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| Tonight, We Die; End of the World? | |
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| UnknownBearing | Sep 9 2008, 02:36 PM Post #1 |
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or so they say. tonight, the French will begin an experiment they've been preparing for since 15 years ago. meet the Large Hadron Collider: ![]() what they're planning to do, is take some protons and smash them together really, really hard., close to the speed of light. they hope this will re-create the big bang so they can study the beginning of the universe. the greatest fear is that this process involves creating a miniscule black hole that should vanish almost instantly. should. almost. you can see why people are afraid. if the black hole doesnt vanish, we're all dead. however, the odds are 1 in 50,000,000,000. and these kind of black holes happen all the time in our atmosphere, and none of them kill us. im not exactly sure what they plan to do if it works but, my prediction is that this experiment will turn out like the countless before it: absolutely nothing will happen. no black hole, no big bang. this is beyond the reach of man. (source here later) so? is this our last night on earth? if so, what final words do we have for each other? |
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| onyx spartan | Sep 9 2008, 02:44 PM Post #2 |
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| na na nah | Sep 9 2008, 03:23 PM Post #3 |
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na na na na na na
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i have no opinion. i dont really care if we die or not
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| gunbladeproxy | Sep 10 2008, 06:54 AM Post #4 |
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We are still alive so the world didn't end.
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| na na nah | Sep 10 2008, 12:09 PM Post #5 |
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na na na na na na
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| Ehren | Sep 11 2008, 06:41 PM Post #6 |
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[Rolls eyes] First of all, it crosses the border between Switzerland and France at four points, but most of it is in France. Second of all, 40 countries are working together, including everyone's favorite physicists, the Americans, Germans/Swedes, and Russians. Third of all, they've been working on it for little more than TWENTY, yes, 20 years on this, so you think they've been doing a bit of planning? The word atom comes from the Greek word meaning “not divisible.” The Greeks are therefore the fathers of physics, but they believed this fundamental particle was indestructible. Scientists have since learned that atoms are not indivisible but made of smaller particles, and atoms of different elements contain different numbers of each type of these smaller particles. And I can tell you don't know the slightest thing about the quantum theory, like the work of Bohrs and Rutherford, or how about Louis de Broglie, Erwin Schrödinger, Werner Heisenberg, or Wolfgang Pauli? I bet you don't know even who Max Planck is. You're just listening to the opinion of someone, who like yourself, probably doesn't know the slightest of what he/she's talking about or got they're calculations off by a bit. |
| Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin van-guarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. | |
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| UnknownBearing | Sep 11 2008, 07:05 PM Post #7 |
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o.o how condescending and assumptious. lol. uhh...well yeah. this reply is a bit too late. i got a clearer understanding of the LHC and its purpose after thorough research and the magic of the history channel. plus a clinically insane world cultures teacher doesnt hurt. but yeah, Geneva switzerland, underground, blah. but actually everything you said i already knew at the point of posting. i dont see why you bring up the definition of the atom though... and...honestly i am a bit taken aback by the assumptiousness of the last part. slightly offended actually. i used to pay no attention in my computer classes, instead i read up on quantum physics, as well as other things like space/time theory, electromagnetism, dark matter, the works of faraday, minkowski, hawking, disregarding a boring class to learn more interesting things. so not only do i have as much an understanding of quantum physic as a student wasting time in class can have, but also in other areas of interest. but you must remember, one does not write a serious post, unless expecting a serious discussion.
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| Ehren | Sep 11 2008, 07:19 PM Post #8 |
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Ah, so then you know the theory of Schrödinger's Cat? Could you discuss the works of Schrödinger and his succession of Planck's works? I'd like to know what you think of de Broglie's mechanics and their influence upon Schrödinger's, as well as the association of de Broglie's theory and Einstein's. I'm also quite interested with the Hamiltonian function. Although, I don't really understand what drove Schrödinger to change from quantum physics to more philosophical pursuits. |
| Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin van-guarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. | |
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| UnknownBearing | Sep 11 2008, 07:33 PM Post #9 |
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i'd be more than happy to. sadly though, this is not a thread to discuss the particular works of the brilliant men of our past, but to discuss the results of CERN and the LHC. if the discussion finds its way to theoretical discussion, so be it. as sad as it makes me to say, i think that as awesome as the LHC is, and that they spent 80 billion some dollars and 2 decades of time on this experiment, there is plenty room for utter failure. for one thing, do we know for sure that "close to the speed of light" is going to be a fast enough speed to actually smash the protons? what if they just bounced off each other? or worse yet, once they reach the machine's intended acceleration. the streams never collide. they could keep trying and trying, but in the end they'd have to adjust the machine. LHC could yield amazing unprecedented discoveries that will change our way of conventional thinking concerning the universe, or it could be an endless cycle of repair, reworking, rethinking and failure. (certainly not a black hole however. lol.) |
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