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| Does Cloti mean anything for you in real life? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 29 2015, 06:18 AM (423 Views) | |
| Terra-byte | Apr 29 2015, 06:18 AM Post #1 |
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Sentimental gush. Does Cloti hold some sort of significance or meaning to you in real life? For inst. some cleriths like their ship because they lost a gf or close friend and identify with clouds loss after aerith died, so relate their own personal experience to the ship. I feel like we wouldn't be having debates about cloti if it didn't resonate with us personally somehow. |
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| Sesiyrus | May 1 2015, 07:31 PM Post #11 |
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I relate my personal relationship with Cloti a lot, yeah. Although I've liked the ship as a ship before I was even in that relationship. Mostly because he was always doing things to appear tough and get my attention and I never noticed it was for me. We grew up as childhood friends/like brothers until we got older and things changed between us. It also took us awhile to get together, even after we were somewhat aware of how the other felt, and there was tensions and obstacles to overcome, and other people who attempted to be in that place in our lives, but it never worked out and part of the reason was because of still being hung up on the other person. Now that we've been together we've been together for years, so I can see a lot of my own romantic relationship in Cloti and in other ships, which is what makes part of shipping them so personal! |
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| Terra-byte | May 4 2015, 04:39 AM Post #12 |
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^daw that's so gorgeous. When did you realize it had a little something more than friendship? Yeah I like how the Cloti love just kinda crept upon them and grew from a childish crush into something so huge and serious. It's like gaining weight for ages and being in denial about it. |
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| strifehart | May 5 2015, 07:59 PM Post #13 |
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Hahaha omg idk why but that analogy made me laugh |
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| Sesiyrus | May 9 2015, 06:58 PM Post #14 |
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Wellll it's more complicated for us getting together since we are both men and all the stigma between friends, and family, and school that would have created. He apparently had deep feelings for me since Childhood, and I've always felt something for him that I never felt for anyone else, but I just thought it was because I've always had him I couldn't really admit it to myself for a lot of personal reasons. I felt more secure, and comfortable and at peace with him, I never really thought about how other people couldn't make me feel the way he did until he told me he had feelings for me- although, things got really messy there for awhile because I had a really hard time processing the situation. I think I was around 15 when he admitted his feelings for me and we got together the following year after. We've had hard times and needed to give each other space and work through things and now we're much stronger for it. Things WERE getting really complicated and flirty between us before he admitted anything, but I was so light-hearted about that kind of thing, I always took it as a joke, but looking back on it, we'd been in love for a very long time. |
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| Cloud_and_Tifa | May 9 2015, 10:25 PM Post #15 |
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@Sesiiyrus, now that's the kind of relationship I want! Yeah, couples going through tough times and whatnot but doing it together and wanting to stay with each other after everything; that's what I think is the ideal type of love. Your story is so sweet, senpai I wish you the best in your relationship!
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| Stella | Feb 26 2016, 01:54 PM Post #16 |
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I have to admit that Aerith and Clouds relationship seems more natural and realistic. Love can be unexpected and that its okay to have your heart broken if your first relationship isnt working out. It's a part of reality. Whereas with Tifa, it's kinda unrealistic. Though I support Cloti all the way. I myself can admit that Cloti is a little cliche; "childhood friend". I think majority of Tifa fans just want this type of love because it's the perfect fantasy. |
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| queenie | Feb 26 2016, 02:31 PM Post #17 |
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the name's Shera, as in Cid's wife
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@stella Super Tifa lover here and i kind of agree that the 'childhood friend' part is kind of cliche, but i wouldn't say people like cloti just because it's some perfect fantasy. Cloti might have started like a perfect fantasy - childhood friends, with boy crushing over popular girl, but it didn't go 100% perfect. It wasn't like your spontaneous disney/hollywood romance - that's clerith. Cloti took time for it to grow. For me, Clerith is the perfect fantasy and exactly why I love it too lol. I would want to be reunited with someone who fell from the roof of my house (or any other situations like this! So far my fantasy would be: meeting my soulmate in a cafe :p). I would want to find someone i have instant chemistry with despite just a few days of meeting one another. I would want to find someone i can flirt with without much trouble despite knowing so little of one another. The spontaneous romance is exciting tbh. But realistically speaking, this hardly happens. Maybe easier for much easy-going people but not for people that is a little more introvert like me. Clerith as 'healing' is realistic though but somehow clerith shippers hardly talk about this dimension so... (sorry i'm talking about my Clerith love here, I'm just addressing Stella's points) Going back to the thread now, for me, cloti means a lot to me not because it started from a cliche childhood friends situation. It's because i want someone who understands me so well, just the way Cloud and Tifa understand each other. I want someone I can argue with but still find a common ground in the end (because some arguments ended up tearing people apart forever because of incompatibility and i fear that so much). I want someone who reminds me of 'home', just like Cloud is with Tifa and vice versa. I think, most people need all of these in reality to build a healthy relationship. Ooooh i just went cheesy but yeah Edited by queenie, Feb 26 2016, 02:33 PM.
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| Sesiyrus | Feb 26 2016, 04:29 PM Post #18 |
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Not even remotely true, I've been with my childhood friend for years, it's no fantasy, nor cliche or stereotypical! Honestly I find contrived fast paced romances completely and utterly unrealistic and unbelievable. There are things such as infautation, obsession, and lust but with your long time friend you can know what you have is truly pure. Thats my own experience with love, at least. |
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| I_Am_Justice | Feb 26 2016, 06:36 PM Post #19 |
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How many times have you ever seen childhood friends turned lovers? It's much less used in media than love at first sight. As for Cloud and Aerith, I don't find it realistic at all, since they knew each other for only two weeks at most and fell in love in that time when Cloud wasn't even himself and Aerith was pining over Zack? Childhood friends is not something used that often in romances. I feel it is more realistic to fall in love with someone who has been with you your entire life than it is to fall in love with someone you barely knew for two weeks and then prefer that short brief moment over your friend who has been by your side for a long time. Love is unexpected, but it is also a very complicated emotion. Many mistake infatuation for love, and mistake lust for love. There are also different types of love, such as being in love with someone romantically, and just loving someone as a person. There is also different degrees. Cloud and Tifa's relationship is ideal. The reason is because even when you remove the romantic love they share, their bond is still their. They are not based off of this shallow romantic love but their love stems from deep feelings of trust, respect, and friendship. Cloud and Tifa are more like...ideal but realistic. It IS possible to have the type of relationship Cloud and Tifa have if everyone would get this idea out of their head about romantic love and romanticized ideas of what being in love means. |
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| Terra-byte | Feb 26 2016, 06:56 PM Post #20 |
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Sort of getting the impression that people feel like childhood friend and passionate romance are mutually exclusive, especially when it comes to cloti vs clerith. What's your take on that Sesi? In the fiction I personally don't see how Cloud's behavior was any less passionate or romantic with Tifa, he still rescues her like a shining knight any time she's in a pinch and because he really wants to. He goes out of his way to make her happy. He flirts with Tifa even more than she flirts with him. A big chunk of his self validation comes from Tifa's positive impression of him. I believe his passionate lust phase came very early, like around the age when he saw Tifa in her cowgirl outfit, and that we tend to forget about it. I agree with Stella's sentiment about first love, wouldn't it be so nice if things ended up working perfectly with your first flame, even your second or third one. For most in reality they are said to date on average 12-15 people before they find one to really click with. |
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