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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 4 2007, 06:12 PM (565 Views) | |
| Deleted User | Jun 4 2007, 06:12 PM Post #1 |
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I was just chatting with one of the members on the forum, regarding the forum. And well the subject of how good the forum use to be came up. And well, he did make a very appealing point. Now days it's pointless registering a meta with powers when you can buy products that skips you a few levels (The Byrne, Siloam, Frostbite, and other major FZI products; ADTI Shock foam; X-gen "Ripper"... I agree with him completely, Whats really the point on earning powers when you can get them for just a *small fee* on the market? I also noticed that there is a lot of talk about this not being a role-play forum but a *Blur:“Collaborative Story Board”* (Quoted from here) But what does it much differ from role-playing? It seems like a lot of people and especially the system are reliant on the market which sells a 'high class weapons'. One good role-play example of how the system and people are relying on the market instead of other characters to save them is the perfect day topic. As I recall right, Ulysses took a Frostbite from somewhere and saved the day. He was the only one who did, no one else helped. Sure he did chat with a few of his buddy to work out a plan, once. I'm not saying that this is a bad thing, nor am I saying that this a good thing. I think it's cool for a single character to save the day. And I've noticed that a lot of 'resource characters' rely on the market. I'm trying to present to you'll that the system is so reliant on what is on the market, not on other characters. I really don't think that the word “collaborative story board” is the right title... The proper title for the forum is “survival-the-fittest story board” (Other topics that were changed by the use of market products are... Bring It; The blood of the morning and quite a few of the hood role-play topics. I could really say that more then 70% of all combat topics have used the market's products.) Now getting back to “Whats really the point on earning powers when you can get them for just a *small fee* on the market?” A thing I've noticed is that if you know the resource system well enough you can use it to your character's benefit through the use of the market. Since we chatted about Ulysses getting a Frostbite in the perfect day topic (and no I'm not complaining about your character, it was a good idea for using the frostbite) I'm trying to make it very clear that the market system effects to much of the system, and that it is generally to much reliable. Users like Sunbeam, Centurion and Rattler seem to comprehend the principle of using the resource around them, and the market on the forum is probably one of there most reliant resources (I'm not trying to make it look like I'm complaining... I'm just revealing my point of views) I think the real plausible secret to success in combat chapters is the use of your surroundings. The market also gives characters an advantage on the resource system, what does it matter if you get a high class macho sumo gun that takes up 1 Rpoint and then start toasting hundreds of mutated bugs? I'm not saying that the market system that Blur has bestowed on the forum is a bad system, I think the forum needs it. I just think that there comes a time when things should be restarted, a time when all things should be made younger. I have chatted with a number of the members on the forum, and I get the impression that they liked the forum better when it started. When all characters did not poses reputations, when the city did not understand that they needed heroes to save them from a great disaster, when all things were just beginning. The climax of drama and action begins when things are younger and not old and rusty, correct? Thus I propose for the sake of enjoyment, entertainment, and pleasure that we give birth to Colossal II! Many of you'll newer players may not apprehend what it was like when things were new. But everybody likes new things! So why not make the forum new? and perhaps develop your character to a more popular one? Many of y'all might be thinking that you'll got plans, and thus y'all don't want to do it because it'll mess up all your plans you put in planning a character. I understand what its like when your plans are messed up by some power character, thats why I don't propose we do it now. I propose that we wait one Colossal week, and thus get a good fresh start for Colossal II. Anybody up for a new episode in Colossal? |
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| Blur | Jun 4 2007, 06:23 PM Post #2 |
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Not that we're going to necessarily do this or anything, but how many of you actually WANT a reboot? Anybody other than Fledge? |
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| Centurion | Jun 4 2007, 06:32 PM Post #3 |
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I am afraid I just can't see the point of a brand new forum. There is no longterm solvency at all in your solution. The problem of the market would be the exact same. Eventually weapons and gear allowing non-meta's to counter meta's would return by reason of demand. The popularity and high-levels would return as well. There will always be characters who dominate simply by nature of the way their characters are played or the situations they choose to place thier characters in. And no I am afraid I have to disagree about fresh and new being more interesting and better. It takes time to develop characters and storylines. A clean slate would mean literally months of time to reach a point where real depth and drama occurs. Ben |
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| Deleted User | Jun 4 2007, 06:34 PM Post #4 |
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To put it nicely...hmm, trying to think of a way to put it nicely...let's just say that to my mind, that idea makes no sense. At all. |
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| Deleted User | Jun 4 2007, 07:37 PM Post #5 |
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I see where you're coming from, Fledge. Seriously, if you can become entirely invulnerable with only three or so gadget points, there's not a point of having somebody who has super powers. The whole market/gadget thing got a little bit too powerful in some areas. As for the restart of the forum, I don't think I can agree with you there. However, I think a restart or revamp of the current gadget/market might be an ok idea? Good post, Fledge. |
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| Deleted User | Jun 4 2007, 07:54 PM Post #6 |
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Not that my newbie voice has a whole lot of say in the matter... but personaly... I like the forum the way it is. Now I may be new here, but I am in no way new to rp, storywriting, forums, etc. I was an admin at one time on a pirates theamed board. And because of our character getting "old" (i.e. aging, because our adventures happened years apart at a time) we were constantly re starting. Using the same characters of course, but going back and rewriting what happened to them. Now in some cases this worked, but on a whole it turned disasturous. My character in the first re start somehow aquired a daughter, in the second re start she somehow aquired a lover. And the daughter dissapeared... but I wanted to keep her. But I couldn't because we started over... ages got mixed up, histories changed, and no one could keep track of their character stories. All in all the site became one big mess... and guess where it is now? Sent to Davey Jones Locker. (Seriously, "Will" and I "commited" it to depths). Please I would ask that a re start NOT be done. It will be too confusing, take too much time, and come on!! I just started here! I DO NOT want to have to start again. I know for the old timers you may be getting bored with your characters, or thinking they are too powerful too quick or whatever... but then my suggestion would be to retire old characters and start fresh yourself. Don't make the rest of us start over because you are bored. Thats my two cents. |
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| Sunbeam | Jun 4 2007, 08:01 PM Post #7 |
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Here here, Treva. |
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| Deleted User | Jun 4 2007, 08:17 PM Post #8 |
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That's 'hear hear' if I'm not mistaken. :) But, I understand what you're saying, Treva. Is there any way, however, that we could either strengthen the actual super abilities (so that they actually are... super?) or weaken the gadget possibilities lightly? |
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| Deleted User | Jun 4 2007, 08:19 PM Post #9 |
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If I remember right, it has recently become more costly to duplicate powers with either gadgets or engineering, in response to this very issue. |
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| Blur | Jun 4 2007, 08:22 PM Post #10 |
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Correct. It is now more difficult to get power replicating devices, as well as make them. That is a difference that you will all notice over time. And there are decided advantages to having your own powers. Long-term it is a better idea. |
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| Deleted User | Jun 4 2007, 08:25 PM Post #11 |
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Ah... I see. I appreciate your respectful and well thought-through post suggesting this, Fledge. Whether or not it is supported, I thank you for your suggestion in hopefully bettering the forum. :) It seems most of us are ok with how it is right now... |
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| Blur | Jun 4 2007, 08:46 PM Post #12 |
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Yes, thank you, Fledge. I appreciate as much player input as possible. :) For the time being there will be no reboots on the forum. Our player base is fairly active and even new characters seem to be jumping in and adapting pretty well. |
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| Deleted User | Jun 4 2007, 08:53 PM Post #13 |
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*Wanle Tenuyala hugs all her characters* Noo you can't take them! seriously though, I'd rather not start anything over. If y'all really want something an alternate demension or something might work even though it might get confusing. I think we should just stick with the Colossal we have. "And no I am afraid I have to disagree about fresh and new being more interesting and better. It takes time to develop characters and storylines. A clean slate would mean literally months of time to reach a point where real depth and drama occurs." -Centurion I totally agree. |
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| Deleted User | Aug 8 2008, 11:29 AM Post #14 |
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*Fledge scratches his head, How about because of the departure of red rock city? And because simply everyone now thinks it was a good Idea by Blur to reboot it? |
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| Stingray | Aug 8 2008, 01:26 PM Post #15 |
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Considering you are responding to a thread that is over a year old...I'm not sure that response is particularly insightful Fledge. There are alot of different reasons why this reboot works now and one wouldn't have back then, many of them having to do with the personal lives of the creative team behind this forum. As for Redrock City, it had completely different goals and purposes than CH. Different users, different style, different ideas. Stingray |
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