue has set in. |
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| Custer | Sep 4 2008, 03:32 PM Post #5 |
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At some point soon I aim order the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th books of the Videssos Cycle from Amazon. That will be my point of focus for interest in HT books. |
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| TR1 | Sep 4 2008, 03:38 PM Post #6 |
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I think I'm on the Atlantis train for the moment, although I am growing interested in finishing Darkness. |
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| SladeJack | Sep 4 2008, 04:05 PM Post #7 |
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My interest in TL-127 has always been strong. But if it were suddenly rekindled--would such an obscure and insignificant question really be the first thing to come to mind? I'm reading the Krispos trilogy. That's fun though I'm not sure I'm prepared to commit to the rest of that universe. I'm eagerly awaiting the Atlantis continuation and am also more excited than I might have expected for the BtG sequel. I've got an off-topic but related question since we're discussing AH series. Stirling's On the Oceans of Eternity is appealing to me quite a bit but the others interest me less and I don't want to commit to a trilogy. Can OtOoE be read as a standalone? (Even if you say no I think I'm going to try to do it anyway.) |
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| Custer | Sep 4 2008, 04:15 PM Post #8 |
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There are some people who say that Videssos is a better read if you start out with the Videssos Cycle first before committing to the Tales of Krispos, Times of Troubles, and BoS. Having read the ToK before beginning the Cycle, I don't really agree with their assessment but if you're one of those types who need to read their books in a certain order, it's something to consider. |
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| TR1 | Sep 4 2008, 04:19 PM Post #9 |
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My inclination with Videssos might be to start with BotS since it's set earliest in the universe's history, and then move forward. |
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| SladeJack | Sep 4 2008, 05:32 PM Post #10 |
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I usually start with the installment that is set earliest in the storyline's chronology. With this one, though, since they were written as standalones and since, as I said, I have no immediate plans to read the others at present, I didn't worry about it. |
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| Makkabee | Sep 4 2008, 07:45 PM Post #11 |
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I'd say read them in the order they're written. You're going to to lose an element of surprise no matter which segment you start on, because HT springs the same surprise on his characters in several eras, but I think BotS works well where that element is dramatic irony rather than a surprise twist, and was written with that in mind. I really hope he goes back to the Videssos universe and writes more in it. In the mean time, I'm also looking forward to the next Atlantis book. |
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| SladeJack | Sep 4 2008, 08:11 PM Post #12 |
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I just hope Atlantis lives up to our expectations and that he doesn't just continue to make Vicky Radcliff a Washington clone. I also hope he writes original novellas instead of repackaging the earlier Atlantis stories, as there was some scuttlebut that he might. I haven't read them so they're new to me, and I'd like to seek them out (I'm holding off till I learn whether they will appear in USA or in Book 3) but I don't like the idea of pushing an old story in a new book. Vaspurakaners--heretics because they claim they're princes--I'm losing patience with the characters talking around that. What's going on there? |
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| Makkabee | Sep 4 2008, 09:35 PM Post #13 |
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They're sort of a cross between Armenians and Jews. Appearance, placement, and common basic religion with the Empire from the Armenian mold, Phos's firstborn/chosen people from Judaism. There's more to it than that but I don't want to give away plot points for anyone who hasn't read the appropriate books. The Videssian viewpoint character in the Time of Troubles series is an ethnic Vaspurakaner who worships Phos in the Orthodox manner. I get the sneaking suspicion HT particularly identifies with the Vaspurakaners. |
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| SladeJack | Sep 4 2008, 11:50 PM Post #14 |
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I suddenly realized that as a senior admin on Turtlewiki, if I got to the point where I couldn't stand the coyness of HT's exposition in an old book, I didn't have to. Also learned what I assume you meant by the surprise that HT springs on every generation. I rather wish I hadn't--That's the sort of surprise I would stand up and say "Wow, hat's off to you, Doc!" had I earned the knowledge, unlike the more usual "That's all you've got, Harry?" Then again I had my suspicions well along those lines already when I found out why Harvas mutilated Iakovitzes. |
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| TR1 | Sep 5 2008, 02:10 PM Post #15 |
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Well, he certainly will have the Atlantean WFI, and I hope the Servile Insurrection and the founding of the House of Eternal Devotion. For my part, I'm okay with repackaging the two stories in this or the 3rd book. I have read them, but I like the idea of being able to go to my bookshelf and having them there rather than keep track of the photocopies I took of them (which, as you might imagine, are MIA in two moves), or go to the library and get new copies from the Analog issues (no longer an option as I don't think the Meeker library carries Analog). |
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