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Reasons I ship CloTi
Topic Started: Feb 12 2015, 06:13 PM (1,223 Views)
FinalHeaven
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Here you can discuss why you ship CloTi!! :dance:
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I ship CloTi because they have a history. They have an unspoken, growing, romantic love for one another that just cannot be ignored. They have an genuine connection. That and the whole best/childhood friends falling in love thing always gets to me. I love that stuff lol.

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Feb 13 2015, 01:35 PM
I ship CloTi because they have a history. They have an unspoken, growing, romantic love for one another that just cannot be ignored. They have an genuine connection. That and the whole best/childhood friends falling in love thing always gets to me. I love that stuff lol.

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100% I saw someone say one time that CloTi isn't romantic, I was like "Wut?" :wat: I think the Japanese go about romance differently than Westerners.

I think the best kind of relationships start out when you are friends first because you get to know them and create a unique connection with them.


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I ship Cloti for a multitude of reasons, I really love childhood pairings. Friends that have history and have been there for one another literally their whole lives... really make me happy and gushy. uwu I also love the sweet promise under the stars and how the shooting star bit happened... and how much they do for one another because they care so much.

It's just all around sweet and they've been through good and bad together and have come out on top. they're really the best ;v;
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I just like their indefinite raw dedication and passion for each other through thick and thin. There are the cliche romantic moments ie) making the promise, saving the girl from mad villains and falling buildings, and bonding on an extraordinary soul level (care to take a dip in the Lifestream anyone?) but it's more like their underlying tender care for each other that never ceased that took me away.

While being realistic that it's fiction I'm still SO JELLY because who of us wouldn't want a Cloud or Tifa to have our backs literally and emotionally when we fall just apart and the world sees us as 'weak' or a failed cause.
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Wow, I don't even know where to begin about this two. They're my inspiration that upon writing stories, I always wish I could create a romance so deep and classy like theirs. I even wished I could have a relationship like theirs. Lol

I guess I'll start from their history. First of all, aside from being a fan of a love that grows from childhood friends, it is the fact that it was actually pretty one-sided (for both). It is hinted that they've been holding favor to one another for years, but none of them know! And they weren't even that close, despite growing together in the same village. So, imagine when they've finally confessed to each other the night under the highwind (or when they were in the lifestream). There must be an overflowing wave of happiness between them, after all those years, and separation, and hardships, they found out the person they love feels the same. It's almost like a fairy-tale, with the childhood promise, and that almost everybody would have changed and forgotten their childhood feelings. But theirs remain for years. I mean, one of the reasons Cloud holds to the promise of protecting Tifa, despite failing to get into SOLDIER, despite having fulfilled that promise once, must be because he actually cares for Tifa and really wants to protect her. That maybe, she asked for a promise from the beginning wasn't necessary. He'd come and save her anyway, just like when he followed her to Mt. Nibel.
Overall, I'm deeply touched with the idea of growing up together, albeit not close, shy love that involves watching from afar (Cloud, in this case), someone who isn't close cares more than those who are close, and when they have a certain closeness, it is only to find that the other is leaving far. And Tifa asked Cloud to promise, is like saying, "We finally get close, but you're leaving. Promise me you'll come back so we can get to know each other more."

Their relationship is indeed serendipitious, but not all rainbows and butterflies. I love serendipity stuffs when it also has its ups and downs, and this pairing portrays that perfectly. As for the serendipity part, it's those pleasant coincidences when Cloud was sent to Nibelheim, when he's found at the train station by Tifa after YEARS in Midgar, when neither knew where the other was. Cloud's whereabouts, Tifa didn't know. He could be anywhere, he could be far from Midgar when Zack died. Tifa also could be anywhere, she could've been saved by Zangan not to Midgar, but to Kalm, who knows. Here's what I believe, Tifa actually tried to find Cloud by asking someone from Shinra or probably even went to Shinra HQ. I mean, 5 years in a city where your childhood friend had gone to, wouldn't you try to find him? But as we all know, they'd probably say they don't know Cloud, and there's also a possibility that she had gotten into trouble for asking a once escaping experiment-subject. Then she found him at the train station. What are the odds? With the possibility of the two could be anywhere, adding the fact that they'd lost contact and that they'd never been that close, adding 7 years to the equation (since Tifa didn't know Cloud was present during Nibelheim Incident), we can all agree that their meeting was miraculous. Cloud remained alive after all the mako poisoning was also miraculous, I think.

The thing about them scarred, serious, and quiet unlike Zerith who are cheerful is also interesting. Many say CloTi is boring, both are serious and have a tendency to brood over their sins. But they share a similar history, Tifa's the only part from Cloud's past he can hold on to that will always be a reminder of their hometown, families, friends, and memories, and vice versa. They are realistic, because I know many couples, where the guy is serious, and the girl is cheerful, trying to complete one another, but they often end up worse. The reason being, one of them doesn't understand the nature of the other, and eventually their personality clashed at some point. And I know many couples, where the two are very similar, almost like siblings, and boring, can maintain a stable relationship. Theirs aren't a kissy, cuddly, PDA relationship, but stable, like CloTi. Because, it is hard to work out when two people started out different, it may be fun in the beginning, but it's hard for long-term. It's much easier with someone whom you know for years and has not much differences. In case of CloTi, they don't complete one another in a way Tifa being cheerful, or Cloud being one. In their case ... Both are insecure, yet they always try to support each other, they don't put their feelings first. Like Tifa, she may have whined Cloud leaving her with two kids, but she didn't. Yes, she scolded him in the end, but that's because enough is enough, because Tifa knows Cloud acts that way for her and the children's sake, when all they wanted is for Cloud to open up to them and let them help. But Cloud is sooooo considerate, he accidentally hurt them. He didn't want to burden Tifa and children, he didn't want them to see him suffer and in pathetic condition like the geostigma-zombie-guy in the beginning of the movie, so he left. They care deeply for each other so much that they forgot to value their own selves, making the other hurt because the other feels like he/she wasn't enough. Tifa cares about Cloud so much, making Cloud think she's done too much while he's incapable of helping. Cloud cares about Tifa so much, he left thinking he's a burden, causing her to feel that she's not enough as a help. May that paradox continue (or not). (I'm not saying a Clerith kind of relationship can't be worked out either, it can also be beautiful, I'm saying it's stupid when people say Cloud isn't happy with Tifa and their relationship is miserable, when the same thing can happen if Aerith was alive and end up with Cloud. It's not the girls' fault. In fact, it's because both cared deeply. Dare I say, that if Tifa died and Aerith lived, roles swapped, there's a BIG chance Cloud would still feel guilty, contracted Geostigma, and maybe ran off somewhere, NOT because he hated living with Aerith. So it's stupid saying Cloud isn't happy with Tifa. Yea, they argued like married couples--doesn't change the fact he actually feels at peace and happy living like a family with Tifa. Rightt??)

And sorry for the anecdotal prove, but I've been through so much relationship, where I used to care deeply, creating such paradox, until the other grew tired of it. But it can't be helped, because we didn't have a history worth saving. This is why I'm passionate about CloTi, they may crumble like what I've experienced, but they don't. They, in fact, continued living together, and I'd like to believe for ever (because, no, I don't think one of them would have the heart to find another love and leave the other with two kids. Just, no.)
They also have a history worth protecting. So that's that.

I can babble all night long for this, but in case tl;dr :
- despite being childhood friends, they weren't close, yet they had always favored one another. (Obviously, Tifa asked him to promise because she believed in his potential)
- maybe their love started out as puppy-love with childish, selfish wishes. One selfishly wishing to be great and powerful so he'd be noticed, one selfishly wishing to have a knight in shining armor. But they grew, they MATURED. One learned that power and strength weren't everything, so is popularity. The other learned that selfishly waiting to be a damsel in distress is useless, too, why not fight alongside him?
They had their dreams crushed, but the value remained. The promises kept. He held the value of SOLDIER (as Zack pointed out, it's a matter of what's in your heart), and she patiently waited for him although while waiting, she can protect herself. Because what men wouldn't be happy to be a hero for a girl?
- their love is fairytale like with promises and childhood feelings that remain for years. But it's not an unrealistic fairytale, in fact it's a dark one, with hardships and real problems, and it's serendipitious, as in fated.
- they are classy and subtle. They are the only couple that I don't mind never seeing kissing, hugging, or anything beyond. While watching other movies/animes/games/anything, I always wish for the couple to kiss or hug or sth, they are the only couple that can stay romantic and deep without all that. Small hints like bedroom scene, risque line, and TINY details like a twitch of lips/or stare (like in AC) are more than enough. That said, I don't mind if someday SE make them kiss and stuffs.

Phew, sorry for the reaally long post. Because I've never actually stated my opinion about these two for YEARS. But finally decided to. :3
Edited by Vynele, Feb 14 2015, 07:40 AM.
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Feb 14 2015, 07:22 AM


Phew, sorry for the reaally long post. Because I've never actually stated my opinion about these two for YEARS. But finally decided to. :3
I'm so happy you finally spoke your feelings about Cloti! It's the same for me... I kept it in for a long time until I finally joined the fandom. I agree w/ everything you said btw! Cloti isn't boring for me at all and in fact very sweet and cute while also being mature and realistic (neither of those which makes the ship less interesting but actually more interesting) :3
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Feb 17 2015, 02:53 AM
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Feb 14 2015, 07:22 AM


Phew, sorry for the reaally long post. Because I've never actually stated my opinion about these two for YEARS. But finally decided to. :3
I'm so happy you finally spoke your feelings about Cloti! It's the same for me... I kept it in for a long time until I finally joined the fandom. I agree w/ everything you said btw! Cloti isn't boring for me at all and in fact very sweet and cute while also being mature and realistic (neither of those which makes the ship less interesting but actually more interesting) :3
Ahahaha indeed they are sweet and far from boring, like how I love the small details in the movie regarding those two. For example Cloud's smile to Tifa when he flew towards Bahamut xDD
I even found out when he woke up in the children's room and turned to Tifa, I think he looked relieved or something. But meh, that could be just me xP
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Feb 17 2015, 11:49 AM
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Feb 17 2015, 02:53 AM
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Feb 14 2015, 07:22 AM


Phew, sorry for the reaally long post. Because I've never actually stated my opinion about these two for YEARS. But finally decided to. :3
I'm so happy you finally spoke your feelings about Cloti! It's the same for me... I kept it in for a long time until I finally joined the fandom. I agree w/ everything you said btw! Cloti isn't boring for me at all and in fact very sweet and cute while also being mature and realistic (neither of those which makes the ship less interesting but actually more interesting) :3
Ahahaha indeed they are sweet and far from boring, like how I love the small details in the movie regarding those two. For example Cloud's smile to Tifa when he flew towards Bahamut xDD
I even found out when he woke up in the children's room and turned to Tifa, I think he looked relieved or something. But meh, that could be just me xP
I always used to worry that "it's just me" too but a lot of work goes into animating those scenes and I think every little flutter is important! In my mind tho... when Cloud got up to see Tifa on the bed he was going closer maybe to check up on her >///<

Oh and I recently realized in the scene where he finds her in the church he's holding her with both arms... :lovestruck:

I never knew it was such an intimate embrace! Gosh... I'm blushing.... :$
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@strifeheart : So true! They put a lot of work creating this, I'm sure. So every little detail must have been donw as intended. And yeah, I was talking about that particular scene as well. When he got up to see Tifa on the bed, I do believe he's checking on her. And right then, even if only for a split second, I think there's a look/slight move/sigh/idk that indicates his relief just before Reno called him and his 'relieved' expression changed into a surprised one. I mean, he found Tifa all bruised and covered with dirt, but when he woke up she's clean and all, and resting on the bed, so I guess he's relieved in a way? But still he waits for her until she wakes up (you know, standing by the window x'D)
Ah lately I always squeal when there's a scene consisting these two.

Also... REALLY?? BOTH ARMS??? Gotta check that right away!*squee*
Edited by Vynele, Feb 18 2015, 10:52 PM.
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