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RC drift car setups; share & discuss about setups..
Topic Started: Apr 3 2006, 10:35 AM (1,759 Views)
Nitro_Dude118
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My Settings...

Car - Yokomo GT-4 Nitro

Drive - Belt

Shocks - Adjustable

Damper - Front / 35wt
- Rear / 35wt

Spring - Front / Yellow
- Rear / Brown

Diff - Front / Solid Axle
- Rear / Solid Axle

Height - Front / 5mm
- Rear / 5.5mm

Camber - Front / -2 Deg
- Rear / -2 Deg

Toe - Front / -1 Deg
- Rear / -3 Deg

Droop - Front / 7mm
- Rear / 5mm

Tires - Front / Yokomo Drift Tires (ZERO-ONE 'R')
- Rear / Yokomo Drift Tires (ZERO-ONE 'R')

Engine - Yokomo ZE - RX18 (.18)

Pipe - RD Logics

Drive Ratio - 1st Gear / Pinion - 16T
/ Spur - 48T
- 2nd Gear / Pinion - 19T
/ Spur - 45T

Body Shell - Protoform 350Z

Will post the picture soon... :wave:
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imranss20krew
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my tt01 setup

tyre : pvc/abs
camber: front 0 back 0
toe out: front -1
toe in: back -1
front dampers: 2-holes
back dampers: 3-holes
damper oil: front 500w back 500w
spring: ori tamiya silver springs back & front
motor: 540 silvercan (tamiya ori motor)
spur: 55
pinion: 25
front diff: standard
back diff: standard diff locked with bluetac

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shahrc
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imranss20krew
Oct 2 2006, 01:42 AM
my tt01 setup

tyre : pvc/abs
camber: front 0 back 0
toe out: front -1
toe in: back -1
front dampers: 2-holes
back dampers: 3-holes
damper oil: front 500w back 500w
spring: ori tamiya silver springs back & front
motor: 540 silvercan (tamiya ori motor)
spur: 55
pinion: 25
front diff: standard
back diff: standard diff locked with bluetac

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Good setup. Just wanna ask you something do your silver can motor give you enough tourqe and power to drift with the spur? I used the same motor with std spur, but still feel loosing the end tourqe.
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jino86

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shahrc
Oct 1 2006, 09:14 PM
imranss20krew
Oct 2 2006, 01:42 AM
my tt01 setup

tyre : pvc/abs
camber: front 0 back 0
toe out: front -1
toe in: back -1
front dampers: 2-holes
back dampers: 3-holes
damper oil: front 500w back 500w
spring: ori tamiya silver springs back & front
motor: 540 silvercan (tamiya ori motor)
spur: 55
pinion: 25
front diff: standard
back diff: standard diff locked with bluetac

:terror:

Good setup. Just wanna ask you something do your silver can motor give you enough tourqe and power to drift with the spur? I used the same motor with std spur, but still feel loosing the end tourqe.

Actually my car setup is stock standard out of the box...and using the stock ratio(19p/61s), it doesnt provide the torque that is impressive...after changing it to 25p/55s, man it has more torque and fells better...Advice from imranss20krew at atria meet up as i was complaining to him..

edited: also using silvercan..
Tamiya TT01 Spec-Convert : MOPED ESC : Sports tuned : Sanwa M8 : 1 LaMe Driver : ABS (Akunye Buntut Sliding)

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Ryhme
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For me simple as this.
High Ratio - more Torque
Low Ratio - more Top Speed

Silver Can Motor - example 27t. Range ratio - 4.80 to 6.00.
I used 23t motor stand-up add 2 bearing. 6.9 final drive to get max torque.Motor gila punya panas.




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jino86

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Ryhme
Oct 2 2006, 02:31 AM
For me simple as this.
High Ratio - more Torque
Low Ratio - more Top Speed

Silver Can Motor - example 27t. Range ratio - 4.80 to 6.00.
I used 23t motor stand-up add 2 bearing. 6.9 final drive to get max torque.Motor gila punya panas.

Motor panas ok lagi..jgn sampai ESC masak....lol :P
Tamiya TT01 Spec-Convert : MOPED ESC : Sports tuned : Sanwa M8 : 1 LaMe Driver : ABS (Akunye Buntut Sliding)

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shahrc
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jino86
Oct 2 2006, 10:35 AM
Ryhme
Oct 2 2006, 02:31 AM
For me simple as this.
High Ratio - more Torque
Low Ratio -  more Top Speed

Silver Can Motor - example 27t. Range ratio - 4.80 to 6.00.
I used 23t motor stand-up  add 2 bearing.  6.9 final drive to get max torque.Motor gila punya panas.

Motor panas ok lagi..jgn sampai ESC masak....lol :P

Yeah I know, even SG drifters using this ratio, but the motor is not the std silver can. They are using Tuned Silver can...what ever it does mean :D... how ever just for our knowledge I get this from foreign RC forum, maybe can help us and let us know what are we getting into atleast...

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jino86

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shahrc
Oct 2 2006, 05:01 AM
jino86
Oct 2 2006, 10:35 AM
Ryhme
Oct 2 2006, 02:31 AM
For me simple as this.
High Ratio - more Torque
Low Ratio -  more Top Speed

Silver Can Motor - example 27t. Range ratio - 4.80 to 6.00.
I used 23t motor stand-up  add 2 bearing.  6.9 final drive to get max torque.Motor gila punya panas.

Motor panas ok lagi..jgn sampai ESC masak....lol :P

Yeah I know, even SG drifters using this ratio, but the motor is not the std silver can. They are using Tuned Silver can...what ever it does mean :D... how ever just for our knowledge I get this from foreign RC forum, maybe can help us and let us know what are we getting into atleast...

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Does this ratio chart only meant for silvercan? Coz i'm using a sports tuned motor and can i still follow back this ratio chart? i'm using 25, 55 gear with my silvercan.. can i use this ratio for my sports tuned motor? i'm using 10 turn limit moped ESC
Tamiya TT01 Spec-Convert : MOPED ESC : Sports tuned : Sanwa M8 : 1 LaMe Driver : ABS (Akunye Buntut Sliding)

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shahrc
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In my experience the faster ur motor, the hotter your ESC is; but if you have upgraded your ESC, then it should be ok considered the upgrade also includes with a proper/good heat dissipation since it can support a lower turn motors.

My comparison is only between Tamiya ESC between Std Silver Can and Trinity 2pk motor. The heat that generates from the motor and ESC is almost double.

What ever it is, I think it's better to monitor the heat form time to time..because you will be able to detect any problems that may arise earlier...D
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Ryhme
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Gear ratio base on motor turn. Less turn-high gear / More turn - Low gear. :wacko:

Same ratio should be ok lah. ESC 10turn best lah
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my setting more or less like imran's. gear ratio also same. only dat im using black mabuchi sport tuned n his is silver can. still having hard time keeping up with this bugger.. :angry: :biggrin:

i would like to clear out some doubts..
isnt using low gear ratios (eg.25/55) is better then high ratios? this is cuz i think, less turn is required to drift cuz drifting need more topspeed then torque (correct me if im wrong). we are basically "grip free" compare to tourings. so a very high torque is not required. more low ends means we can drift much more longer ryte..? this means we could play more run time rather then high ratios that would drain the batteries much more faster.. putting aside the lifespan of the motor. as some wouldn mind changing their silvercans rather then getting new batteries i suppose.. my 10 turn esc is doin just fine for 20-30mins of continuous play. im using sport tune mabuchi and 3800 mAh. this is based on my experience.. juz imagine how long u could play with silvercans?

anyway juz sharing...
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Oct 2 2006, 08:58 PM
my setting more or less like imran's. gear ratio also same. only dat im using black mabuchi sport tuned n his is silver can. still having hard time keeping up with this bugger.. :angry: :biggrin:

i would like to clear out some doubts..
isnt using low gear ratios (eg.25/55) is better then high ratios? this is cuz i think, less turn is required to drift cuz drifting need more topspeed then torque (correct me if im wrong). we are basically "grip free" compare to tourings. so a very high torque is not required. more low ends means we can drift much more longer ryte..? this means we could play more run time rather then high ratios that would drain the batteries much more faster.. putting aside the lifespan of the motor. as some wouldn mind changing their silvercans rather then getting new batteries i suppose.. my 10 turn esc is doin just fine for 20-30mins of continuous play. im using sport tune mabuchi and 3800 mAh. this is based on my experience.. juz imagine how long u could play with silvercans?

anyway juz sharing...

It is more to driving style actually. Some like to drift Natural Apsiration type meaning less torque with high rpm. The only problem I think if the track is small then it is much more difficult to drift with ones haviing high torque.

I'm using std silver can and my torque and rpm are not high enough, this means I have to apply more brakes to get the rear end slides more. If you are using high torque motor, what you have to do is jerk the throttle to get the rear end slides afterwhich then by controlling the power would get you the decent drift.

As I mention before with my silvercan and std 19/61 gears it would last me 45 mins with 3300 mah pack. But having a tight corner on a tarmac with poly pipe is very tactful. Using my trinity 2pk with the same setting could only lasts me 25 mins (maybe my motor have some problems).

To me higher torque is the best because whenever you need the power...just punch and your car go side ways.. :rolleyes:
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Ryhme
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FoarGeez
Oct 2 2006, 09:58 PM
my setting more or less like imran's. gear ratio also same. only dat im using black mabuchi sport tuned n his is silver can. still having hard time keeping up with this bugger.. :angry: :biggrin:

i would like to clear out some doubts..
isnt using low gear ratios (eg.25/55) is better then high ratios? this is cuz i think, less turn is required to drift cuz drifting need more topspeed then torque (correct me if im wrong). we are basically "grip free" compare to tourings. so a very high torque is not required. more low ends means we can drift much more longer ryte..? this means we could play more run time rather then high ratios that would drain the batteries much more faster.. putting aside the lifespan of the motor. as some wouldn mind changing their silvercans rather then getting new batteries i suppose.. my 10 turn esc is doin just fine for 20-30mins of continuous play. im using sport tune mabuchi and 3800 mAh. this is based on my experience.. juz imagine how long u could play with silvercans?

anyway juz sharing...

25/55 - final ratio is 5.72.
If u 1 "free grip" try used 64 pitch spur / pinion. Less torque for shaft is better.

For me coz i using old belt car. I need to throw alot B4 corner.So need ton of torque. Biasa lah kereta buruk. :biggrin:


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zerodegree
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wow..these are great tips. thanks. so ok..saya akan try these setup semua, basically rear toe in 3 deg + 1 deg camber dan front 0 degree + 0.5 deg camber. Ni pretty much standard setup CGM dan TC3 saya kalau race. Saya akan cuba untuk drift pulak.

Ride height saya tak penting sangat tapi droop saya akan guna 21mm-23mm (ukur dari mid screw wheel nut ke lantai), saya tak guna droop gauge. Ni satu good setup tip. Make sure semua 4-4 tire sama ukuran. Ukur guna pembaris je. saya selalu guna 23mm standard. Make sure ukur droop dulu sebelum buat setup lain. hehe...kalau ada tip saya ni salah, tolong le perbetulkan. Saya pun pakai experiment sendiri je.bukanya top driver pun.

shock setting: saya akan revert ke standard Yokomo setting dulu, 40wt semua sama. spring saya guna Rayspeed. spring yokomo pun ada. Sapa2 boleh tlg share nak pakai spring mana untk drift ?
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oh...and motor pula. saya akan guna tamiya Tz 23t. Ratio: 5.7.(mcm bro Rhyme ckp) . esc saya Novak Cyclone TC buruk..tapi tahan lasak.

haa..satu lagi..korang guna esc reverse ke? drift ada pakai brake ke? brp byk setting drag brake pada esc ?boleh share?
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