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| solution | Mar 10 2008, 08:51 PM Post #221 |
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that's a stable they should keep right there. santino looks awesome with several chicks. |
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| H-AIDS | Mar 10 2008, 08:52 PM Post #222 |
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I understand you have your little BS theory that tries to make Cena look like some genius who is "tricking" people, but the fact is he gets booed because's average in the ring, re-packages Rock/Austin catchphrases as his own, and appeals to 12-year-olds. While other guys can appeal to all crowds, Cena is only liked by one age range, which is why he will never be a true megastar for the WWE. |
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| Jevs | Mar 10 2008, 08:52 PM Post #223 |
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OMG, how many people are we gonna see point at that fucking logo? |
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| the White John Cena 2.5 | Mar 10 2008, 08:53 PM Post #224 |
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No not at all, besides the fact that ratings drop when he's not on the show and that he's a good PR guy and that he sells a shit ton of merch, draws the loudest, most dynamic reactions, and puts on great PPV matches, you're absolutely right. Let me ask you something, who's better, Shelton Benjamin or John Cena? |
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| Markswoggle | Mar 10 2008, 08:54 PM Post #225 |
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I predict Santino getting dropped by Snoop at Wrestlemania. |
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| H-AIDS | Mar 10 2008, 08:55 PM Post #226 |
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Wow, ratings drop when he's not on the show, that's remarkable. I wonder if it's because a bunch of pre-teens stop watching. But that really is remarkable, ratings go from shitty to shittier when Cena isn't around. Meanwhile Vince McMahon thinks back on the days when WWE had real stars leading the way and not a one-dimensional wrestler whose claim to fame is being so bad that he gets big heel reactions while trying to play a face. And both of those two suck. Cena is a better entertainer, they are both average in the ring. |
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| Jevs | Mar 10 2008, 08:55 PM Post #227 |
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Is Mayweather supposed to be a heel? I haven't seen a face brag this much about being rich since Rock used to brag about his $5,000 shirts. |
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| Big Tuna | Mar 10 2008, 08:57 PM Post #228 |
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Just because they're kids doesn't mean they don't count. Kids buy a shitload of merch and go to shows, and in many ways are more important than what any one of us thinks. |
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| TARVDF | Mar 10 2008, 08:57 PM Post #229 |
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They're trying to make him out as the face, and Big Show as the heel, so it will be pretty hilarious when they face off at WM and Big Show is the one getting cheered and Mayweather is going to be booed out of the building. |
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| Markswoggle | Mar 10 2008, 08:57 PM Post #230 |
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I only saw one female... |
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| H-AIDS | Mar 10 2008, 08:58 PM Post #231 |
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Why is everyone constantly bringing up merchandise sales? I'm not WWE, I don't care how much money they make selling "COME GET SOME!" tee-shirts. What I care about is being entertained, and Cena doesn't do that unless you're 13 or enjoy bad wrestling. Cena isn't a megastar. Rock was a megastar because he appealed to smarks, little kids, and everyone in-between. Cena appeals to little kids, and nobody else for the most part. |
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| Jevs | Mar 10 2008, 08:58 PM Post #232 |
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LOL. Shane wont acknowledge the World Championship as the WCW championship. |
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| the White John Cena 2.5 | Mar 10 2008, 09:00 PM Post #233 |
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First off, ratings aren't shitty, believe it or not, 3.5 is good considering all the other choices as opposed to the Attitude era and that 6's are extraordinary. Cena is changing opinions, the concensus of a LOT of people is that he's not as bad as they thought. Yes, a ratings drop is something, it means that he's the most popular guy, which means that he's the best on the roster by the most basic standards. Also, I'd rather have a guy who draws a fuckload of pre-teens than someone who draws 600 net fans. The kids are the ones who get the merch, who pull at their parents pockets. Also, it's a cycle WWE is creating, who do you think Hogan appealed to? Who felt a loyalty to WWF? Who then grew older and guys like Rock appealed to? The business needs change, just because it's a change that you (and honestly, me) dislike and are not entertained by doesn't make it wrong. I'm not stupid enough to confuse opinion and fact, fact is, WWE will draw nearly 100,000 fans at Wrestlemania, Wrestlemania will likely get huge buyrates, tonights Raw will get a rating of near 4, and Raw will be USA's highest rated original programming. WWE will also expand globally and continue to make a lot of money. WWE is a very healthy company, they know more about the business of wrestling than you and I do, whether you agree with that or not, it's a fact. |
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| TARVDF | Mar 10 2008, 09:00 PM Post #234 |
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I wouldn't say that, he appeals to grown up males who have grown up in wrestling, ie me. |
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| Big Tuna | Mar 10 2008, 09:00 PM Post #235 |
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Wait a minute here. I enjoy John Cena. At the same time, my favorite wrestlers of all time are Bret Hart, Benoit, Eddie, Kawada, Jumbo Tsuruta, and some other people of this extent. Are you going to tell me that I like bad wrestling? Anyways, I'm actually real interested in all this Mayweather/Show shit. |
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| Jevs | Mar 10 2008, 09:01 PM Post #236 |
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OMG, this feud would be so much better if Mayweather was playing the over confident heel, trying to pick a fight with the biggest wrestler just to make a statement that he is "the best". |
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| the White John Cena 2.5 | Mar 10 2008, 09:03 PM Post #237 |
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Guess what HAIDS, you opinion DOESN'T MATTER, you're not WWE's targeted audience, why judge Cena on your scale when he's not even meant to appeal to you, that's fucking retarded. Think about this, if people 13 years old and younger buy the most merch and sell out arenas and pop like crazy and very easily, then why the fuck shouldn't WWE try to appeal to them? Why should they care about you? This is the WWE, they have NEVER been the premire in ring wrestling company in the world, get over it, they're a BUSINESS, they're in it to make money, that's why you should care about merch, because WWE cares about it, so that's why they make the decisions they do. You'd be a fool to expect them to cater to a small percentage of their audience, especially when most smart marks will watch Raw, if nothing else, to find shit to bitch about. |
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| Jevs | Mar 10 2008, 09:03 PM Post #238 |
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Damn, I weigh more than Mayweather and I'm not even fat or really muscular. |
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| Lord Nerevar | Mar 10 2008, 09:03 PM Post #239 |
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Mayweather's "custom pants" looked Bedazzled. |
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| H-AIDS | Mar 10 2008, 09:04 PM Post #240 |
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The consensus among who? The countless fans in every arena WWE goes to that boo him out of the building? This opinion that "making the most money makes you the best" is just pathetic. I don't care if John Cena makes more money for WWE than Randy Orton. Am I making that money with them? No. It doesn't matter to me who WWE consider's their biggest asset. John Cena sucks at wrestling. Maybe he's good at recycling catchphrases and changing the words around, and appealing to little kids, but he's not a good wrestler. Randy Orton is. I can't believe you're asking me why I judge Cena based on my own scale. BECAUSE I WANT TO BE ENTERTAINED. Your'e the one with the "fucking retarded" points in this thread, why the hell would I care who entertains little Billy? |
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