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Chaotic Vision6
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Morishima was so consistent. Almost every title defense he had was atleast good. Than you had the total fun stuff like Hero and Morishima vs Williams and Nigel. Morishima played the role great in ROH and continued to improve to the cater the ROH fans as the year went on.
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I don't think he improved that much to be honest. Apart from getting smarter about using Backdrops, the Morishima you saw in April is the same one you saw in December, just more established. I think the illusion of improvement was given in the Claudio, SHINGO, and Danielson matches, and I was convinced. Then I saw the Albright, Steen, etc. matches and realised he's the same guy in ROH as he was before. If anything, he learned that ROH doesn't matter much in his career at this point and was a minor playground for him before he won the belt, which sucks, but is true.
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I thought at first he was letting his opponents get too much offense specially when they were a lot smaller but towards the end he just started clubbing people. But yea he was good before no doubt.
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Morishima, IMO, didn't improve, because he did the same match every time. If anything, he just got better opponents as his stay went on.
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That could be true also. His matches were pretty formulatic. It just seemed like to me he did less stuff like drop kicks off the top rope toward the end and started Wrestling a little stiffer. I don't know if it actually happened it just lookedl ike it to me. Either way he had a lot of really good matches this year IMO.
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I was just gonna say it says a lot about the year Danielson had considering he was in over 30 plus matches that Simon had picked and the guy was injured until May. Makes you wonder how many MOTY contendors he woulda been in had he not missed any time.
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Big Tuna
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Well, when you look at it that way...Jimmy Jacobs had 17, and he was out of actual competition for nearly 7 months. Without an injury, I could very well see him as the winner.

The interesting thing is to see 2008's list, as Danielson, Claudio, Hero, and Jacobs are all healthy (for pro-wrestling anyways) and in competition.
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In June Simon will be a fan for 10 years? So you became a fan in '98? How old are you? I've been a fan since '95, I'm 18, not braggin' that I've been a fan longer, but just wondering, since we have similar views on wrestling (cept the Chikara stuff) and I have a theory.
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I became a fan at King of the Ring 1998, when the PPV/cable company accidentally gave it to us, and Mankind, Taker, and Austin had me hooked. I then watched Raw and Nitro the next night, and I loved it, ans since about 2002, my parents/family have stopped trying to get me to stop.

I turned 18 a few weeks ago.
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I turn 19 in a few weeks. I became a fan at Halloween Havoc '95, I had watched before, but I never really got into it. My grandpa always used to watch WCW PPVs, so that really helped out my fanhood watching the best wrestling promotion from '95-'98.

My theory is that people who were marks at similar times have similar views. Also, for similar promotions.

Could have swore you were watching WCW before that since you talk about the whole Sting angle, which you would have missed if you became a fan in '98. I think that's most people's reason for not loving WCW, they all became fans of WWF in '98, and the fools don't know the glory of WCW from May '96-December '97. Actually, the seeds for Hogan/Sting were planted as soon as Hogan came in, really intelligent and somehow, still, underrated angle.
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In this day an age, all you need is the internet, patience, and a decent sized hard drive to enjoy past angles. Over the last year, I've watched a majority of the Nitros from May of 96 to mid 98, and gotten myself aqauinted with it.

It's quite odd that the first thing you saw was Havoc 95. How did you feel that The Giant fell off a building and yet wrestled later in the show?
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Dude I freaked the fuck out, he was seriously the scariest guy in the world for about 10 minutes, then my grandpa was like "pfft, they had a net" and I was like "WTF, it's not real?" he was like "it's half real" so then I went back to enjoying it, not giving any thought to what he said.

I was 6 years old at the time.
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