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Before your country can officially take part in the Altverse community, you must first go through the application process. Before you apply, make sure to read the Rules and the official page. In addition, you must provide a link to the main article of the country you plan to be using. Although strongly encouraged but not required, the article should be of decent length that provides sufficient information about the country. Be prepared to make the necessary changes to your country before it can be deemed a part of Altverse. Under no circumstance may you add your nation, claim your nation is part of, or otherwise insert information that may give the impression that your country is in any shape or form connected to Altverse and/or its material until you have been given explicit approval from the community consensus/moderator.

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[center][b]Your Country Name[/b][/center]
[list]
[*][b][url=http://www.conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Your_Country_Name]Link[/url][/b]
[*][b]Real World Countries and Land Claimed[/b]:
[*][b]Why you want to join[/b]:
[*][b]Have you read everything concerning Altverse?[/b]: (Y/N)
[*][b]Do you agree to comply to all rules and policies?[/b]: (Y/N)
[*][b]Other[/b]: Your additional comments here.
[/list]


Example
Kingdom of Sierra

  • Link
  • Real World Countries and Land Claimed: California, Nevada, Arizona, Baja California, Baja California Sur, Sonora, Hawaiian Islands, American Samoa, Easter Island, Kiribati
  • Why you want to join: I really enjoy collaborating with others and I want to have fun.
  • Have you read everything concerning Altverse?: Y
  • Do you agree to comply to all rules and policies?: Y
  • Other: This is just an example but I'd like to point out that you can also provide links to other important pages related to your country to enhance understanding. Links to the government page, flags, or military are great.
Edited by JustinVuong, January 3, 2015, 6:49 pm.
| Kingdom of Sierra (main) | Mexican Social Republic | Great Korean Empire | Republic of Vietnam |
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Russia (Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic)

  • Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic
  • Real World Countries and Land Claimed: Russia (including Kaliningrad and Crimea).
  • Why you want to join: An earth based Project as Alt Verse cant be played without Russia.
  • Have you read everything concerning Altverse?: Y
  • Do you agree to comply to all rules and policies?: Y
  • Other: We have to talk about some points:
    **Kaliningrad.We have to decide which nation is in control of Kaliningrad. Kaliningrad is a core part of Russia now and I see very difficult to explain how it could be transferred to Germany. The only way I can imagine is a kind of pact (similar to Ribbentrop-Molotov pact) in wich Russia and Germany negotiate how to share control over Eastern Europe. Kaliningrad could be the Price to pay for the silence of Germany when Russia spreads its regime over the Baltic Republics, Bielorussia, Ukrania and some other Eastern nations.
    **Eastern bloc. In a Europe not being a colony of USA (what it is in RL) and with Germany focused on its Empire more than other things, the reality is that it wont be difficult for a powerful Russia to recover political control (+-) over most of the former Eastern bloc.
    **Danguk. We have to explain why Danguk is an independent nation. I have benn Reading the wiki but there is no reference of how they could get independence. I see no problema to write a history to tell that they got independene supported by foreign nations during the "chaos" years after the collapse of Soviet Union.



About the posible friendship with Mexico, I see no way to be friends.... but economy and common enemies could mad possible some approach.
Si vis pacen, para bellum.
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Alexander
April 2, 2015, 8:12 pm
United Republic of the Congo

  • Link
  • Real World Countries and Land Claimed: All of the Democratic Republic of the Congo & most of the Republic of the Congo, EXCEPT the departments of Sangha and Cuvette-Ouest
  • Why you want to join: It sounds really interesting and I enjoy nation-building and politicking.
  • Have you read everything concerning Altverse?: Y
  • Do you agree to comply to all rules and policies?: Y
  • Other: None.
I don't support this for now for the main reason of the RoC being included. The reason is that despite a peace treaty being in place, the Second Congolese War is still raging unofficially - the country has failed to stabilise and its currently in civil war. The RoC is for the most part stable being "well off" for a Sub-Saharan African nation thanks to oil and diamond exports (not that the people of the RoC see any of that wealth), and has pretty poor relations with its larger neighbour. If we were talking 40 years ago when the DRC was still Zaire and under Mobutu Sese Seko a merge may take place (I'm sure the west would fund the anti-communist Mobutu invading the communist People's Republic of the Congo for example) but in 2006? Not likely.
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BIPU
April 3, 2015, 4:59 am
Russia (Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic)

  • Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic
  • Real World Countries and Land Claimed: Russia (including Kaliningrad and Crimea).
  • Why you want to join: An earth based Project as Alt Verse cant be played without Russia.
  • Have you read everything concerning Altverse?: Y
  • Do you agree to comply to all rules and policies?: Y
  • Other: We have to talk about some points:
    **Kaliningrad.We have to decide which nation is in control of Kaliningrad. Kaliningrad is a core part of Russia now and I see very difficult to explain how it could be transferred to Germany. The only way I can imagine is a kind of pact (similar to Ribbentrop-Molotov pact) in wich Russia and Germany negotiate how to share control over Eastern Europe. Kaliningrad could be the Price to pay for the silence of Germany when Russia spreads its regime over the Baltic Republics, Bielorussia, Ukrania and some other Eastern nations.
    **Eastern bloc. In a Europe not being a colony of USA (what it is in RL) and with Germany focused on its Empire more than other things, the reality is that it wont be difficult for a powerful Russia to recover political control (+-) over most of the former Eastern bloc.
    **Danguk. We have to explain why Danguk is an independent nation. I have benn Reading the wiki but there is no reference of how they could get independence. I see no problema to write a history to tell that they got independene supported by foreign nations during the "chaos" years after the collapse of Soviet Union.



About the posible friendship with Mexico, I see no way to be friends.... but economy and common enemies could mad possible some approach.
I would give this tentative support. My point on the Eastern Bloc is that it would still collapse in 1989 - bear in mind the USSR was still alive until 1991 so you won't have the German Democratic Republic, the Hungarian People's Republic, the Socialist Republic of Romania, the People's Republic of Poland etc. However its likely that after the Eurozone Crisis and the 2008 Recession a majority of former communist countries (Serbia, Bulgaria, Romania, Moldova, Hungary, etc) could be more Russia friendly.
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Alexander

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April 3, 2015, 5:25 am
Alexander
April 2, 2015, 8:12 pm
United Republic of the Congo

  • Link
  • Real World Countries and Land Claimed: All of the Democratic Republic of the Congo & most of the Republic of the Congo, EXCEPT the departments of Sangha and Cuvette-Ouest
  • Why you want to join: It sounds really interesting and I enjoy nation-building and politicking.
  • Have you read everything concerning Altverse?: Y
  • Do you agree to comply to all rules and policies?: Y
  • Other: None.
I don't support this for now for the main reason of the RoC being included. The reason is that despite a peace treaty being in place, the Second Congolese War is still raging unofficially - the country has failed to stabilise and its currently in civil war. The RoC is for the most part stable being "well off" for a Sub-Saharan African nation thanks to oil and diamond exports (not that the people of the RoC see any of that wealth), and has pretty poor relations with its larger neighbour. If we were talking 40 years ago when the DRC was still Zaire and under Mobutu Sese Seko a merge may take place (I'm sure the west would fund the anti-communist Mobutu invading the communist People's Republic of the Congo for example) but in 2006? Not likely.
I have begun rewriting the history of the URC, being founded in the 1970s with a US-backed invasion of the People's Republic of the Congo by Zaïre.
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Alexander
April 3, 2015, 5:22 pm
Dog of War
April 3, 2015, 5:25 am
Alexander
April 2, 2015, 8:12 pm
United Republic of the Congo

  • Link
  • Real World Countries and Land Claimed: All of the Democratic Republic of the Congo & most of the Republic of the Congo, EXCEPT the departments of Sangha and Cuvette-Ouest
  • Why you want to join: It sounds really interesting and I enjoy nation-building and politicking.
  • Have you read everything concerning Altverse?: Y
  • Do you agree to comply to all rules and policies?: Y
  • Other: None.
I don't support this for now for the main reason of the RoC being included. The reason is that despite a peace treaty being in place, the Second Congolese War is still raging unofficially - the country has failed to stabilise and its currently in civil war. The RoC is for the most part stable being "well off" for a Sub-Saharan African nation thanks to oil and diamond exports (not that the people of the RoC see any of that wealth), and has pretty poor relations with its larger neighbour. If we were talking 40 years ago when the DRC was still Zaire and under Mobutu Sese Seko a merge may take place (I'm sure the west would fund the anti-communist Mobutu invading the communist People's Republic of the Congo for example) but in 2006? Not likely.
I have begun rewriting the history of the URC, being founded in the 1970s with a US-backed invasion of the People's Republic of the Congo by Zaïre.
Excellent. 'll support this much more now.
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Zabuza825

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April 3, 2015, 4:59 am
Russia (Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic)

  • Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic
  • Real World Countries and Land Claimed: Russia (including Kaliningrad and Crimea).
  • Why you want to join: An earth based Project as Alt Verse cant be played without Russia.
  • Have you read everything concerning Altverse?: Y
  • Do you agree to comply to all rules and policies?: Y
  • Other: We have to talk about some points:
    **Kaliningrad.We have to decide which nation is in control of Kaliningrad. Kaliningrad is a core part of Russia now and I see very difficult to explain how it could be transferred to Germany. The only way I can imagine is a kind of pact (similar to Ribbentrop-Molotov pact) in wich Russia and Germany negotiate how to share control over Eastern Europe. Kaliningrad could be the Price to pay for the silence of Germany when Russia spreads its regime over the Baltic Republics, Bielorussia, Ukrania and some other Eastern nations.
    **Eastern bloc. In a Europe not being a colony of USA (what it is in RL) and with Germany focused on its Empire more than other things, the reality is that it wont be difficult for a powerful Russia to recover political control (+-) over most of the former Eastern bloc.
    **Danguk. We have to explain why Danguk is an independent nation. I have benn Reading the wiki but there is no reference of how they could get independence. I see no problema to write a history to tell that they got independene supported by foreign nations during the "chaos" years after the collapse of Soviet Union.



About the posible friendship with Mexico, I see no way to be friends.... but economy and common enemies could mad possible some approach.
Alright, already I have a whole slew of problems with this.

  • Eastern Bloc: You seem to not understand the whole reason why the Eastern Bloc collapsed. It collapsed becaus the people weren't happy with their situation at the time and took it out on their government, many of which were corrupt and ineffective. After the collapse of the Eastern Bloc, some nations moved away from Russia, like Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania. Other nations, like Belarus and Turkmenistan, have remained firm allies of Russia (though in Turkmenistan's case, they've also made sure to stay neutral with the US). I JUST DON'T SEE IT BEING POSSIBLE FOR THE BALTIC STATES. Unlike what you seem to believe, they did NOT gain independence through US intervention, it was decades of being part of a nation THAT THEY NEVER WANTED TO BE PART OF TO BEGIN WITH that built up over time and finally exploded near the end of the Cold War. THEY LEFT THE USSR BECAUSE THEY NEVER WANTED TO BE PART OF THE USSR. The so-called "elections" that turned out results in favor of joining the USSR was rigged by the puppet-governments that Stalin had set up in the area after he invaded them. The USSR FORCED the Baltic States to Join them when they invaded and essentially conquered them. This left a huge sentiment against Russia after the Cold War, and is the entire reason why they did things like join the EU and NATO.
  • Ukraine: I also don't see how we can change Ukraine to make it pro-Russia. This isn't because of IRL political reasons, certainly if we went back to things like the 1990's and changed how history went then we might be able to make it pro-Russia. It's more because we have the Crimea dispute playing a part in the Second Cold War.
  • Former-Soviet nations gaining independence: The fact of the matter is, most of those nations that left the USSR in the years at the end of the Cold War didn't have too much support from the US. The ability to secede from the USSR was in fact written into the Constitution of the Soviet Union (Section III, Chapter 8, Article 72). Nations like Turkmenistan (note that I'm not including Eastern European nations and am more focusing on Central Asian nations here) didn't leave because the US wanted them to leave, in fact their leaders were perfectly content with being in the USSR, it was more due to rising nationalism in their own nations that they decided "well, we don't want to risk a revolt, so we'll invoke Article 72". These are the very same nations that have since maintained close relations with Russia. Danguk could very easily fall into this category.
  • Mexico: You'll need to talk to Justin about that. I've been asking for a logical explanation as to why a Russia that even IRL has huge slews of anti-west propaganda calling the west "fascist" could possibly be friends with an openly-fascist nation since I joined quite a while ago, and I've gotten exactly zero answers.
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I have mostly finished with the history of the United Republic of the Congo. What do you guys think of it?
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Alexander
April 3, 2015, 7:17 pm
I have mostly finished with the history of the United Republic of the Congo. What do you guys think of it?
Just one more thing - its not essential, but part of the reason why Rwanda invaded the DRC was because Mobutu housed militia involved in the Rwandan Genocide that the new Rwandan government had overthrown. May want to add that in. Other then that it looks fine to me.
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I'm just curious, but has the Second German Empire been considered part of Altverse yet? I don't want to add anything pertaining to Altverse until I get completely approved.
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April 3, 2015, 6:46 pm


  • Eastern Bloc: You seem to not understand the whole reason why the Eastern Bloc collapsed. It collapsed becaus the people weren't happy with their situation at the time and took it out on their government, many of which were corrupt and ineffective. After the collapse of the Eastern Bloc, some nations moved away from Russia, like Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania. Other nations, like Belarus and Turkmenistan, have remained firm allies of Russia (though in Turkmenistan's case, they've also made sure to stay neutral with the US). I JUST DON'T SEE IT BEING POSSIBLE FOR THE BALTIC STATES. Unlike what you seem to believe, they did NOT gain independence through US intervention, it was decades of being part of a nation THAT THEY NEVER WANTED TO BE PART OF TO BEGIN WITH that built up over time and finally exploded near the end of the Cold War. THEY LEFT THE USSR BECAUSE THEY NEVER WANTED TO BE PART OF THE USSR. The so-called "elections" that turned out results in favor of joining the USSR was rigged by the puppet-governments that Stalin had set up in the area after he invaded them. The USSR FORCED the Baltic States to Join them when they invaded and essentially conquered them. This left a huge sentiment against Russia after the Cold War, and is the entire reason why they did things like join the EU and NATO.
  • Ukraine: I also don't see how we can change Ukraine to make it pro-Russia. This isn't because of IRL political reasons, certainly if we went back to things like the 1990's and changed how history went then we might be able to make it pro-Russia. It's more because we have the Crimea dispute playing a part in the Second Cold War.
  • Former-Soviet nations gaining independence: The fact of the matter is, most of those nations that left the USSR in the years at the end of the Cold War didn't have too much support from the US. The ability to secede from the USSR was in fact written into the Constitution of the Soviet Union (Section III, Chapter 8, Article 72). Nations like Turkmenistan (note that I'm not including Eastern European nations and am more focusing on Central Asian nations here) didn't leave because the US wanted them to leave, in fact their leaders were perfectly content with being in the USSR, it was more due to rising nationalism in their own nations that they decided "well, we don't want to risk a revolt, so we'll invoke Article 72". These are the very same nations that have since maintained close relations with Russia. Danguk could very easily fall into this category.
  • Mexico: You'll need to talk to Justin about that. I've been asking for a logical explanation as to why a Russia that even IRL has huge slews of anti-west propaganda calling the west "fascist" could possibly be friends with an openly-fascist nation since I joined quite a while ago, and I've gotten exactly zero answers.
*Maybe I dont understand, but what I dont understand is how Hollywood films tell the history. Are you really telling that a médium soviet citizen had lower living standards than what they had in the 90's and even today? A soviet worker had 7 dayly hours of work, a free house, one of the best education system for his children, a good health service and 15 days a year of paid hollydays in the Black Sea. Free museums, free music concerts, free entertaiment, etc. I'm not a communist supporter and communist is far from my thoughts but I'm not going to accept the yankee history as the Bible becouse whay yankee capitalist brought to Russia was poverty and misery for the majority of the population. And now, when Russia is starting to grow and recovering its position they invent and finance a war (like they did in Afganistán creating and funding Al Qaeda or what they did in Siria creating and funding ISIS).
**Do you really think that CIA had nothing to see in the fall of Soviet Unión?
**I agree with you in what you say about the Baltic Republics. Yes, they are not Russia (and I dont want it).
**Ukarine is not pro-Russia? The Eastern half of Ukraina was Russia until the 70s in the Kruschev era. Population are Russian and I remember you that in the last REAL elections in Ukrania the government was totally PRO-RUSSIA. And then, the CIA again foundend nazi parties in Ukraina to start the famous "Maidan" and to carry a coup against the legitimate government. So, without the intervention of CIA, Ukraina could be perfectly pro-Russia.
**Crimea is Russia. Crimea is Russia from the times when Russians died for Crimea when the western nations (England specially) were allied with the Otomans and atacked Crimea. Crimea is a CORE part of Russia. There is no dispute.
***Finally, think that this is "Alt Verse", so thinks here have not to be like IRL. In "Altverse" the USA does not have an Europe full op Pupet states what they have IRL. In "AltVerse" Britannia, Kalmar Unión, and of course the Germanic IMperium has their own political views and maybe they could have different views over Russia than the USA has. We play the fall of Soviet Unión, but after than we can build a new history for Eastern Europe. Maybe people of Eastern Europe changed their governments after the fall of Soviet Unión but at the end of the 90s, a strong Russia could be able to atrack then again. In Alt Verse the history of Europe from the 90s is going very far from IRL, so we could be abe to accept a new Russian bloc in Eastern Europe.
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