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Clown Loaches; do they breed in community
Topic Started: Aug 21 2007, 04:25 PM (679 Views)
iceken
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im just wondering if these guys ever breed in communities as i have 3 which are alwayas realli playful and chase each other around all day. wondering if there are any "signs" of breeding
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scuba123cliff
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I have heard that clowns breed at a large size(300mm+)
and need the help of chemicals, fact or fiction i dont know.

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Stuart Elflett
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Large size - yes... chemicals - more likely an idea propogated by one of the fish games out there...

Chasing each other round is what they do - like danios...
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Has anyone googled it? :unsure2:
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Ok.... pretty much I could only come up with one reported case of Clown Loaches breeding in an aquarium and that case is believed with skepticism due to no photo's being produced as proof...

But here is some info about it anyway from:

http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/breedi...wn_Loaches.html

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Clown loaches have been bred in aquariums, however it is very rare. Sexing clown loaches externally is hard, but possible by looking at the tail fin. The tail fin tips on the male are slightly bent inwards, making the fin look a little bit like a claw. The tail fin tips on the females aren't shaped like this.

Clown loaches have to be quite old and at least 7 inches / 17 cm before they are sexually mature. In the one good account of clown loaches spawning they spawned under the following conditions:
-  Temp: 84F
-  pH: 6.5
-  Ammonia & Nitrite: 0
-  Nitrate: < 25

Four large clown loaches (over 25 cm /10 inches) were kept together in a planted aquarium, and a few weeks before spawning they changed their behaviour and started eating live fish as their only accepted food. The females in the group grew very fast on this diet, and had doubled in girth by the time of spawning. The night during which the spawning took place, two clowns were swimming close beneath the surface entwined in each other and "clicking." The next morning, 450 eggs were found spread about the aquarium. Clown loaches eat their own eggs, so it is recommended moving the parents if you wish to succeed in spawning them.

The fry were fed liquid fry food for the first two weeks, after which they accepted crushed flakes. They grew relatively fast, to 2.5 cm/ 1 inch in 6 weeks. After that the growth rate slowed down.

It's suggested that older fish are essential for breeding since this fish might have to be quite old to be sexually mature. Clown loaches live to be about 50 years, so it is quite feasible that they may spawn later in life than many other species.




There is also more info here (this article mentions about hormone-induced breeding of Clown Loaches):

http://www.loaches.com/articles/clown-loac...g-related-items


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Stuart Elflett
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No, but I've got it in a 'Practical Fishkeeping' compiled book I picked up off ebay... has breeding paramaters for lots of fish we don't even see mentioned around the traps, sample setups for hundreds of tanks, etc... one of the best resources I've got... will check it next time I'm in the reading room... :) (yes, it's in the 'boys' toilet... (I'm the only boy... I *win*!!!))
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Well you'd better start reading Stuart and let us in on all the secrets :lol: :lol:
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Well done guys, :clap
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Just helping out where I can :yes
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Yep, they need to be mature, which equals old and large, necessitating a big tank - water needs to be very well maintained, and professional breeders inject them with an enzyme found in the pituitary gland - that will bring them on to spawn fairly reliably... otherwise it can be a long wait... the book I have suggests they're a little easier to sex than that, listing a couple more differences, but it's at home and I'm at work... lol
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iceken
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geeez, takes quite alot of work breeding these. dont think ill try :lol:
thanx for all the info every1 very interesting especially the injecting of enzymes :)

thanx thanx :) :thanks
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you're welcome Iceken :yes :yes
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iceken
Aug 22 2007, 05:21 PM
geeez, takes quite alot of work breeding these. dont think ill try :lol:
thanx for all the info every1 very interesting especially the injecting of enzymes :)

thanx thanx :) :thanks

We had a pair of Snakehead gudgeons, at this point of time they havnt been bred in captivity. So we had the vet come out to inject with the hormones a few times over a period of time.

Very expensive excersize and unfortunatly no result :cry2
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iceken
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awww bad luck aggies. just wondering y doesnt my saratoga eat or harras the clown loaches? is it common for all fish not to harass them because ive read loaches have some poisonous thing near their heads release it when stressed or under atack.or is it just my toga, i tried adding some bn and he started chasing them so i took em out.
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Loaches have little blades near the gill plate that they extend and use if they are being harrassed. Very sharp so sometimes you need to be carefull handling them when in a net.

The sara may still take them one day though, you can never tell with them as they will live with certain fish for ages then they may slowly dissapear. :thumb

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