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Before your country can officially take part in the Altverse community, you must first go through the application process. Before you apply, make sure to read the Rules and the official page. In addition, you must provide a link to the main article of the country you plan to be using. Although strongly encouraged but not required, the article should be of decent length that provides sufficient information about the country. Be prepared to make the necessary changes to your country before it can be deemed a part of Altverse. Under no circumstance may you add your nation, claim your nation is part of, or otherwise insert information that may give the impression that your country is in any shape or form connected to Altverse and/or its material until you have been given explicit approval from the community consensus/moderator.

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[center][b]Your Country Name[/b][/center]
[list]
[*][b][url=http://www.conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Your_Country_Name]Link[/url][/b]
[*][b]Real World Countries and Land Claimed[/b]:
[*][b]Why you want to join[/b]:
[*][b]Have you read everything concerning Altverse?[/b]: (Y/N)
[*][b]Do you agree to comply to all rules and policies?[/b]: (Y/N)
[*][b]Other[/b]: Your additional comments here.
[/list]


Example
Kingdom of Sierra

  • Link
  • Real World Countries and Land Claimed: California, Nevada, Arizona, Baja California, Baja California Sur, Sonora, Hawaiian Islands, American Samoa, Easter Island, Kiribati
  • Why you want to join: I really enjoy collaborating with others and I want to have fun.
  • Have you read everything concerning Altverse?: Y
  • Do you agree to comply to all rules and policies?: Y
  • Other: This is just an example but I'd like to point out that you can also provide links to other important pages related to your country to enhance understanding. Links to the government page, flags, or military are great.
Edited by JustinVuong, January 3, 2015, 6:49 pm.
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Zabuza825
April 1, 2015, 6:14 pm
BIPU
April 1, 2015, 5:16 pm
The way Alt Verse is building Europe's last decades of 20th century is quite different from what it was in real world. Revolution in UK and the formation of Kalmar Unión outside NATO has made Europe less influenced by the USA and maybe open to changes or "strange" alliances. In this scenario it is possible that Russia could give Kaliningrad to Germany in echange of support or silence for any other Russian affair. For example, imagine a new Soviet Russia trying to ensure its influence over the Baltic Republics or other Eastern Europe nations. It could be a good moment to see an agreement between Germany and Russia in wich Kaliningrad went to Germany in echange for Germany curb any hint of sanctions and the possibility to maintain a military base in Kaliningrad.
Actually, I was originally thinking that since Poland isn't gaining the Eastern German territories, they'd probably want Kalinigrad, you know with the Poles being expelled from the lands of Poland that the USSR annexed and all they'd kinda need it, meaning that the whole "would Russia return Kalinigrad" discussion irrelevant.

Besides, I'll say this again, if we make it so that Russia has to return the territory, Germany would have to have lost it first, and since we've basically seem to have decided that the expulsion of Germans still happened, that would mean the majority population would now be Russian or something like that.

So, now why would the Russian government transfer a area with ETHNIC RUSSIANS to Germany? No matter what the potential benefits for Russia, I doubt the local people will accept such a thing. Furthermore, the Russian government right now is trying to build up an image for protecting ethnic Russians. They've been doing that since the 2000's. Giving Kalinigrad to Germany would probably damage this image.
The reason being as to why Kaliningrad would be ceded to Germany is that it was a historic German city up until the end of World War II. I am not 100% sure if the Russian populations would be driven out, however I planned that the new imperial government would encourage German immigration back into Konigsberg, as well as recreating the original city. Maybe the Russians living in Konigsberg would gain autonomy by the German government as part of an agreement with the Russians.

Also, just out of curiousity, are there any plans for Russia in Altverse? I would be willing to create a Russia along side my Second German Empire.
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UnitedRepublic02
April 1, 2015, 6:24 pm
Zabuza825
April 1, 2015, 6:14 pm
BIPU
April 1, 2015, 5:16 pm
The way Alt Verse is building Europe's last decades of 20th century is quite different from what it was in real world. Revolution in UK and the formation of Kalmar Unión outside NATO has made Europe less influenced by the USA and maybe open to changes or "strange" alliances. In this scenario it is possible that Russia could give Kaliningrad to Germany in echange of support or silence for any other Russian affair. For example, imagine a new Soviet Russia trying to ensure its influence over the Baltic Republics or other Eastern Europe nations. It could be a good moment to see an agreement between Germany and Russia in wich Kaliningrad went to Germany in echange for Germany curb any hint of sanctions and the possibility to maintain a military base in Kaliningrad.
Actually, I was originally thinking that since Poland isn't gaining the Eastern German territories, they'd probably want Kalinigrad, you know with the Poles being expelled from the lands of Poland that the USSR annexed and all they'd kinda need it, meaning that the whole "would Russia return Kalinigrad" discussion irrelevant.

Besides, I'll say this again, if we make it so that Russia has to return the territory, Germany would have to have lost it first, and since we've basically seem to have decided that the expulsion of Germans still happened, that would mean the majority population would now be Russian or something like that.

So, now why would the Russian government transfer a area with ETHNIC RUSSIANS to Germany? No matter what the potential benefits for Russia, I doubt the local people will accept such a thing. Furthermore, the Russian government right now is trying to build up an image for protecting ethnic Russians. They've been doing that since the 2000's. Giving Kalinigrad to Germany would probably damage this image.
The reason being as to why Kaliningrad would be ceded to Germany is that it was a historic German city up until the end of World War II. I am not 100% sure if the Russian populations would be driven out, however I planned that the new imperial government would encourage German immigration back into Konigsberg, as well as recreating the original city. Maybe the Russians living in Konigsberg would gain autonomy by the German government as part of an agreement with the Russians.

Also, just out of curiousity, are there any plans for Russia in Altverse? I would be willing to create a Russia along side my Second German Empire.
The current plans is that Russia and China will be the two nations leading one of three factions in a Second Cold War, directly opposing the Western nations lead by the US, and socialist states led by Westland and Britannia.

So yeah, unless by some miracle Germany becomes uber-pro-Russian, I don't see such an agreement for the transfer of Kalinigrad to Germany happening.

I would also like to point out that even if there is a remote chance that the Russian population will be driven out, or hell even if theres a remote chance of discrimination against ethnic Russians, the Russian government can't transfer Kalinigrad back to Germany without compromising their image as the protector of ethnic Russians. Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania haven't expelled their ethnic Russians and Russia still bashes them for a huge slew of issues, ranging from percieved resurgence of Nazism in those nations to discrimination against Russians in the area, hell Russia raises a bitchfit if they even propose to move monuments dedicated to Soviet leaders erected there (monuments that the Estonians, Latvians, and Lithuanians see as symbols of Russia's domination over the baltic, but Russians including those in the Baltic States see as a source of pride).

Besides, theres still the issue - if Poland doesn't gain more of East Prussia, they might not have room for all of those Poles being expelled from the Polish territories annexed by Russia after WW2. This is why I initially proposed changing the post-WW2 agreement on East Prussia to be where it goes to Poland (except Memel, which goes to Lithuania as it did IRL), but people seem to have forgotten that.
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UnitedRepublic02
April 1, 2015, 6:24 pm


Also, just out of curiousity, are there any plans for Russia in Altverse? I would be willing to create a Russia along side my Second German Empire.
I have a proposal for Russia that I think could be interesting for the "Second Cold War" scenario. I have been working in a Soviet Russia after the collapse of Soviet Unión for other Project and I think it can be played in Alt Verse. The nation is not fully developed but the basic idea and recent history could be easily adapted to Alt Verse with some territorial changes. The idea of this new Soviet Russia is characterized by maintaining a mix of hard line on the political and flexibility in the economic and social matters, with an approach to the Russian Orthodox Church.

I would like to develop this nation because I think there wont be interferences with my current nation Kalmar Union because there will be importan differences between the two nations that will make difficult to have very warm relations.

Have a look: Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic
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BIPU
April 2, 2015, 9:48 am
UnitedRepublic02
April 1, 2015, 6:24 pm


Also, just out of curiousity, are there any plans for Russia in Altverse? I would be willing to create a Russia along side my Second German Empire.
I have a proposal for Russia that I think could be interesting for the "Second Cold War" scenario. I have been working in a Soviet Russia after the collapse of Soviet Unión for other Project and I think it can be played in Alt Verse. The nation is not fully developed but the basic idea and recent history could be easily adapted to Alt Verse with some territorial changes. The idea of this new Soviet Russia is characterized by maintaining a mix of hard line on the political and flexibility in the economic and social matters, with an approach to the Russian Orthodox Church.

I would like to develop this nation because I think there wont be interferences with my current nation Kalmar Union because there will be importan differences between the two nations that will make difficult to have very warm relations.

Have a look: Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic
The only criticism I would have of bringing the RFSSR into Altverse is that the collapse of the Eastern Bloc should happen as it did in real life. Russia could easily still be Soviet (although it likely would have slightly friendlier relations with the west) but the other regimes should fall.

Also having Putin as General Secretary of the CPSU would be nice. Who doesn't love Putin? :P
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Zabuza825

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April 2, 2015, 11:26 am
BIPU
April 2, 2015, 9:48 am
UnitedRepublic02
April 1, 2015, 6:24 pm


Also, just out of curiousity, are there any plans for Russia in Altverse? I would be willing to create a Russia along side my Second German Empire.
I have a proposal for Russia that I think could be interesting for the "Second Cold War" scenario. I have been working in a Soviet Russia after the collapse of Soviet Unión for other Project and I think it can be played in Alt Verse. The nation is not fully developed but the basic idea and recent history could be easily adapted to Alt Verse with some territorial changes. The idea of this new Soviet Russia is characterized by maintaining a mix of hard line on the political and flexibility in the economic and social matters, with an approach to the Russian Orthodox Church.

I would like to develop this nation because I think there wont be interferences with my current nation Kalmar Union because there will be importan differences between the two nations that will make difficult to have very warm relations.

Have a look: Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic
The only criticism I would have of bringing the RFSSR into Altverse is that the collapse of the Eastern Bloc should happen as it did in real life. Russia could easily still be Soviet (although it likely would have slightly friendlier relations with the west) but the other regimes should fall.

Also having Putin as General Secretary of the CPSU would be nice. Who doesn't love Putin? :P
While this is an interesting proposition, it also makes something that I want to point out happen.

Why would Russia, which is staunchly against what they percieve as fascism (never mind whether or not it actually is fascist) ally with nations like the Mexican Social Republic, which is openly fascist? If Russia is still communist this goes even more so because most communists are against fascism.

It's something I've been asking for a while now. I'm not saying it's impossible, just saying that we need some clarification on this front.
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I've already created a page for the Second German Empire, so I'm just waiting for a "yay" or "nay" from the mods for inclusion into Altverse.

I'd really like to be a part of this.

P.S. It would be interesting to see a fascist Russia as Putin seems more like a fascist than a communist.
Edited by UnitedRepublic02, April 2, 2015, 5:55 pm.
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UnitedRepublic02
April 2, 2015, 5:47 pm
I've already created a page for the Second German Empire, so I'm just waiting for a "yay" or "nay" from the mods for inclusion into Altverse.

I'd really like to be a part of this.

P.S. It would be interesting to see a fascist Russia as Putin seems more like a fascist than a communist.
I tentatively support your inclusion into Altverse (we need a player-controlled Germany!) but will await to see if the other members are satisfied with your proposals.
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United Republic of the Congo

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  • Real World Countries and Land Claimed: All of the Democratic Republic of the Congo & most of the Republic of the Congo, EXCEPT the departments of Sangha and Cuvette-Ouest
  • Why you want to join: It sounds really interesting and I enjoy nation-building and politicking.
  • Have you read everything concerning Altverse?: Y
  • Do you agree to comply to all rules and policies?: Y
  • Other: None.
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April 2, 2015, 8:12 pm
United Republic of the Congo

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  • Real World Countries and Land Claimed: All of the Democratic Republic of the Congo & most of the Republic of the Congo, EXCEPT the departments of Sangha and Cuvette-Ouest
  • Why you want to join: It sounds really interesting and I enjoy nation-building and politicking.
  • Have you read everything concerning Altverse?: Y
  • Do you agree to comply to all rules and policies?: Y
  • Other: None.
Seems good although I'll wait for the other people's responses. Looks like someone can take over Congo for you Dog of War :)
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http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/India
Any problems with this one. And I really couldnt understand what DOW was trying to say about the government.

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