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Re-Application Restrictions (?)
Topic Started: Jul 20 2008, 06:52 AM (342 Views)
Matsimela
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Well, my application for Role Player status has recently been denied, and I couldn't help but notice that re-application is mentioned in the Application Instructions. I was wondering what the procedure for re-application was, whether there was a time restriction of some sort between applications. I would like to re-apply as soon as possible.

I understand why the application system is in place, and why it would not be permissible for re-application so soon after it had been turned down, but I feel that I can justify why my application was unsatisfactory and was a poor choice for my application.

I admit that the piece of work I submitted as my application was rather lacking, but there were several key reason that led to me deciding on it...

1) It was from the perspective of a character I had created on Abydos before the re-vamping and re-opening.

2) I figured that although it was fairly short and could have been better written, it was an example of what I had already written and had appeared adequate for the role play I was involved in at the time.

With this in mind, I would greatly appreciate if re-application after such a short time would be considered on my behalf, and I already have a submission written up should my request be accepted. Ultimately, I leave the decision up to you, and understand regardless what you decide on.
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Kaeldurn
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I'd hope that its relatively soon, I enjoyed your posts before the "Great Purge".

I'm not real sure what major flags are being looked for during the application process. For instance I found Alkarii's to be fairly good, not amazing, but far from under-par.

This is just me, of course, and I'm fairly sure my word throws around little weight.
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Ričle
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Hmm... good question! Let me think a minute.

First, how about an explanation? Since we don't have time to write elaborate reviews of the applications, it seems only fair.

I don't have any particular problem with anyone who's applied - I like these people, and I think they have great potential. I'd love it if they improved and came back to write here. Matsemela, your writing is very good, and I think that with more development/practice you're well on your way to becoming an awesome writer.

I have a great deal of experience as an admin and a mod on role playing boards - I know how much work these things are, how much time I have, and how much help I'm likely to get from those around me whom I'm willing to let help me out. I know that I cannot manage an enormous board, or a board that allows in enough 'aspiring'/'improving' writers that it gets high-maintenance members. Thus, for now, I've drawn a line in terms of writing ability for admission to the board.

For now, this board is intended to be small and advanced-only. If the board is going to grow larger, I need it to do so in a way that will not make it an exponentially larger amount of work to manage - this means accepting more mature individuals / better writers (these aren't always correlated, I realize). So we may get a lot of members applying who have good potential, but they won't be accepted because, at present, that is not the intended nature of this board.

I am completely open to changing this policy in the future, if the board expands and I get more help running it. Members need to realize, however, that it will be a long time before this happens, and it may not happen. I completely encourage aspiring writers to role play, I like playing with them and watching them improve, but I simply can't put the work into this board that it would need to make it such a place.

I anticipate that someone is going to reply below "So just promote some moderators! Why are you the only one running the board?" It's because 1) those people who I'd like to make moderators, because they would be able to help me in a way I want this board to progress, don't have time for it either; and 2) hiring eager individuals with time but who aren't what I'm looking for are only going to make additional work for me, because I'll have to oversee everything they do and every way they try to expand the board to other members.

I'm here to write, too. If I have to spend all of my time with admin/moderator stuff then I don't get to write. I then get miserable and discouraged and I don't want to run the board anymore. It sounds totally selfish, and I suppose it is, but I'm just not willing to sacrifice my own time for writing to create a board that includes teaching and improving below the level we're currently looking for. I want to encourage that learning process, but I do not have the capacity to do it here.

Moving on to the next question, what is it that we're currently looking for? Well, I pulled together some writers who I've been writing with for a long time and whose abilities I respect. A lot of you know us from elsewhere, but if not you can browse around and see what our writing is like. We look for writing with depth, introspection, imagination, good wording that's interesting to read... basically we ask ourselves if we would want to write with this person. There isn't a specific checklist that we're going down, we simply read the sample to see if it captures our interest. We then discuss whether we like it, and if we do we admit the applicant.

I realize this isn't very specific, and to some it may seem unfair. But I really can't think of an application for a role playing board I've ever encountered that is 100% fair. I feel that as long as it answers the question "do you fit in here", though, it is in essence as fair as it can be. You can make as many arguments against the long applications that nitpick character profiles and definitions of godmoding as you can for mine. But for here it tells me whether the applicant will fit in on the board - yes or no. If they don't then no one will be happy in the end... so there you have it.

As for re-applications, the policy is once a month (as stated in the rules for applications). Matsimela, I knew your old posts were in the archives and the committee did see them as well. We didn't turn you down for nitpicking on small things that were wrong with one post. The board has completely changed from what it was before, so it is possible that some members who were Role Players when the board first opened might not pass the application process now.

I don't, however, want to discourage people from writing - I'm posting button links to affiliates at the bottom of the board so that people can find other places to write if they can't find a place here. Anyone, please feel free to check these out! I'm hoping to expand the list over time as well :)

Good luck!
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I just had a thought. A bit of a small one, but a thought nonetheless.

If the point arises where we need more people, and some of them aren't quite up to par, then perhaps we could have an Improvement Section where those people could Role Play amongst themselves and hone their verbal skills? You could just appoint someone as a moderator over that particular section, and they could handle all of the problems that would arise. Any thoughts?
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I don't really foresee that happening. But, again, I'm not willing to oversee a board that's going to become more work that I can feasibly handle, and an 'intermediate' section is not something I believe I can deal with - whether it has its own moderator or not.

If people want to role play somewhere at an 'intermediate' (less-advanced, differently suited... what you will) level, then they need to do it on another board - it can't be a special area or under special circumstances on Abydos. At this time I'm simply not open to having it here, for reasons explained above.
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Matsimela
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Well, although I do respect the decision and intend to re-apply during the next month, I do have a small quarrel with a minor detail mentioned above. Now, this may clear itself up, it may just be a simple matter requiring some elaboration, but I would like to bring to your attention the counter-productive nature of the second last paragraph of your post at 4:48pm this afternoon...

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As for re-applications, the policy is once a month (as stated in the rules for applications). Matsimela, I knew your old posts were in the archives and the committee did see them as well. We didn't turn you down for nitpicking on small things that were wrong with one post. The board has completely changed from what it was before, so it is possible that some members who were Role Players when the board first opened might not pass the application process now.


I would like to point out that from what you've said here the committee was given a look at not only the application I decided to submit, but also the archived posts I had written in the past. Those posts from the archive were NOT and should NOT have had anything to do with my application, ESPECIALLY when you take into consideration the remainder of the paragraph in which you state that the "board has completely changed." Pretty much this committee was given access to my roleplaying abilities from BEFORE the bar was raised.

I hope that you can see where I'm coming from with bringing this up, because, well we all have our better posts, and let me tell you those archived posts were NOT anything special, and I would appreciate an explanation regarding why they would have had anything to do with my application.
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Ričle
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Your archived posts were lovely, I don't see a reason to be so upset? Ah, well. I don't believe it made a difference in your application, if that is reassuring to you. I understand that members would wish to edit or improve on old posts for an application (and would absolutely take that into consideration when reading it) - please don't think that we don't look for improvement.

All right, I think this topic has been answered! Good luck with your next app, Matsimela ^_^
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