Brian Banks False Rape Accusation

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Brian Banks False Rape Accusation
Topic Started: Jun 19 2012, 05:35 PM (11,479 Views)
Premier Bromanov	Jun 19 2012, 05:35 PM Post #1
Posts: 6,483 Group: Character Member #25 Joined: November 12, 2010 Gender Male Favorite Character Samara Preferred Love Interest Jack	Brian Banks, a high school football player with a promising future is accused of rape by a childhood friend, Wanetta Gibson. He pleads no contest to the accusation, in an attempt to get his sentence reduced, and he is tried as an adult (I don't know how, or why). The woman receives $1.5 million from their high school, because she said the rape took place on campus, and thus the campus was not safe. Later, she recants, and says that the rape never took place. He's freed, but he has trouble getting work, because he's still registered as a felon and a sex offender. Now, he's trying out for football teams, and he's seeking money from the state of Michigan. I'm confused about a bunch of things. 1) What evidence did she present? 2) If there was no evidence, how was there a conviction? 3) Why was he tried as an adult? 4) Was his lawyer incompetent? 5) Why is the school not doing anything about the money it gave to Ms. Gibson? 6) Why isn't Ms. Gibson being charged with making a false rape accusation? 7) What's wrong with her? A link. He also has a Kickstarter Project to document what happened.
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The_Numerator	Jun 19 2012, 06:43 PM Post #2
OctoPussywillow Posts: 2,775 Group: Character Member #40 Joined: November 15, 2010 Gender Male	I'm more confused by the point about their unwillingness to pursue charges against her for having made false accusations, on the grounds that "it would be a tough case to prove". Unless I'm missing something, isn't the proof the fact that she stated that her earlier accusation was not true?



magelet	Jun 19 2012, 07:02 PM Post #3
Lady of Caps Lock Posts: 6,319 Group: Character Member #45 Joined: November 20, 2010 Gender Female Favorite Character Ser Pounce-A-Lot	Was he convicted of rape or did she just get money from the school by...suing them or something?



The_Numerator	Jun 19 2012, 07:16 PM Post #4
OctoPussywillow Posts: 2,775 Group: Character Member #40 Joined: November 15, 2010 Gender Male	It seems like he was accused, couldn't figure out how to prove he didn't do it, and thinking he'd lose in his-word-against-hers, he pled guilty to a lesser charge rather than risk it.



Premier Bromanov	Jun 19 2012, 07:27 PM Post #5
Posts: 6,483 Group: Character Member #25 Joined: November 12, 2010 Gender Male Favorite Character Samara Preferred Love Interest Jack	The_Numerator Jun 19 2012, 07:16 PM It seems like he was accused, couldn't figure out how to prove he didn't do it, and thinking he'd lose in his-word-against-hers, he pled guilty to a lesser charge rather than risk it. Yes, seems that's what happened. But what evidence was presented for her case? Just her word? If so, why didn't he fight that? And why was her word adequate enough for a conviction?
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Alice829	Jun 19 2012, 07:27 PM Post #6
Virtuoso Posts: 4,894 Group: Character Member #245 Joined: July 13, 2011 Gender Female	I don't know, this sounds fishy. Would you confess to something you didn't do? In the US, the burden of proof is on the prosecution, they have to prove he did do it, he doesn't have to prove that he didn't, i.e. prove a negative. The prosecution has to have evidence; this is the whole idea behind "habeus corpus" that Bush chucked out when locking people up who were suspected of terrorism. The point is they have to have some evidence to pursue a case, and usually, the opposite is true, that it's very difficult to prosecute a rape case based solely on a victim's testimony. So something seems askew here. I know the justice system is a long way from perfect, but I can't believe even someone fresh out of law school wouldn't have gotten this tossed if the prosecution had no evidence but the victim's testimony. And even more incredible that the school would pony up major $$$ based on her say-so and nothing else. He must have had the worst legal advice in the world to accept a plea bargain, or we aren't hearing the whole story.



The_Numerator	Jun 19 2012, 07:33 PM Post #7
OctoPussywillow Posts: 2,775 Group: Character Member #40 Joined: November 15, 2010 Gender Male	"Rape accusation" Heart sinks. Mind lost in a fog. Surrender, only hope.



Kabraxal	Jun 19 2012, 07:41 PM Post #8
Lone Wolf Posts: 1,477 Group: Character Member #261 Joined: July 25, 2011 Gender Male Favorite Character Leliana, Miranda, Ashley, Jack, Morrigan, Alistair	In today's world it's a bit funky considering that more people are now skeptical of a woman claiming rape after the whole Duke larosse fiasco. Course, he's young and maybe he was confused by the friend betraying him and didn't know what to do.
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mopotter	Jun 19 2012, 07:50 PM Post #9
Guru Posts: 5,517 Group: Character Member #87 Joined: December 30, 2010 Gender Female Favorite Character Revan and Carth - Shepard and Kaidan, Sky and My friend Garrus	My state of amazement was the point where she friended him on facebook. He was in high school, 16. There was no DNA evidence, but the person supposed to help him said: “She told me I was a big black teenager,” he said, “and no jury would believe anything I said.” I can see it happening. The girl was 15, he was a football player. Who knows why, I don't think she has given her reason. Why his parents went along don't know. I'd be fighting everyone if my kid were being charged for something without evidence that he/she said they hadn't done.
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mopotter	Jun 19 2012, 07:58 PM Post #10
Guru Posts: 5,517 Group: Character Member #87 Joined: December 30, 2010 Gender Female Favorite Character Revan and Carth - Shepard and Kaidan, Sky and My friend Garrus	She also told him if he didn't admit to it and was found guilty he'd be in till he was 57. By admitting to it he spent 5 years in prison. At 16 I would think getting out at 21 would sound better than 57 and at 16 I don't think he realized the total cost of admitting to something he hadn't done.
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Raphael diSanto	Jun 19 2012, 08:03 PM Post #11
Dangerously Brilliant Posts: 9,239 Group: Raph Member #197 Joined: April 19, 2011 Gender Male	The_Numerator Jun 19 2012, 07:33 PM "Rape accusation" Heart sinks. Mind lost in a fog. Surrender, only hope. Juries don't like accused rapists. Especially non-white ones. Not that I specifically want to play the color card, but it's always going to be a factor. He's a big black football player. She's a little white girl victim. It's gonna look bad for him, evidence or no evidence. And mo, perhaps he wrongly 'confessed' to his parents, too, so for the last 5 years they also thought he did it.
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Sia	Jun 19 2012, 08:07 PM Post #12
The General Posts: 25,906 Group: Sia Member #15 Joined: November 10, 2010 Gender Female Favorite Character Shepard, Hawke, The Warden	Well... he also might have been a bit on the ignorant side of what a sexual act was. Remember those rumors going around about how kissing could get you pregnant?
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Leah	Jun 19 2012, 08:13 PM Post #13
forge-fairy Posts: 3,629 Group: Character Member #357 Joined: May 10, 2012 Gender Female Favorite Character Martha Jones	Sia Jun 19 2012, 08:07 PM Well... he also might have been a bit on the ignorant side of what a sexual act was. Remember those rumors going around about how kissing could get you pregnant? that and there was that movie, Higher Learning? when characters start having consensual sex and then she realizes, he's not wearing a condom and from that point on for her it becomes a rape? may be they had an argument and she changed her mind or whatever not and even he got confused enough to think he did something wrong and misunderstood her consent? what kills me about that case though is the reason why she had doubts about coming out with the truth. the fact that she put an Innocent man into jail was not bothering her, oh no. its the fact that she was afraid that they would make her give back the money. Edited by Leah, Jun 19 2012, 08:14 PM.
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Sia	Jun 19 2012, 08:15 PM Post #14
The General Posts: 25,906 Group: Sia Member #15 Joined: November 10, 2010 Gender Female Favorite Character Shepard, Hawke, The Warden	One thing's for sure, poor guy's going to need a lifetime of headshrinking. Mostly, it sounds like some people made political hay out of this poor kid's future. Edited by Sia, Jun 19 2012, 08:16 PM.
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Deleted User	Jun 19 2012, 08:19 PM Post #15
Deleted User	That woman needs to be charged with something. I don't believe the accuser was a 'little white girl'. I think she is also black. I could be wrong though.
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mopotter	Jun 19 2012, 08:20 PM Post #16
Guru Posts: 5,517 Group: Character Member #87 Joined: December 30, 2010 Gender Female Favorite Character Revan and Carth - Shepard and Kaidan, Sky and My friend Garrus	Raphael diSanto Jun 19 2012, 08:03 PM The_Numerator Jun 19 2012, 07:33 PM "Rape accusation" Heart sinks. Mind lost in a fog. Surrender, only hope. Juries don't like accused rapists. Especially non-white ones. Not that I specifically want to play the color card, but it's always going to be a factor. He's a big black football player. She's a little white girl victim. It's gonna look bad for him, evidence or no evidence. And mo, perhaps he wrongly 'confessed' to his parents, too, so for the last 5 years they also thought he did it. Agree, except she was also black, at least I'm assuming the picture is her. It's really sad. He's also a better person than I would be. I'd be at least taking her and her mom, if she's still alive, to court.
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Premier Bromanov	Jun 19 2012, 08:31 PM Post #17
Posts: 6,483 Group: Character Member #25 Joined: November 12, 2010 Gender Male Favorite Character Samara Preferred Love Interest Jack	Shiny Jun 19 2012, 08:19 PM That woman needs to be charged with something. I don't believe the accuser was a 'little white girl'. I think she is also black. I could be wrong though. Yes, she's black, too.
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Raphael diSanto	Jun 19 2012, 08:34 PM Post #18
Dangerously Brilliant Posts: 9,239 Group: Raph Member #197 Joined: April 19, 2011 Gender Male	Oh, she's black too? My bad. Either way .. I don't think he would have been convicted if it had gone to trial - But I can see why -he- was scared that he might have been. And yeah, she needs to be charged with something. For sure.
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Ryzaki	Jun 19 2012, 08:34 PM Post #19
Yaoi Fangirl Posts: 8,259 Group: Ryzaki Member #63 Joined: December 13, 2010 Gender Female Favorite Character Garrus, Wrex, Samara, Fenris, Alistair, Sten, my PCs (yes I'm serious :P)	Honestly people need to be charged for false allegations. At least so there's some consequences to doing that. Ruining someone's life and getting off with it scott free doesn't sit well with me. Edited by Ryzaki, Jun 19 2012, 08:34 PM.
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Sia	Jun 19 2012, 08:37 PM Post #20
The General Posts: 25,906 Group: Sia Member #15 Joined: November 10, 2010 Gender Female Favorite Character Shepard, Hawke, The Warden	Not only does it ruin an innocent person's life, but it makes the next rape conviction that much harder to get, no matter how guilty that person is.
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